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Post by stephen on Jan 8, 2021 15:31:40 GMT
The problem might not be turning the film off part way through, but turning it on to begin with. Well this aged terribly. Turns out Pieces of a Woman is doing very well on Netflix. I trust Netflix numbers about as far as I can throw an elephant, but after watching it last night, yeah, you'd think initial reviewers were talking about a Lars von Trier film with the talk of it being too grim and alienating. It's not an easy watch for sure, but those discussions have been overblown. Kirby's biggest problem now is that what critical momentum she had post-Venice has been usurped by the likes of Carey Mulligan, a prior nominee whose film is gaining traction in more categories than just her (I seriously think Promising Young Woman could be our Original Screenplay winner).
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 8, 2021 15:32:08 GMT
What horror contender even is there?? I loved Imogen Poots in Vivarium, Elisabeth Moss in The Invisible Man, Andrea Riseborough in Possessor and Haley Bennett in Swallow. And for other options more outside the Academy's comfort zone, you have Maxine Peake for Fanny Lye Deliver’d, Moss or Odessa Young in Shirley, Evan Rachel Wood in Kajillionaire, Alison Brie in Horse Girl, Aubrey Plaza in Black Bear, Noémie Merlant in Jumbo and Julia Garner in The Assistant.Ah ok, I thought you meant there was a genuine horror contender in the running, like Lupita, Toni or Emily recently.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 8, 2021 15:33:47 GMT
Well this aged terribly. Turns out Pieces of a Woman is doing very well on Netflix. I trust Netflix numbers about as far as I can throw an elephant, but after watching it last night, yeah, you'd think initial reviewers were talking about a Lars von Trier film with the talk of it being too grim and alienating. It's not an easy watch for sure, but those discussions have been overblown. Kirby's biggest problem now is that what critical momentum she had post-Venice has been usurped by the likes of Carey Mulligan, a prior nominee whose film is gaining traction in more categories than just her (I seriously think Promising Young Woman could be our Original Screenplay winner).From your mouth to God's ears.
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Post by cheesecake on Jan 8, 2021 15:34:39 GMT
I loved Imogen Poots in Vivarium, Elisabeth Moss in The Invisible Man, Andrea Riseborough in Possessor and Haley Bennett in Swallow. And for other options more outside the Academy's comfort zone, you have Maxine Peake for Fanny Lye Deliver’d, Moss or Odessa Young in Shirley, Evan Rachel Wood in Kajillionaire, Alison Brie in Horse Girl, Aubrey Plaza in Black Bear, Noémie Merlant in Jumbo and Julia Garner in The Assistant.Ah ok, I thought you meant there was a genuine horror contender in the running, like Lupita, Toni or Emily recently. Ah, fair enough. I love how close Nyong'o got, but performances like that get stuck in genre jail right out of the gate.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 8, 2021 15:40:25 GMT
What horror contender even is there?? I loved Imogen Poots in Vivarium, Elisabeth Moss in The Invisible Man, Andrea Riseborough in Possessor and Haley Bennett in Swallow. ............and Morffyd Clark & Jennifer Ehle in Saint Maud ........... Azura Skye in The Swerve too!
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Post by cheesecake on Jan 8, 2021 15:48:31 GMT
I loved Imogen Poots in Vivarium, Elisabeth Moss in The Invisible Man, Andrea Riseborough in Possessor and Haley Bennett in Swallow. ............and Morffyd Clark & Jennifer Ehle in Saint Maud ........... Azura Skye in The Swerve too! Saint Maud? SAINT MAUD? I feel like I've been waiting two years to see this movie.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 8, 2021 17:16:13 GMT
Having seen both Nomadland and Ma Rainy, I woulkdn't accept a Davis win... She's good and all, but: A) McDormand is phenomenal B) She's actually supporting... So imo her performance wasn't better than McD's and her win would be another category fraud. Thank you. ^ Pretty much this exactly and she's not the best performance in the film which always hurts Best Actor/Actress contenders......not that you can't overcome that but it's a barrier to be overcome. Her performance also isn't better than Mulligan's who dominates every single scene of her movie........ Haven't seen Mulligan yet.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 8, 2021 17:17:36 GMT
Streep needs no buzz to get a nomination! She kinda does. Otherwise she'd have been nominated for Little Women (which had buzz, just not for her), The Laundromat, Mary Poppins Returns, Suffragete, Ricki And The Flash and more. Somehow I have the feeling she HAS been nominated for all these films!!
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Post by michael128 on Jan 8, 2021 22:03:03 GMT
Could Loren sneak in based on her age? This pandemic has showed just how much we mistreat our elders and I think this could benefit her.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 17, 2021 21:11:39 GMT
I’m starting to think that not only is Zendaya have a great chance for a nom, but she is a dark horse to pull off an upset win. I can see her easily pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan. Not predicting her but she can build up the perfect momentum at the right time and have the “new it-girl” trajectory.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 17, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
I’m starting to think that not only is Zendaya have a great chance for a nom, but she is a dark horse to pull off an upset win. I can see her easily pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan. Not predicting her but she can build up the perfect momentum at the right time and have the “new it-girl” trajectory. Can't see Zendaya winning over Davis with such a transformative performance. But I definitely see her pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 17, 2021 21:28:08 GMT
I’m starting to think that not only is Zendaya have a great chance for a nom, but she is a dark horse to pull off an upset win. I can see her easily pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan. Not predicting her but she can build up the perfect momentum at the right time and have the “new it-girl” trajectory. It's very difficult for a "newcomer" to win Best Actress. And it's not like she's "undeniable" with the critics.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 17, 2021 21:31:14 GMT
Having seen both Nomadland and Ma Rainy, I woulkdn't accept a Davis win... She's good and all, but: A) McDormand is phenomenal B) She's actually supporting... So imo her performance wasn't better than McD's and her win would be another category fraud. Thank you. AMPAS is not going to give McDormand a 3rd Best Actress Oscar.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 17, 2021 21:51:49 GMT
McDormand and Mulligan are going to win precursors - that matters - both dominate their films, don't share the screen with anyone else, give performances that the female voting body is just going to love too. You can't say that about Davis as much (though she could still win, but she shouldn't) or Zendaya who would be at best in the 5th spot behind Kirby and certainly behind Mulligan who is in THE obvious spot to pull an upset win if anybody does. Lots of overthinking this category......
