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Post by Barbie on Mar 14, 2023 15:43:52 GMT
Pathetic virtue signalling. If that’s how you feel, give it back. He could’ve made his point about mentoring people without being like “lol us white guys are too successful sorry for being white”
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 14, 2023 16:12:24 GMT
Pretty sure he was just making a joke about the thing Harry Styles said at the Grammys.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 14, 2023 16:35:15 GMT
Pretty sure he was just making a joke about the thing Harry Styles said at the Grammys. Ehhh I highly doubt it’s a Harry Styles reference. But if it was, then that’s just shady and uncool. I think Styles’ music is boring, but there was nothing wrong with his speech including that line. Most people don’t expect to achieve that level of massive success especially someone from a boy band. It’s unfortunate he got criticism for it
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 16:44:04 GMT
I don't see any problem with what Paul Rogers said. It seems like a pretty standard PR response.
What's funny is that he's so much better looking than most actors at the Oscars lol.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 14, 2023 17:08:43 GMT
I don't see any problem with what Paul Rogers said. It seems like a pretty standard PR response. What's funny is that he's so much better looking than most actors at the Oscars lol. Since when is being apologetic for being white and winning award a standard PR response? Actually nvm that will probably be the standard going forward
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 15, 2023 5:13:37 GMT
Just came in here to say that although I didn't like his film and I wasn't too invested in the awards this year, I was in tears watching the clip of Ke Huy Quan's speech. I couldn't help it. The humbleness that comes with that level of genuine gratitude was so sweet. And this was the kid I watched in the Goonies a million times growing up? Mind blown. That might be up there as one of the best speeches, for me anyway.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 15, 2023 6:34:20 GMT
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 15, 2023 6:51:21 GMT
And just like that I’m disappointed. I normally like her in everything, but so not worthy even nom worthy. Ugh. Oh God, I like Jamie Lee Curtis as well, but what an awful win. Whaa? And as usual I haven't seen ALL of the competition, but absolutely ridiculous for that performance to win an Oscar. I guess for the great performances of the night, "the nomination was the award" *cough* Kerry Condon *cough*.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 15, 2023 8:34:07 GMT
Well, I'm generally pretty happy with these awards, even if the All Quiet Score and Production Design wins baffle me. Don't love that The Whale is an Oscar winning movie but happy for Fraser nonetheless. Absolute bullshit the Avatar VFX guys were played off when they were sandwiched between Elizabeth Banks's godawful Cocaine Bear bit and then Kimmel making an ass of himself to Malala, Farrell, and Chastain. An embarrassing 10 minutes of television. That and having The Little Mermaid trailer as part of the show were easily the low points. Yeah that bit was dumb, and I’m not even sure why he chose Chastain for the inevitable Matt Damon joke. I mean I’m not going to complain about any additional screen time Chastain gets during the show, but if you’re going to do the joke, it would have made more sense if he went with someone who had a more substantial role in a movie with Matt Damon, like, you know, one of the actual nominees like Cate Blanchett (Talented Mr. Ripley), Hong Chau (Downsizing), or even Brendan Fraser (School Ties).
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 15, 2023 8:47:05 GMT
I'm just copying this from Jeff Wells site but did they really miss all of these in the In Memorium? Paul Sorvino, Anne Heche, Jean-Louis Trintignant, Tom Sizemore, Stella Stevens and Philip Baker Hall.
Also dead but officially unrecognized: Robert Blake, Topol, Charlbi Dean, Fred Ward, Melinda Dillon, Tony Sirico, Clu Gulager, Mike Hodges, Hugh Hudson, LQ Jones, Bo Hopkins, Robert Morse, Roger E. Mosley, James Olson, Andrew Prine, Henry Silva, Joseph Turkel, Leon Vitali, David Warner, Cindy Williams, Leslie Jordan, Peter Brook
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Post by flasuss on Mar 15, 2023 11:16:23 GMT
Topol and Tom Sizemore probably died too recently to make the list, but yeah, it's too much
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 15, 2023 13:13:28 GMT
The Sorvino, PBH, and Heche omissions are especially glaring.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Mar 15, 2023 14:36:58 GMT
Yeah, how do you not include Paul Sorvino?
