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Post by countjohn on Mar 30, 2022 23:57:28 GMT
Before it gets really old.... My mini-recap on red carpet looks *snip*
Chastain's was a little too princess-y for me. Reminds me of a prom dress. If you dropped the light pink or whatever it is and just had the tone from the top be the whole dress it might have been alright. Men's alternative formalwear just sucks to me. Just wear the standard black, everyone looks good in it. There just isn't as much you can do with menswear as with dresses. I think it was Sacha Baron Cohen who wore a brown dinner jacket a few years ago that I thought was alright, but by and large don't rock the boat. I liked Maggie Gyllenhaal's a lot and I usually hate modern "high fashion" type stuff and wish people would just wear 50's or 60's dresses. It actually has a symmetry to it unlike a lot of the deliberately ugly stuff you see and the gold adornments make it pop. Nice job by whoever the designer was. I haven't checked but I have a feeling this one is getting made fun of online but it doesn't deserve it. I thought Stewart's was cool. Everyone's expecting her to wear a big dress since she's playing Diana and instead she goes butch with that and her hair parted to the side and surprises everyone.
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Post by stephen on Mar 31, 2022 12:58:08 GMT
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Post by Barbie on Mar 31, 2022 21:52:18 GMT
Before it gets really old.... My mini-recap on red carpet looks BEST Jada Pinkett Smith. She owned the night... for this particular reason. This is what the Oscars red carpets are made for. Great color (green stone???), dramatic, exciting, etc, legend. The torso area Not far behind: Jessica Chastain. Just like in movies, I also have fashion pet peeves... the way most designers try to accentuate the waist with a belt or rope, blagh. The beauty of Chastain's dress is that is fitted in the waist but is invisible and in the meantime transforms from one bright, magnetic color to other, the low part is the cherry on top. This is the kind of dress an oscar winner should always wear.... the moment I saw Penelope on the red carpet I knew it was over Kodi Smit-McPhee. Perfectly fitted. risky color, love the way the bottoms are distributed and jewerly insted of classic bow tie Lily James. Simple silhouette but a huge among of quality details if looking closer. Is incredibly sexy but not in an obvious way Lupita Nyong'o. She gave us the LOOK of the night... I found women in gold sort of irresistible tbh. The unusual sleeve for a dress and the strips that go from very short to very long is what won me over, the pink flowers are nicely distributed as well. Sebastian Yatra. Very old school. Obsessed with the waistcoat and the shoes. Perfection. A great example of how to make a tuxedo interesting Saniya Sidney. To be young and happy... Doesn't have a lot of elements but looks really nice. The curves that creates the fabric is sort of a miracle + one from last year: Regina King (the only one I found memorable) old school silhouette but highly complex in details. Intriguing, appreciate the effort: Kirsten Dunst. Extravagant, over the top and elegant at the same time. And it's vintage, that fashion label doesn't produce anymore... It would look better holding oscar though... and a more dramatic hairstyle Maggie Gyllenhaal. The more I look at it, the more I love it. The shoulder element did it for me. Olivia Colman. I actually kind of hate Dior because of the stubborness to put belts and ropes in dresses but this is a great color and the sleeves are fun. Without that rope and let the fabric flow and do its thing... it would be one of my favourites. Timothee Chalamet. Actually a white t-shirt is missing. Amy Schumer. It makes sense on her, funny, humorous, simple... Nice ideas but looks cheap: Zendaya Rickey thompson worst: Caitriona Balfe. what a weird shape. and why the ruffles ? Kristen Stewart. What a waste, she could've done something Diana-like. this is just sad Daniel Kaluuya. fits horribly And a few others: Nicole Kidman, Traci Ellis Rose, mostly boring stuff...Penelope Cruz needs to break the contact with Chanel (same for Kristen) Agree about Balfe. Her red carpet run this season was disappointing. Just an absolute waste of beauty and potential bc she could so dominate. It bothers me when beautiful celebs have shitty fashion sense. And Cruz and Stewart. And yea fuck Chanel! When will their contracts end?! I think Margot Robbie had a Chanel contract a few years ago, and I’m so glad she doesn’t have it anymore.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 31, 2022 22:01:17 GMT
If the Oscars strip Smith of his award or ban him from future ceremonies or anything, they will only hurt themselves in the long run because he’s the least, THE LEAST, shitty person that has an Oscar. ETA: I meant out of all the shitty people who have an Oscar, he’s the least shitty of them all
The naked hypocrisy of the academy letting literal rapists and pedophiles keep their Oscars (and silence and complicity over the years) while overreacting to Smith would be another nail in their coffin in terms of credibility. And yes they would be overreacting if they discipline him, sorry. What he did was idiotic and wrong. He overreacted for sure, but the response to his stupidity isn’t to deal with it with a wrecking ball especially without dealing with actual abusers.
