erickeitel
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Post by erickeitel on Jan 11, 2020 20:43:28 GMT
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jan 11, 2020 21:03:24 GMT
Entitled bitch.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 12, 2020 1:23:24 GMT
I mean they invited her previous to the nominations being announced and she said she’d give them an answer after they were. Sounds more like sour grapes rather than a legitimate gripe of racist dismission.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 12, 2020 1:29:44 GMT
She won the BAFTA Rising Star last year.
Yup, sounds like sour grapes because she was snubbed - for a film that has been compared to a Lifetime movie.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 12, 2020 1:33:36 GMT
1. She sucks.
2. Her movie sucks.
2a. Of course there are other movies that suck that are nominated, but the fewer the better.
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 1:46:04 GMT
LOL, like she would have performed if Lopez and Nyong'o were nominated at BAFTA. This is just disingenuous at best and entitlement at worst.
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Post by stephen on Jan 12, 2020 1:47:27 GMT
She won the BAFTA Rising Star last year. Yup, sounds like sour grapes because she was snubbed - for a film that has been compared to a Lifetime movie. Did she? I thought Letitia Wright did. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 12, 2020 2:29:02 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 12, 2020 3:08:01 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look. The statements her and her team made aren’t good looks either. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2020 3:20:56 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look.  If Rosa Parks was around today, you damn well know some people would be calling her a lazy, uppity bitch who should be grateful to sit anywhere on the bus. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2020 3:23:41 GMT
She won the BAFTA Rising Star last year. Yup, sounds like sour grapes because she was snubbed - for a film that has been compared to a Lifetime movie. Did she? I thought Letitia Wright did. did win the Rising Star Award. It's misinformation to say Erivo did. |
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Post by ibbi on Jan 12, 2020 3:40:09 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look. What known issues do BAFTA have? I mean they don't share the United States hard on with Denzel and Morgan Freeman for some reason, but they've been nominating and awarding people of every colour under the sun from the 1950s to the 2010s. |
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 3:52:24 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look. Nobody is disparaging her for not performing. It's a free country and she doesn't have to do anything she's not comfortable doing. It's clear that she was only going to perform if she got nominated (which is why she was going to wait until nominations were announced to let them know if she would), so to now make it a race issue is disingenuous. She's mad she wasn't nominated and wouldn't have performed even if Lopez and Nyong'o were nominated. It has nothing to do with BAFTA's "diversity issues" (which I haven't seen anyone actually present any evidence that they exist). |
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 3:55:58 GMT
What known issues do BAFTA have? I mean they don't share the United States hard on with Denzel and Morgan Freeman for some reason, but they've been nominating and awarding people of every colour under the sun from the 1950s to the 2010s. Yep. For instance, they gave Sidney Poitier 6 nominations compared to the Academy's 2. Jamie Foxx, Forest Whitaker, and Chiwetel Ejiofor won Best Lead Actor just this century. When people get offended anytime no non-whites are nominated, it's basically asking for a quota system (which is what would actually be racist). |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2020 4:04:42 GMT
Disparaging a woman of color for deciding not to perform for an awards body that has known issues with diversity isn't a good look. What known issues do BAFTA have? I mean they don't share the United States hard on with Denzel and Morgan Freeman for some reason, but they've been nominating and awarding people of every colour under the sun from the 1950s to the 2010s. They've had diversity issues for years, have acknowledged it and taken some steps to try and correct it, just not enough. It's also about a general lack acknowledgment of British films from filmmakers of color, which has been a long running complaint for years. One of the biggest critical and box offices local British success this season within the UK was a movie called Blue Story. Black director, all-black cast. Completely shut out from nominations meant to support British industry talent as well. As were other British films from filmmakers of color like The Last Tree and The Boy Who Harnessed The Wind. Critically acclaimed British indies from filmmakers of color routinely get overlooked, which is an even bigger issue (but all white actors getting nominated is the sexier, headline grabbing story). Strange that BAFTA themselves admit they have a problem, yet some people are bending over backwards to tell BAFTA things are A-ok. It's a deep rooted issue. www.bafta.org/media-centre/press-releases/new-diversity-requirement-film-awards |
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 4:07:01 GMT
They've had diversity issues for years, have acknowledged it and taken some steps to try and correct it, just not enough. It's also about a general lack acknowledgment of British films from filmmakers of color, which has been a long running complaint for years. One of the biggest critical and box offices success this season on the UK was a movie called Blue Story. Black director, all-black cast. Completely shut out from nominations meant to support British industry talent as well. Critically acclaimed British indies from filmmakers of color routinely get overlooked. Strange that BAFTA themselves admit they have a problem, yet some people are bending over backwards to tell BAFTA things are A-ok. It's a deep rooted issue. www.bafta.org/media-centre/press-releases/new-diversity-requirement-film-awardsStrange how affirmative action is now seen as admission of racism The Academy was called racist in 2016 too, because #OscarsSoWhite. I posted facts proving how that wasn't the case. Just because people are morons and call everything and everybody racist doesn't make it true. Cough up evidence, or shut up. |
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Post by MoonShadow on Jan 12, 2020 4:09:25 GMT
This vile woman makes me sick!  |
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Post by Sharbs on Jan 12, 2020 4:12:11 GMT
y'all have super low standards of what offends you.
