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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 19:38:25 GMT
Going with: Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holliday Vanessa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman Frances McDormand, Nomadland Kate Winslet, Ammonite
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Post by DanQuixote on Nov 16, 2020 20:04:20 GMT
01. Viola Davis, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom 02. Frances McDormand, Nomadland 03. Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holliday 04. Kate Winslet, Ammonite 05. Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead 06. Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman 07. Vanessa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman 08. Meryl Streep, The Prom 09. Elisabeth Moss, The Invisible Man 10. Sidney Flanigan, Never Rarely Sometimes Always
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Post by speeders on Nov 16, 2020 22:18:50 GMT
Viola Davis, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom Frances McDormand, Nomadland Vanessa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holliday Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead
HM: Kate Winslet, Ammonite Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 17, 2020 1:13:22 GMT
Davis Day Kirby McDormand Mulligan
Streep Winslet Loren
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Post by michael128 on Nov 17, 2020 14:25:32 GMT
Could we see 3 black actresses nominated this year? (Davis, Day, and Knowles-Carter).
Would be historic.
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 18, 2020 22:48:56 GMT
deadline.com/2020/11/oscars-netflix-zendaya-shakes-actress-race-1234618125/Pete Hammond on the stacked Actress race this year. Apparently Streep is "terrific" in The Prom? and he really liked Blunt/ Wild Mountain Thyme that got really bad post-trailer jeers. I think the youngs - Andra Day, Carey Mulligan, maybe Zendaya now - are gonna be the most talked about and take the front spots. Then last two spots Fran and Viola Davis an those are my predix as-of-now.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 18, 2020 23:10:43 GMT
Hammond tends to like everything, so his praise always needs to come with the caveat that he's not the most discriminating of pundits (the fact that he's still including Amy Adams, who has recived some of her worst ever reviews for Hillbilly Elegy (a film that is more likely to be nominated for multiple Razzies) , as if it would be some sort of Sophie's Choice if Netflix had to decide not to campaign her is kind of hilarious to me). So yeah, Hammond gonna Hammond It's not an especially stacked race in how I would view the term "stacked". There are options of course (outside the clear top 2 of Davis and McDormand), but most of them are solid performances in films people don't really care about, which makes it a weak year for the category. They basically need to find 3 spots to fill up the category.
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Post by speeders on Nov 18, 2020 23:17:01 GMT
deadline.com/2020/11/oscars-netflix-zendaya-shakes-actress-race-1234618125/Pete Hammond on the stacked Actress race this year. Apparently Streep is "terrific" in The Prom? and he really liked Blunt/ Wild Mountain Thyme that got really bad post-trailer jeers. I think the youngs - Andra Day, Carey Mulligan, maybe Zendaya now - are gonna be the most talked about and take the front spots. Then last two spots Fran and Viola Davis an those are my predix as-of-now. Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I agree that McDormand and Davis are locked and you make a point that it's likely the younger actresses will dominate the discussion, but I absolutely think Kirby is one of them. Winslet seemed to back into contention in the last week but I doubt she will be able to hold onto momentum for so long now with so many flashier contenders arriving. Pfeiffer chances, already small, are also diminishing. Netflix might as well start campaigning Loren in supporting now for an easy nom... Hammond I'll take with a grain of salt though.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 18, 2020 23:26:11 GMT
deadline.com/2020/11/oscars-netflix-zendaya-shakes-actress-race-1234618125/Pete Hammond on the stacked Actress race this year. Apparently Streep is "terrific" in The Prom? and he really liked Blunt/ Wild Mountain Thyme that got really bad post-trailer jeers. I think the youngs - Andra Day, Carey Mulligan, maybe Zendaya now - are gonna be the most talked about and take the front spots. Then last two spots Fran and Viola Davis an those are my predix as-of-now. Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I agree that McDormand and Davis are locked and you make a point that it's likely the younger actresses will dominate the discussion, but I absolutely think Kirby is one of them. Winslet seemed to back into contention in the last week but I doubt she will be able to hold onto momentum for so long now with so many flashier contenders arriving. Pfeiffer chances, already small, are also diminishing. Netflix might as well start campaigning Loren in supporting now for an easy nom... Hammond I'll take with a grain of salt though. Yeah, I'd definitely have Kirby ahead of Mulligan. Kirby was really helped by her Volpi Cup win, Netflix buying her film, and that Ellen Burstyn may also be a viable supporting actress nomination for her movie. Mulligan just hasn't been able to connect with Oscar voters since An Education, and this just looks like another bid likely to fail for her, as there isn't much interest in the film beyond her performance. I feel like Mulligan needs a lot of help to get nominated again at this stage of her career. By itself, for whatever reason, her work does not excite voters, despite critics praising her pretty consistently.