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Post by stephen on Mar 15, 2023 14:57:34 GMT
Yeah, how do you not include Paul Sorvino? Especially considering the man is a part of one of my favourite Oscar moments, when Mira Sorvino gives him a shout-out during her acceptance speech and the big lug breaks down crying.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 15, 2023 16:25:12 GMT
was talking with my boss yesterday and she didn't care much for the JLC win either and was rooting hard for Bassett. When I told her I was rooting for Condon she did a double-take and it was heartbreaking, like "Oh? Interesting... yeah I liked that movie" Banshees had no hype at all. Condon was just a BAFTA and MAR thing
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 15, 2023 16:47:25 GMT
You can actually play a game of when precisely I lost touch with the rest of the world by monitoring the pacinoyes beloved BP nominated movies that have now walked away empty handed in the last 4 Oscar telecasts - the 2020s TV shows: The Irishman (0 for 10 in 2019 my #1 that year), Banshees of Inisherin (0 for 9 my #5), Tar (0 for 6 my #3), Licorice Pizza (0 for 3 in my top 10) etc ......I enjoy looking at the gowns and stuff these days basically........
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 15, 2023 16:53:14 GMT
Well there's always something though - at one time it was the introduction of TV .......then it was the introduction of home video........now it's your phone and streamers.....it's no different from sports ........wooden tennis rackets vs. graphite tennis rackets............changes in passing rules............t's never the "exact same playing field"........... The real point about my post was to quote the part where I said "movies matter less - so the Oscars matter less" .......and that started happening well before streaming ....... I don’t disagree with your last statement, and it’s certainly a factor. But I also think outside of live sports, the general public is not going to find a way to tune into anything on a major network anymore. Then why is live sports the exception? as you highlight. Why don't they do the same for the Super Bowl (or the World Cup), which are just as big as deals as they were in the past. Everyone talked about the Super Bowl or the elections the week before. Not one person mentioned the Oscars here. Can't imagine that being the case 20 years ago.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 15, 2023 16:59:10 GMT
was talking with my boss yesterday and she didn't care much for the JLC win either and was rooting hard for Bassett. When I told her I was rooting for Condon she did a double-take and it was heartbreaking, like "Oh? Interesting... yeah I liked that movie" Banshees had no hype at all. Condon was just a BAFTA and MAR thing Yeah, Condon and Banshees didn't have much hype on reddit and twitter. Nor does All Quiet which is unfairly vilified on internet. People just don't like sad movies these days.
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Post by Archie on Mar 15, 2023 16:59:25 GMT
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Post by tep on Mar 15, 2023 17:05:33 GMT
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 15, 2023 18:05:01 GMT
I don’t disagree with your last statement, and it’s certainly a factor. But I also think outside of live sports, the general public is not going to find a way to tune into anything on a major network anymore. Then why is live sports the exception? as you highlight. Why don't they do the same for the Super Bowl (or the World Cup), which are just as big as deals as they were in the past. Everyone talked about the Super Bowl or the elections the week before. Not one person mentioned the Oscars here. Can't imagine that being the case 20 years ago. Live sports are made available on streaming services.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 15, 2023 19:06:56 GMT
I don’t disagree with your last statement, and it’s certainly a factor. But I also think outside of live sports, the general public is not going to find a way to tune into anything on a major network anymore. Then why is live sports the exception? as you highlight. Why don't they do the same for the Super Bowl (or the World Cup), which are just as big as deals as they were in the past. Everyone talked about the Super Bowl or the elections the week before. Not one person mentioned the Oscars here. Can't imagine that being the case 20 years ago. There is no suitable alternative for professional sports. If I want to watch football, the premium way to do that is to put on the NFL. If I want to see Brendan Fraser, my best option is probably The Mummy on Hulu. The draw for the Oscars for decades was simple: you get to see a bunch of movie stars. Those stars are all widely available to view whenever you want now, and culture is much more fractured now than it was during the heyday of the Oscars.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 15, 2023 19:17:21 GMT
