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Post by Allenism on Mar 13, 2023 22:34:50 GMT
I guess Angela Basset didn't do the thing.
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 13, 2023 23:06:43 GMT
And Andrea Riseborough came......and went.
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Post by ibbi on Mar 13, 2023 23:27:17 GMT
I guess Angela Basset didn't do the thing. Unless the thing is losing at the Oscars. #simplythe(secondorthird)best
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Post by VERITAS on Mar 14, 2023 0:21:23 GMT
Why is Paul Rogers so basic-hot? Like basic-fuckable? And why am I a basic bitch for thirsting over him? Oh. Congratulations, though...
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Mar 14, 2023 0:46:32 GMT
I can't remember the last time MAR was this depressed. Y'all were more enthusiastic when Green Book won. Don't be disingenuous. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of EEAAO, and everything to do with, like Stephen says below, the exhaustion of this award season. And I disagree that people sound more depressed than when GB won. There was genuine outrage then, especially since that was an upset. EEAAO will age much better as a winner than GB, and about 75% of the BP winners in the 21st century. Tbh, I think the reason people weren't more outraged at the dogshit wins last year was cuz "the slap" sucked up all the energy of the discourse. In almost 30 years of Oscar-watching, last year was the first ceremony I shut off halfway in (after Hackboy Branagh robbed PTA's Oscar mostly cuz of pathetic & disgusting faux-progressive SJW performative outrage), but ALL the Big 8 winners last year except Kotsur were cringe. With the exception of S. Actress, I would take this year's winners in all the other major categories over last year's horrid bunch. Even dogshit 2019 Green Book year had Olivia Colman in actress and Cuaron for director.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Mar 14, 2023 0:51:53 GMT
I think for me the depressing part is knowing that in a few years from now, nobody will legit care about the Oscars. I think we reached that point like a decade ago. EnvelopeGate in 2017 and SlapGate last year were the only 2 times the Oscars were a major source of water-cooler talk since way back when McFarlane hosted in 2013.
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Post by quetee on Mar 14, 2023 1:00:47 GMT
I can't remember the last time MAR was this depressed. Y'all were more enthusiastic when Green Book won. Don't be disingenuous. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of EEAAO, and everything to do with, like Stephen says below, the exhaustion of this award season. And I disagree that people sound more depressed than when GB won. There was genuine outrage then, especially since that was an upset. EEAAO will age much better as a winner than GB, and about 75% of the BP winners in the 21st century. Tbh, I think the reason people weren't more outraged at the dogshit wins last year was cuz "the slap" sucked up all the energy of the discourse. In almost 30 years of Oscar-watching, last year was the first ceremony I shut off halfway in (after Hackboy Branagh robbed PTA's Oscar mostly cuz of pathetic & disgusting faux-progressive SJW performative outrage), but ALL the Big 8 winners last year except Kotsur were cringe. With the exception of S. Actress, I would take this year's winners in all the other major categories over last year's horrid bunch. Even dogshit 2019 Green Book year had Olivia Colman in actress and Cuaron for director. Thanks for the reminder. LMAO.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 14, 2023 1:11:57 GMT
Another bit of WTF about the ceremony - who in the hell decided this was a good/suitable background picture?
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Post by quetee on Mar 14, 2023 1:19:15 GMT
I think for me the depressing part is knowing that in a few years from now, nobody will legit care about the Oscars. I think we reached that point like a decade ago. EnvelopeGate in 2017 and SlapGate last year were the only 2 times the Oscars were a major source of water-cooler talk since way back when McFarlane hosted in 2013. Let's put this into persepctive: 113 mil watched this year's Superbowl 18 mil watched the Oscars on broadcast tv. 8 mil watched "The Last of US" subscription tv. Doesn't look good.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 14, 2023 2:06:07 GMT
Even if people wanted to tune in to watch a 3-hour ceremony celebrating movies most of them didn't watch complete with long speeches and horrible jokes, it's something you have to go out of your way to do unless you have a live TV subscription or wanna track down a pirated stream. Like I don't think it would boost their ratings that much but ABC (Disney) could certainly make it more accessible.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2023 2:06:33 GMT
Another bit of WTF about the ceremony - who in the hell decided this was a good/suitable background picture? It's a hologram doing the eulogy at his own funeral.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Mar 14, 2023 2:19:55 GMT
Why does Schrader sound vaguely jingoistic and elitist? Vaguely?
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Post by Brother Fease on Mar 14, 2023 2:20:01 GMT
18 mill is the highest since 2020. Maybe people tuned in because of the slap or because at least 5 popular films nominated.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 14, 2023 2:57:41 GMT
I can't remember the last time MAR was this depressed. Y'all were more enthusiastic when Green Book won. I'm not depressed about the wins bc I was expecting them. But I am depressed about the state of the entertainment industry from movies to tv shows to music
I was watching clips from award shows like 20-30 years ago, and the categories were STACKED. So many performances and artists nominated were truly competitive
Now the categories are weak af. Out of the acting winners last night, only Ke Huy Quan's came close to a true extraordinary performance. The standard for what makes an award winning performance, movie, tv show, etc. has gone down dramatically
Add to this SJWs demanding award shows give out awards based on identity rather than merit/quality, I just know the next 10 years are going to continue this downward trend. I find all this really depressing
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Post by Barbie on Mar 14, 2023 2:58:18 GMT
And Andrea Riseborough came......and went. I forgot she even got nominated lol
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 3:17:27 GMT
18 mill is the highest since 2017. Maybe people tuned in because of the slap or because at least 5 popular films nominated. It's the highest since 2021, not 2017. 2017 - 32.9M 2018 - 26.5M 2019 - 29.6M 2020 - 23.6M 2021 - 10.4M 2022 - 16.6M 2023 - 18.7M Factoring in the infamous slap and the massive support for EEAAO, Brendan Fraser, and the two major blockbuster nominees, a 15% or so increase in viewership is actually quite bad. I feel that contenders this year have had the highest level of public attention in recent memory, but the rating still isn't outstanding, which likely means it will only get worse from here.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 3:20:36 GMT
And Andrea Riseborough came......and went. I forgot she even got nominated lol Yeah ... all that fiasco only for her to basically skip the red carpet altogether (I think I saw a picture or two of her on the red carpet, but she probably walked real fast into the theatre lol), did next to no publicity for her film, and showed up on screen for like 3 seconds before Michelle Yeoh won, lol.