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 18, 2020 23:28:36 GMT
deadline.com/2020/11/oscars-netflix-zendaya-shakes-actress-race-1234618125/Pete Hammond on the stacked Actress race this year. Apparently Streep is "terrific" in The Prom? and he really liked Blunt/ Wild Mountain Thyme that got really bad post-trailer jeers. I think the youngs - Andra Day, Carey Mulligan, maybe Zendaya now - are gonna be the most talked about and take the front spots. Then last two spots Fran and Viola Davis an those are my predix as-of-now. Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I think it may be too miserable and small for the Oscars - reminds me of Hungry Hearts w/ Adam Driver. Trailer didn't impress me and I think Netflix will push their other buys. Though I'm really rooting for Ellen Burstyn in supporting - some reviews say she has the best scenes.
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Post by speeders on Nov 18, 2020 23:59:47 GMT
Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I think it may be too miserable and small for the Oscars - reminds me of Hungry Hearts w/ Adam Driver. Trailer didn't impress me and I think Netflix will push their other buys. Though I'm really rooting for Ellen Burstyn in supporting - some reviews say she has the best scenes. I have faith in both Kirby and Burstyn and think it works in their favor that they're both in the same film, as opposed to those that are the sole acting contenders in their films. Then again, that doesn't seem to have worked for Ammonite, so we'll see.
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Post by morton on Nov 19, 2020 0:12:57 GMT
Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I agree that McDormand and Davis are locked and you make a point that it's likely the younger actresses will dominate the discussion, but I absolutely think Kirby is one of them. Winslet seemed to back into contention in the last week but I doubt she will be able to hold onto momentum for so long now with so many flashier contenders arriving. Pfeiffer chances, already small, are also diminishing. Netflix might as well start campaigning Loren in supporting now for an easy nom... Hammond I'll take with a grain of salt though. Yeah, I'd definitely have Kirby ahead of Mulligan. Kirby was really helped by her Volpi Cup win, Netflix buying her film, and that Ellen Burstyn may also be a viable supporting actress nomination for her movie. Mulligan just hasn't been able to connect with Oscar voters since An Education, and this just looks like another bid likely to fail for her, as there isn't much interest in the film beyond her performance. I feel like Mulligan needs a lot of help to get nominated again at this stage of her career. By itself, for whatever reason, her work does not excite voters, despite critics praising her pretty consistently. All of this. Plus, what I’ve read about the ending makes me have doubts that Mulligan will get a second Oscar nomination even in this bizarre year. I think she needs to be in a BP nominated film to get recognized again. Maybe if she was able to win the trifecta, (which isn’t going to happen this year anyways), but she didn’t even get any award traction at all for Wildfire despite getting lots of praise for that too. Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I think it may be too miserable and small for the Oscars - reminds me of Hungry Hearts w/ Adam Driver. Trailer didn't impress me and I think Netflix will push their other buys. Though I'm really rooting for Ellen Burstyn in supporting - some reviews say she has the best scenes. Call me crazy, but I’m on the Zendaya train, at least to the reviews come out, lol. She’s an “It” girl, has momentum, and I think it must be a great sign that Netflix is confident in it. Andra Day may have the baitier role, but I’m unsure about her winning because she’s never acted before. That could be her narrative, but if she seems reluctant to act again, that might work against her. Plus, while she has the newcomer narrative, compared to Zendaya’s potential “It” girl narrative I think Zendaya’s potential narrative would be stronger. It’s just difficult to know how actors are going to campaign this year. Without traditional campaigning, Day could be at a disadvantage because she’s not as known as someone like Zendaya. Also I could be wrong about this, but from what I’ve seen Zendaya has more of a following on social media, and has more of a presence on there, and something like that might help tip the scales in her favor.