Then why is live sports the exception? as you highlight. Why don't they do the same for the Super Bowl (or the World Cup), which are just as big as deals as they were in the past. Everyone talked about the Super Bowl or the elections the week before. Not one person mentioned the Oscars here. Can't imagine that being the case 20 years ago. There is no suitable alternative for professional sports. If I want to watch football, the premium way to do that is to put on the NFL. If I want to see Brendan Fraser, my best option is probably The Mummy on Hulu. The draw for the Oscars for decades was simple: you get to see a bunch of movie stars. Those stars are all widely available to view whenever you want now, and culture is much more fractured now than it was during the heyday of the Oscars. Or the simple explanation is that movies and interest in awards shows has gone down a bit. I can't remember the last Oscar show to have a landmark movie. Like Titanic, or The Godfather, or Star Wars - some of the highest rated Oscars have been during those years. Older adults rarely talk new movies anymore where in 1999 or 2000 I remember older adults being quite involved in releases like Gladiator or Crouching Tiger. Demise of IMDB message boards are a reason too. And I don't see that there is many alternatives for the Oscars either. Brendan Fraser is not a needle mover any way you slice it. And sure, I love looking at pictures of hot women.... but I don't pass on the chance to look at more hot women when the show is on even tho the internet is right there.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 15, 2023 19:23:59 GMT
There is no suitable alternative for professional sports. If I want to watch football, the premium way to do that is to put on the NFL. If I want to see Brendan Fraser, my best option is probably The Mummy on Hulu. The draw for the Oscars for decades was simple: you get to see a bunch of movie stars. Those stars are all widely available to view whenever you want now, and culture is much more fractured now than it was during the heyday of the Oscars. Or the simple explanation is that movies and interest in awards shows has gone down a bit. I can't remember the last Oscar show to have a landmark movie. Like Titanic, or The Godfather, or Star Wars - some of the highest rated Oscars have been during those years. Older adults rarely talk new movies anymore where in 1999 or 2000 I remember older adults being quite involved in releases like Gladiator or Crouching Tiger. Demise of IMDB message boards are a reason too. And I don't see that there is many alternatives for the Oscars either. Brendan Fraser is not a needle mover any way you slice it. And sure, I love looking at pictures of hot women.... but I don't pass on the chance to look at more hot women when the show is on even tho the internet is right there. This Oscars had Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar: The Way of Water as nominees and it didn't really matter. The Oscars are just not a show people are interested in. The entertainment value provided is not there, and the unique draw it had is dissipated. Any specific thing people would want to watch the show for (if ___ won, fashion, etc.) can be found the next morning and you don't need to sit through 3.5 hours to get it.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Mar 15, 2023 19:38:52 GMT
Or the simple explanation is that movies and interest in awards shows has gone down a bit. I can't remember the last Oscar show to have a landmark movie. Like Titanic, or The Godfather, or Star Wars - some of the highest rated Oscars have been during those years. Older adults rarely talk new movies anymore where in 1999 or 2000 I remember older adults being quite involved in releases like Gladiator or Crouching Tiger. Demise of IMDB message boards are a reason too. And I don't see that there is many alternatives for the Oscars either. Brendan Fraser is not a needle mover any way you slice it. And sure, I love looking at pictures of hot women.... but I don't pass on the chance to look at more hot women when the show is on even tho the internet is right there. This Oscars had Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar: The Way of Water as nominees and it didn't really matter. The Oscars are just not a show people are interested in. The entertainment value provided is not there, and the unique draw it had is dissipated. Any specific thing people would want to watch the show for (if ___ won, fashion, etc.) can be found the next morning and you don't need to sit through 3.5 hours to get it. Personally I remember much more hype in 2003 for POTC and LOTR than Avatar: Way of Water or Top Gun: Maverick. There were some people talking about those movies, but I wouldn't say that that pair even eclipsed how big Gladiator or Crouching Tiger was much less POTC or ROTK. The only thing interesting to me about the show is seeing Hunter Schafer and Emily Ratajkowski's half naked dress. I didn't see the show because I was working. But literally nothing else interested me. I think also the mentality that "it's not the golden age of movies" plays in the precipitous ratings drop. There are tons of people who don't listen to anything after the 80s and say that music is dead - and has been for a while now. I just think that similar mentality for music is applicable for movies as well because it's kind of a similar if not the exact same attitude. Grammys ratings have dropped too. Tho there are some serious passion for contemporary musicians at a level I don't see for contemporary movies.
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