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 17, 2021 21:53:20 GMT
I’m starting to think that not only is Zendaya have a great chance for a nom, but she is a dark horse to pull off an upset win. I can see her easily pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan. Not predicting her but she can build up the perfect momentum at the right time and have the “new it-girl” trajectory. Can't see Zendaya winning over Davis with such a transformative performance. But I definitely see her pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan.I don’t think it’s likely but it wouldn’t surprise me if the race ended up Davis vs Zendaya. Really depends on if the Academy embraces McDormand for a 3rd so quickly after her 2nd or not.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 17, 2021 21:53:41 GMT
Personally I’m rooting for Mulligan though.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 17, 2021 21:55:48 GMT
Having seen both Nomadland and Ma Rainy, I woulkdn't accept a Davis win... She's good and all, but: A) McDormand is phenomenal B) She's actually supporting... So imo her performance wasn't better than McD's and her win would be another category fraud. Thank you. AMPAS is not going to give McDormand a 3rd Best Actress Oscar. Especially for a performance where her own director is saying she is just playing a version of herself. It's a critics performance. Not the type of thing they give out 3rd Oscars for.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 17, 2021 22:02:33 GMT
Having seen both Nomadland and Ma Rainy, I woulkdn't accept a Davis win... She's good and all, but: A) McDormand is phenomenal B) She's actually supporting... So imo her performance wasn't better than McD's and her win would be another category fraud. Thank you. AMPAS is not going to give McDormand a 3rd Best Actress Oscar. There is always Mulligan whose film I haven't seen yet. No matter who wins, my opinion is Davis is supporting and didn't give a better performance than McDormand.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 17, 2021 22:06:18 GMT
AMPAS is not going to give McDormand a 3rd Best Actress Oscar. There is always Mulligan whose film I haven't seen yet. No matter who wins, my opinion is Davis is supporting and didn't give a better performance than McDormand. "Better," is subjective, but what isn't subjective is that Davis gave a faaaaaaaar more transformational performance than McDormand. When actors start having their say, that will probably make a big difference into the percieved level of difficulty attached to each performance.
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Post by quetee on Jan 17, 2021 22:07:36 GMT
Right now, I'm predicting:
Viola Carey Frances Elizabeth Zenyada
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 17, 2021 22:08:41 GMT
AMPAS is not going to give McDormand a 3rd Best Actress Oscar. There is always Mulligan whose film I haven't seen yet. No matter who wins, my opinion is Davis is supporting and didn't give a better performance than McDormand. McDormand is essentially playing a version of herself - which she has done many times before.
Davis has the narrative. She is playing against type. She will be the first African American actress to win 2 acting Oscars. And we know she will give a great speech honoring Chadwick Boseman.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 17, 2021 22:13:30 GMT
There is always Mulligan whose film I haven't seen yet. No matter who wins, my opinion is Davis is supporting and didn't give a better performance than McDormand. "Better is subjective", but what isn't subjective is that Davis gave a faaaaaaaar more transformational performance than McDormand. When actors start having their say, that will probably make a big difference into the percieved level of difficulty attached to each performance. Starring in an indie film, living as a nomad for months and interacting with no actors certainly has its own difficulty... Actually, carrying the whole movie in her shoulders, something Davis doesn't do in MRBB.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 17, 2021 22:15:32 GMT
And we know she will give a great speech honoring Chadwick Boseman. [/p][/quote] Not a real reason for giving her an Oscar, right?
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Post by morton on Jan 17, 2021 22:18:33 GMT
I’m starting to think that not only is Zendaya have a great chance for a nom, but she is a dark horse to pull off an upset win. I can see her easily pulling ahead of Kirby/Mulligan. Not predicting her but she can build up the perfect momentum at the right time and have the “new it-girl” trajectory. I agree, but I think it’s inevitable Davis wins because I think Netflix waited too late to release Malcolm & Marie. It did help it get a lot of the late newcomer buzz, but at the expense of it competing for critic awards that the actors might have been able to win, at least for Zendaya. Still with a long time to go still, maybe we’ll actually have some surprises happen. In the Supporting categories, I feel a sense of inevitability too with who wins, but I’m hoping that both categories end up having a different winner at each awards show.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 17, 2021 22:19:00 GMT
"Better is subjective", but what isn't subjective is that Davis gave a faaaaaaaar more transformational performance than McDormand. When actors start having their say, that will probably make a big difference into the percieved level of difficulty attached to each performance. Starring in an indie film, living as a nomad for months and interacting with no actors certainly has its own difficulty... Actually, carrying the whole movie in her shoulders, something Davis doesn't do in MRBB. Yeah, that's not how actors evaluate performances on a technical level. As her own director said, McDormand is more or less playing a version of herself. How technically impressive actors will find that is highly questionable. Enough for a nod? Sure. For a 3rd win? Unlikely, imho. Critics often love those kind of performances from actresses, especially in indie films. But it's more often the flashy and/or transformational work from people like Davis that win the Oscar. I think McDormand stands a better chance of winning another Oscar for The Tragedy Of Macbeth. By virtue of being Shakespeare, she cannot be dinged with the "playing herself" card.
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