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Post by futuretrunks on Nov 19, 2020 1:15:11 GMT
I hope Winslet makes it just to enrage the haters.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 19, 2020 1:44:39 GMT
Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I think it may be too miserable and small for the Oscars - reminds me of Hungry Hearts w/ Adam Driver. Trailer didn't impress me and I think Netflix will push their other buys. Though I'm really rooting for Ellen Burstyn in supporting - some reviews say she has the best scenes. I mean I'm sure you already know this, but you not being impressed by the trailer means jack shit. Regardless of whether Netflix do end up actively pushing the film or not, Kirby has a strong enough performance that it doesn't really matter. I can definitely see her taking one of the 'Big 3' critics awards and I feel she is a shoe in for BAFTA and SAG noms. Plus, I feel that we can't overlook the fact that she won the Volpi.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 19, 2020 1:47:54 GMT
deadline.com/2020/11/oscars-netflix-zendaya-shakes-actress-race-1234618125/Pete Hammond on the stacked Actress race this year. Apparently Streep is "terrific" in The Prom? and he really liked Blunt/ Wild Mountain Thyme that got really bad post-trailer jeers. I think the youngs - Andra Day, Carey Mulligan, maybe Zendaya now - are gonna be the most talked about and take the front spots. Then last two spots Fran and Viola Davis an those are my predix as-of-now. Leaving Kirby out on purpose? I agree that McDormand and Davis are locked and you make a point that it's likely the younger actresses will dominate the discussion, but I absolutely think Kirby is one of them. Winslet seemed to back into contention in the last week but I doubt she will be able to hold onto momentum for so long now with so many flashier contenders arriving. Pfeiffer chances, already small, are also diminishing. Netflix might as well start campaigning Loren in supporting now for an easy nom...Hammond I'll take with a grain of salt though. I'm actually surprised they're not doing that, Netflix has way too many other contenders in this category and she only has like half an hour of screen time.
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 19, 2020 2:17:08 GMT
I think it may be too miserable and small for the Oscars - reminds me of Hungry Hearts w/ Adam Driver. Trailer didn't impress me and I think Netflix will push their other buys. Though I'm really rooting for Ellen Burstyn in supporting - some reviews say she has the best scenes. I mean I'm sure you already know this, but you not being impressed by the trailer means jack shit. Regardless of whether Netflix do end up actively pushing the film or not, Kirby has a strong enough performance that it doesn't really matter. I can definitely see her taking one of the 'Big 3' critics awards and I feel she is a shoe in for BAFTA and SAG noms. Plus, I feel that we can't overlook the fact that she won the Volpi. Next time I'll trim the opinion-fat off my post. Just for you. Anyway, I forgot she won the Volpi. That looks good....and I probably woulda had her in my predix if it wasn't for the Zendaya news and that I think more people will circle Mulligan, the only horse for Focus and not that it matters but 92% RT right now to Pieces' 80% - both with like 50 critics. I mention that bc Pieces should look better w/ critics. It isn't a movie viewers/voters will urge others to see. It seems like James White to me - some buzz and critics awards, that's it.
