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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 12, 2018 15:27:19 GMT
Those embarrassing best ensemble nominations are either proof the this year is a joke, or that the SAG has indeed become the new Oscars of middle brow consensus ............or.............both those things. Or they've become the Social Justice Warrior fest for shite films like Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians. The Anti SJWs have become the new SJW. Example A right above me.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 12, 2018 15:27:23 GMT
Or they've become the Social Justice Warrior fest for shite films like Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians. They nominated Bohemian Rhapsody which is like a flood of manure and you're talking about Black Panther. I actually still haven't seen Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 12, 2018 15:28:11 GMT
Or they've become the Social Justice Warrior fest for shite films like Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians. The Anti SJWs have become the new SJW. Example A right above me. You're not very good at logic.
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Post by stabcaesar on Dec 12, 2018 15:28:18 GMT
People were saying the case was rested in 2012 when Waltz missed SAG (yes, due to screener issues, but still) and were calling the race for Jones. SAG is a crucial award, but Adams hasn't won it yet and there's still a good amount of race to be run. The odds are in Adams' favour. For the past 25 years the only time an actor wasn't nominated for a SAG then went on to win an Oscar was Christoph Waltz (and like you said, it was due to screener issues, which King didn't have; if anything Adams had more of a screener issue since Vice has such a late release date). That's literally 1 out of 100. Edit: I forgot about Marca Gay Harden. 2 out of 120 then.
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Post by Sharbs on Dec 12, 2018 15:30:57 GMT
The Favourite missed!!!!! Well, at least it ain't boring-old award season. Also Malek is the only person who showed up in front of or behind the camera for Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Post by stephen on Dec 12, 2018 15:31:44 GMT
People were saying the case was rested in 2012 when Waltz missed SAG (yes, due to screener issues, but still) and were calling the race for Jones. Could be the same issue afflicting If Beale Street Could Talk, as it was completely shut out and comes from a floundering studio. Vice at least has the A-lister recognition that got people to go out and see it for Annapurna. SAG is a crucial award, but Adams hasn't won it yet and there's still a good amount of race to be run. Waltz had Weinstein back before the scandals. King is sharing a campaign a broke as hell distributor with Adams. Django made a shitload of money at the tail end of the season and won a writing prize. It got that fabled late-season surge that propelled Waltz to the win. Weinstein helped, but even at the height of his power, he never really had to do much to push Tarantino. Tarantino's one of those rare filmmakers who acts as his own PR/hype machine. In fact, I'd argue Harvey actually hurt Django more than helped it by his shameless Oscar plugging for DiCaprio. "Leave Leo to me" was mocked resoundingly after Cannes. I'd be very curious to know about the screener situation with Beale Street. I know that Vice hosted some high-level screenings and people sought them out, again due to the A-list cast. But I'm surprised that it didn't break into Ensemble.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 12, 2018 15:32:37 GMT
s rises, Black Panther rises, ASIB is a surefire BP winner now its locked and loaded
I was hoping for SAG to snub Black Panther for Bohemian Rhapsody but nope they went full populist this year. The flick now has a decent chance of winning Best Picture.
It's Adams to lose now and I doubt anyone but the favorite ladies could do it. Blunt is beloved by SAG so this may just be her first chance to get an Oscar nom hopefully she gets snubbed and Robbie gets in over her
My man Cooper is so winning this year Hell he maywin 3 Oscars this year
Going full merc here LOL
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Post by Pavan on Dec 12, 2018 15:36:45 GMT
What's more weird is how Vice didn't get an ensemble with two individual nods but Bohemian Rhapsody got in with just one. It's not like the rest of the cast was any good. Malek's good but the rest of the cast hardly makes an impression. Crazy Rich Asians is a result of SJW thingy.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Dec 12, 2018 15:37:44 GMT
Best Ensamble, hahahahah
I should've seen it coming, it's the same guys who nominate Captain Fantastic and The Butler, of course they will go for the Simple Jacks reunion and now they're better persons so inclusive and diverse.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 12, 2018 15:38:33 GMT
Yeah The Favorite couldn't make it with more noms than Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody. I think its BP chances are dead.
It's ASIB, Roma and Black Panther
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Post by quetee on Dec 12, 2018 15:40:57 GMT
Vice and the favourite not picking up ensemble nods but picking up individual nods is bad.
However, we don't know if SAG resets itself this year or will it be another year. Cause Shape of Water didn't score ensemble nod.
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Post by stephen on Dec 12, 2018 15:42:37 GMT
Yeah The Favorite couldn't make it with more noms than Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody. I think its BP chances are dead. It's ASIB, Roma and Black Panther I mean, last year people were saying the same thing about The Shape of Water. It still got an extremely healthy amount of individual nominations, and BAFTA will surely go hard for it. PGA/DGA will be the real test for any of these. With that said, don't count out BlacKkKlansman. It's getting a nice revive.
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Post by evilbliss on Dec 12, 2018 15:44:56 GMT
- For those who thought Rami Malek's chances were dead: what did I tell you?! - Sam Elliott? Fuck no. - They clearly love Blunt, I remember they nominated her for The Girl in the Train - They love Kidman even more (nod for Grace of Monaco) and yet they snubbed her. Shocking. - Margot but no Saoirse? Interesting.