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Post by quetee on Mar 14, 2023 3:26:10 GMT
18 mill is the highest since 2017. Maybe people tuned in because of the slap or because at least 5 popular films nominated. It's the highest since 2021, not 2017. 2017 - 32.9M 2018 - 26.5M 2019 - 29.6M 2020 - 23.6M 2021 - 10.4M 2022 - 16.6M 2023 - 18.7M Factoring in the infamous slap and the massive support for EEAAO, Brendan Fraser, and the two major blockbuster nominees, a 15% or so increase in viewership is actually quite bad. I feel that contenders this year have had the highest level of public attention in recent memory, but the rating still isn't outstanding, which likely means it will only get worse from here. pretty much. No movie gp watched was gonna win.
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Post by Pavan on Mar 14, 2023 6:34:03 GMT
18 mill is the highest since 2017. Maybe people tuned in because of the slap or because at least 5 popular films nominated. Addition of popular films helps. RRR getting a international feature of BP would've boosted ratings even more. Many people i know who are not usually interested in Oscars streamed it here just for RRR's song performance and win. I guess a lot of Indians in US watched it on ABC for RRR.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 7:05:41 GMT
I am pretty sure - off the top of my head that 40 million people watched regularly 20 years ago.....how is 18 million "good" .....I've said this a lot before movies matter less now so the Oscars matter less .......there was a peak in all forms of Pop Art ..we are now in our "Advanced Jazz Age" where people now can experience a new jazz album and love it but it ripples almost not at all in the US culture...... Everything has a peak - there was a peak in Poetry......once we were a book culture .......I love the movies too - heck I've belonged to MAR / IMDB since it started in 1802.......we love a dying medium (in the US anyway).......it's ok to admit it ....you ever see what Rock bands I like currently? No one knows that shit Pffft
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 7:45:06 GMT
I am pretty sure - off the top of my head that 40 million people watched regularly 20 years ago.....how is 18 million "good" .....I've said this a lot before movies matter less now so the Oscars matter less .......there was a peak in all forms of Pop Art ..we are now in our "Advanced Jazz Age" where people now can experience a new jazz album and love it but it ripples almost not at all in the US culture...... Everything has a peak - there was a peak in Poetry......once we were a book culture .......I love the movies too - heck I've belonged to MAR / IMDB since it started in 1802.......we love a dying medium (in the US anyway).......it's ok to admit it ....you ever see what Rock bands I like currently? No one knows that shit Pffft You don't even have to go that far back. When Ellen hosted the show 9 years ago the viewership was 43 million. I think the paradigm shift for award shows just happened too quickly for these organisations to respond properly. The pandemic simply accelerated this process.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 14, 2023 13:43:01 GMT
I am pretty sure - off the top of my head that 40 million people watched regularly 20 years ago.....how is 18 million "good" ..... It’s not a fair comparison because it’s not the same playing field. 20 years ago basically every household had network cable with no alternatives. Today that number has been cut down by a considerable margin. Hell, I barely know anyone anymore that hasn’t “cut the cord” and moved exclusively to streamers.
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Post by stephen on Mar 14, 2023 13:53:53 GMT
Why does Schrader sound vaguely jingoistic and elitist? "Vaguely"?
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 14:02:42 GMT
I am pretty sure - off the top of my head that 40 million people watched regularly 20 years ago.....how is 18 million "good" ..... It’s not a fair comparison because it’s not the same playing field. 20 years ago basically every household had network cable with no alternatives. Today that number has been cut down by a considerable margin. Hell, I barely know anyone anymore that hasn’t “cut the cord” and moved exclusively to streamers. Well there's always something though - at one time it was the introduction of TV .......then it was the introduction of home video........now it's your phone and streamers.....it's no different from sports ........wooden tennis rackets vs. graphite tennis rackets............changes in passing rules............t's never the "exact same playing field"........... The real point about my post was to quote the part where I said "movies matter less - so the Oscars matter less" .......and that started happening well before streaming .......
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 14, 2023 14:07:38 GMT
It’s not a fair comparison because it’s not the same playing field. 20 years ago basically every household had network cable with no alternatives. Today that number has been cut down by a considerable margin. Hell, I barely know anyone anymore that hasn’t “cut the cord” and moved exclusively to streamers. Well there's always something though - at one time it was the introduction of TV .......then it was the introduction of home video........now it's your phone and streamers.....it's no different from sports ........wooden tennis rackets vs. graphite tennis rackets............changes in passing rules............t's never the "exact same playing field"........... The real point about my post was to quote the part where I said "movies matter less - so the Oscars matter less" .......and that started happening well before streaming ....... I don’t disagree with your last statement, and it’s certainly a factor. But I also think outside of live sports, the general public is not going to find a way to tune into anything on a major network anymore.
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