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Post by Savager on Nov 19, 2020 2:44:23 GMT
Davis Day Kirby McDormand Mulligan
Zendaya Streep Winslet Loren
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 19, 2020 3:04:27 GMT
I mean I'm sure you already know this, but you not being impressed by the trailer means jack shit. Regardless of whether Netflix do end up actively pushing the film or not, Kirby has a strong enough performance that it doesn't really matter. I can definitely see her taking one of the 'Big 3' critics awards and I feel she is a shoe in for BAFTA and SAG noms. Plus, I feel that we can't overlook the fact that she won the Volpi. Next time I'll trim the opinion-fat off my post. Just for you. Anyway, I forgot she won the Volpi. That looks good....and I probably woulda had her in my predix if it wasn't for the Zendaya news and that I think more people will circle Mulligan, the only horse for Focus and not that it matters but 92% RT right now to Pieces' 80% - both with like 50 critics. I mention that bc Pieces should look better w/ critics. It isn't a movie viewers/voters will urge others to see. It seems like James White to me - some buzz and critics awards, that's it. Awww, thank you You make some valid points and it'll be interesting to see how things shake out, but for now I'm still firmly on the Kirby train. P.s. I'm predicting Mulligan too.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 20, 2020 4:27:31 GMT
I actually think Zendaya entering the face hurts Kirby more than it does anyone else.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Nov 20, 2020 14:41:07 GMT
Right now I’m guessing
Davis McDormand Winslet Streep
With the last slot a toss up between Kirby, Day, and Zendaya.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 20, 2020 16:20:44 GMT
Right now I’m guessing Davis McDormand Winslet Streep With the last slot a toss up between Kirby, Day, and Zendaya. I would be utterly shocked if both Winslet and Streep got in, one of them at best, but even that is beginning to look a bit shaky. Ammonite feels like such an afterthought and I'm not sure if Streep will be able to escape the Ryan Murphy of it all. I mean listen to this atrocity: The more and more reactions we get to Promising Young Woman, the more and more confident I feel about Mulligan's chances.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Nov 20, 2020 16:36:52 GMT
Right now I’m guessing Davis McDormand Winslet Streep With the last slot a toss up between Kirby, Day, and Zendaya. I would be utterly shocked if both Winslet and Streep got in, one of them at best, but even that is beginning to look a bit shaky. Ammonite feels like such an afterthought and I'm not sure if Streep will be able to escape the Ryan Murphy of it all. I mean listen to this atrocity: The more and more reactions we get to Promising Young Woman, the more and more confident I feel about Mulligan's chances. I’m rooting for a Mulligan nom and PYW is one of my most anticipated films to see this year so hopefully you’re right. I’m just not feeling it as of now.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 20, 2020 16:54:12 GMT
I would be utterly shocked if both Winslet and Streep got in, one of them at best, but even that is beginning to look a bit shaky. Ammonite feels like such an afterthought and I'm not sure if Streep will be able to escape the Ryan Murphy of it all. I mean listen to this atrocity: The more and more reactions we get to Promising Young Woman, the more and more confident I feel about Mulligan's chances. I’m rooting for a Mulligan nom and PYW is one of my most anticipated films to see this year so hopefully you’re right. I’m just not feeling it as of now. I think Mulligan is helped by the fact that her film has been getting a lot of VERY enthusiastic notices over the last few days, it will be Focus' #1 film, she could very easily win the Comedy Globe (I've heard it will go comedy) and she will have the British bloc on her side. It's also a very showy role that should appeal to the 'basics' of the Academy and I can see the performance being something that SAG eats up. Still sticking with: McDormand, Davis, Day, Kirby and Mulligan for now.
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Post by stephen on Nov 20, 2020 16:58:38 GMT
Still sticking with: McDormand, Davis, Day, Kirby and Mulligan for now. This is what I'm thinking. I can see Day getting swapped out with someone like Winslet at BAFTA, but as long as The U.S. vs. Billie Holiday actually releases on time, I think that's our five. On a side-note: I'm hoping that Netflix wises up and realizes that with Hillbilly Elegy getting flayed, they shift Sophia Loren to supporting to take advantage of the thin category.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 20, 2020 17:07:45 GMT
Still sticking with: McDormand, Davis, Day, Kirby and Mulligan for now. This is what I'm thinking. I can see Day getting swapped out with someone like Winslet at BAFTA, but as long as The U.S. vs. Billie Holiday actually releases on time, I think that's our five. On a side-note: I'm hoping that Netflix wises up and realizes that with Hillbilly Elegy getting flayed, they shift Sophia Loren to supporting to take advantage of the thin category.It would make so much sense on a number of different levels but I just have this feeling that they aren't going to budge.
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