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Post by bob-coppola on Dec 12, 2018 15:46:15 GMT
It's ridiculous to see Crazy Rich Asians and Bohemian Rhapsody getting Best Ensemble over The Favourite, a movie that even secured two actresses in the same category.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 12, 2018 15:46:54 GMT
Yeah The Favorite couldn't make it with more noms than Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody. I think its BP chances are dead. It's ASIB, Roma and Black Panther I mean, last year people were saying the same thing about The Shape of Water. It still got an extremely healthy amount of individual nominations, and BAFTA will surely go hard for it. PGA/DGA will be the real test for any of these. With that said, don't count out BlacKkKlansman. It's getting a nice revive. The Shape of Water was the frontrunner. No way The Favorite wins PGA and DGA LOL BAFTA will probably go on ASIB favor
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 12, 2018 15:48:07 GMT
Some thoughts:
Supporting actor seems about right, I'm guessing these choices will line up with the academy's, give or take one surprise.
Just as we suspected, Crazy Rich Asians got in for best ensemble.
Rami Malek is great in Bohemian Rhapsody, but if the film gets a best picture nominee over some far more deserving films, I will be extremely extremely disappointed. Also what did the film deserve to do to get best ensemble? Outside of Malek and Mike Myers's one scene, nobody in that film made much of an impression on me.
Regina King snubbed??? But Margot Robbie, what?
The Favorite missing for ensemble is huge, especially over the likes of something like Bohemian Rhapsody. What, do they hate Nicholas Hoult or something?
It's clear at this point that Sag really really likes Emily Blunt, not that I blame them, but despite that, I don't think she gets double nommed this year.
Yay at John David Washington, I could see him getting in over Malek, and then maybe Hawke, who I still think is not 100% dead just yet.
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Post by stephen on Dec 12, 2018 15:49:12 GMT
I mean, last year people were saying the same thing about The Shape of Water. It still got an extremely healthy amount of individual nominations, and BAFTA will surely go hard for it. PGA/DGA will be the real test for any of these. With that said, don't count out BlacKkKlansman. It's getting a nice revive. The Shape of Water was the frontrunner. No way The Favorite wins PGA and DGA LOL BAFTA will probably go on ASIB favor This time last year, the frontrunner was Three Billboards. The Shape of Water didn't eclipse that as the frontrunner until well later in the race, especially after the Billboards backlash hit and McDonagh missed Director.
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Post by quetee on Dec 12, 2018 15:49:39 GMT
Yeah The Favorite couldn't make it with more noms than Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody. I think its BP chances are dead. It's ASIB, Roma and Black Panther I mean, last year people were saying the same thing about The Shape of Water. It still got an extremely healthy amount of individual nominations, and BAFTA will surely go hard for it. PGA/DGA will be the real test for any of these. With that said, don't count out BlacKkKlansman. It's getting a nice revive. Hopefully, the DGA snobs don't kill it.
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Post by hugobolso1 on Dec 12, 2018 15:55:38 GMT
totally different from the Golden Globes
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Post by hugobolso1 on Dec 12, 2018 15:57:32 GMT
Rachel Weisz is splitting votes with Emma Stone. Adams is the new favourite.... I really didn't mean that as a pun. She already have one, so not this season.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 12, 2018 16:00:10 GMT
The Shape of Water was the frontrunner. No way The Favorite wins PGA and DGA LOL BAFTA will probably go on ASIB favor This time last year, the frontrunner was Three Billboards. The Shape of Water didn't eclipse that as the frontrunner until well later in the race, especially after the Billboards backlash hit and McDonagh missed Director. LOL no. TSOW was ever since it won at Venice.and Del Toro was a lock for Director. It only began to tremble when 3B won SAG Ensemble. Even then, The Favorite isn't comparable to either. One was locked to win Director and the other competed with it to win Best Picture. The Favorite will get squashed by the guilds.
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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 12, 2018 16:02:04 GMT
Yeah The Favorite couldn't make it with more noms than Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody. I think its BP chances are dead. It's ASIB, Roma and Black Panther Shape of Water won without SAG ensemble last year...
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Post by stephen on Dec 12, 2018 16:04:31 GMT
This time last year, the frontrunner was Three Billboards. The Shape of Water didn't eclipse that as the frontrunner until well later in the race, especially after the Billboards backlash hit and McDonagh missed Director. LOL no. TSOW was ever since it won at Venice.and Del Toro was a lock for Director. It only began to tremble when 3B won SAG Ensemble. Even then, The Favorite isn't comparable to either. One was locked to win Director and the other competed with it to win Best Picture. The Favorite will get squashed by the guilds. Del Toro was the director frontrunner, but in the last decade, that hasn't correlated much with Best Picture. We've had as many splits as matches since 2010. And The Shape of Water was the first Golden Lion to win Best Picture in history, so nobody took that as a reasonable precursor. And again, hardly anyone was even predicting that film to be a potential frontrunner to win Best Picture. Billboards was the more traditional film, and it won not just SAG Ensemble but also took BAFTA (yes, the hometown advantage, but still). To call The Shape of Water the BP frontrunner since Venice is reshaping history. It wasn't.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 12, 2018 16:15:15 GMT
It was still at the top of guru's and pundits' lists.
I still don't see how that is relevant since you could have used the same argument for the past year race but that took everyone by surprise.
Again, The Favorite couldn't get Ensemble even with 3 nominations. This film is weak and Yorgos may not show up at DGA.
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Post by quetee on Dec 12, 2018 16:23:06 GMT
It was still at the top of guru's and pundits' lists. I still don't see how that is relevant since you could have used the same argument for the past year race but that took everyone by surprise. Again, The Favorite couldn't get Ensemble even with 3 nominations. This film is weak and Yorgos may not show up at DGA. actually, it wasnt. Three Billboards was the favorite. Only 4 out of 30 experts at Gold derby picked Shape to win. In fact, more people here picked Shape to win compared to Gold derby.
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