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 4:16:02 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2020 4:22:50 GMT
^^^^
So now I have to disagree with Erivo on every single issue going forward because I've criticised her in the past? You are crazy. These are seperate issues. I still think she's said some dumb things in the past, but it's her right not to be a performing seal for BAFTA if she chooses not to be.
Stop trying to derail every thread with this nonsense. Everyone is sick of it.
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 4:26:51 GMT
^^^^ So now I have to disagree with Erivo on any issue going forward because I've criticised her in the past? You are crazy. These are seperate issues. I still think she's said some dumb things in the past, but it's her right not to be a performing seal for BAFTA if she chooses not to be.LOL, straw man alert! Of course Erivo has every right to not perform at BAFTA. And nobody here is criticizing her for not performing at BAFTA. People are criticizing her for claiming that the reason she isn't performing is "racism" when the real reason is that she didn't get nominated. If she had agreed to perform before nominations and then declined after nominations came out, what she's claiming would hold water. But the fact that she waited to make her decision only after nominations came out clearly tells you that it was her nomination, and her nomination alone, that was always going to be the determining factor. And I know you know I'm right. Because you yourself have claimed in the past that she's bigoted against her American counterparts Way to dig your own grave! |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2020 4:27:30 GMT
^^^^ So now I have to disagree with Erivo on any issue going forward because I've criticised her in the past? You are crazy. These are seperate issues. I still think she's said some dumb things in the past, but it's her right not to be a performing seal for BAFTA if she chooses not to be.LOL, straw man alert! Of course Erivo has every right to not perform at BAFTA. And nobody here is criticizing her for not performing at BAFTA. People are criticizing her for claiming that the reason she isn't performing is "racism" when the real reason is that she didn't get nominated. If she had agreed to perform before nominations and then declined after nominations came out, what she's claiming would hold water. But the fact that she waited to make her decision only after nominations came out clearly tells you that it was her snub, and her snub alone, that was the determining factor. And I know you know I'm right. Because you yourself have claimed in the past that she's bigoted against her American counterparts Cool story bro. |
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Post by ibbi on Jan 12, 2020 4:31:09 GMT
What known issues do BAFTA have? I mean they don't share the United States hard on with Denzel and Morgan Freeman for some reason, but they've been nominating and awarding people of every colour under the sun from the 1950s to the 2010s. Yep. For instance, they gave Sidney Poitier 6 nominations compared to the Academy's 2. Jamie Foxx, Forest Whitaker, and Chiwetel Ejiofor won Best Lead Actor just this century. When people get offended anytime no non-whites are nominated, it's basically asking for a quota system (which is what would actually be racist). Man, the list is long! Toshiro Mifune and Takashi Shimura, Karuna Banerjee, I.S. Johar, Poitier, Dandridge, Diana Ross, Cicely Tyson, Cathy Tyson, Rita Moreno, Kingsley, Rohini Hattangadi, Ngor, Vic Banerjee, Roshan Seth, Saeed Jaffrey, Whoopi, Sam Jackson, Jean-Baptiste, Om Puri, Benicio, Eddie Murphy, Jamie Foxx, Michelle Yeoh, Ziyi Zhang, Halle Berry, Salma Hayek, Gael and Rodrigo, Newton, Freida fucking Pinto, Bardem and Cruz, Sidibe, Mo'Nique, Octavia, Viola, Ejiofor, Lupita, Barkhad Abdi, Idris, Mahershala, Fucking Dev Patel, friggin' Oprah, Naomie Harris, Kaluuya, Malek, and Scarlett Johansson. There's probably others I'm missing. I know the people who complain about lack of diversity from these awards bodies have basically just reduced everything to black and white, but there's obviously a lot more shades to it than that, and BAFTA has shown that over the years with far more awareness than certainly their race obsessed cousins across the pond have done. |
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Post by dadsburgers on Jan 12, 2020 4:32:15 GMT
LOL, like she would have performed if Lopez and Nyong'o were nominated at BAFTA. This is just disingenuous at best and entitlement at worst. You can certainly argue it being disingenuous and entitled, but I'm pretty confident she would have performed had Lopez and Nyong'o been nominated. |
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Post by Good God on Jan 12, 2020 4:34:28 GMT
You can certainly argue it being disingenuous and entitled, but I'm pretty confident she would have performed had Lopez and Nyong'o been nominated. So you think she was waiting on her decision to perform or not until after the nominations to see if Lopez and Nyong'o were nominated? |
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