The blowback to his slap is absolutely fucking unhinged and worse than what he did. People talking about “I’m traumatized...I was sickened...”. Like Jim Carrey of all people trying to act moral about it? Lol ok settle down. Like Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes playing the trauma card? LOL this was like a bar fight at a fancy event. Chill. Absolute fucking weenies. I hate this word but word “pussies” comes to mind. Weak ass losers.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 31, 2022 23:23:23 GMT
If the Oscars strip Smith of his award or ban him from future ceremonies or anything, they will only hurt themselves in the long run because he’s the least, THE LEAST, shitty person that has an Oscar.The naked hypocrisy of the academy letting literal rapists and pedophiles keep their Oscars (and silence and complicity over the years) while overreacting to Smith would be another nail in their coffin in terms of credibility. And yes they would be overreacting if they discipline him, sorry. What he did was idiotic and wrong. He overreacted for sure, but the response to his stupidity isn’t to deal with it with a wrecking ball especially without dealing with actual abusers. The blowback to his slap is absolutely fucking unhinged and worse than what he did. People talking about “I’m traumatized...I was sickened...”. Like Jim Carrey of all people trying to act moral about it? Lol ok settle down. Like Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes playing the trauma card? LOL this was like a bar fight at a fancy event. Chill. Absolute fucking weenies. I hate this word but word “pussies” comes to mind. Weak ass losers. What in the actual ass.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 1, 2022 2:00:50 GMT
Doubtful Smith was directly asked to leave by any Academy officials or security. We would've seen or heard something about that - I mean, we know about Denzel, Tyler Perry, and Bradley Cooper talking to him at the break. The idea might have been floated around, but I assume that when Chris went backstage and said he didn't want to press charges that it was decided not to escalate the situation with a forced removal.
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Post by Barbie on Apr 1, 2022 2:38:24 GMT
If the Oscars strip Smith of his award or ban him from future ceremonies or anything, they will only hurt themselves in the long run because he’s the least, THE LEAST, shitty person that has an Oscar.The naked hypocrisy of the academy letting literal rapists and pedophiles keep their Oscars (and silence and complicity over the years) while overreacting to Smith would be another nail in their coffin in terms of credibility. And yes they would be overreacting if they discipline him, sorry. What he did was idiotic and wrong. He overreacted for sure, but the response to his stupidity isn’t to deal with it with a wrecking ball especially without dealing with actual abusers. The blowback to his slap is absolutely fucking unhinged and worse than what he did. People talking about “I’m traumatized...I was sickened...”. Like Jim Carrey of all people trying to act moral about it? Lol ok settle down. Like Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes playing the trauma card? LOL this was like a bar fight at a fancy event. Chill. Absolute fucking weenies. I hate this word but word “pussies” comes to mind. Weak ass losers. What in the actual ass. Ooos I should’ve clarified. I meant out of all the shitty people who have an Oscar, he’s the least shitty
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Post by avnermoriarti on Apr 1, 2022 4:44:17 GMT
who gets the "celebrity arms" first ?
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Apr 1, 2022 16:27:56 GMT
If the Oscars strip Smith of his award or ban him from future ceremonies or anything, they will only hurt themselves in the long run because he’s the least, THE LEAST, shitty person that has an Oscar. ETA: I meant out of all the shitty people who have an Oscar, he’s the least shitty of them all The naked hypocrisy of the academy letting literal rapists and pedophiles keep their Oscars (and silence and complicity over the years) while overreacting to Smith would be another nail in their coffin in terms of credibility. And yes they would be overreacting if they discipline him, sorry. What he did was idiotic and wrong. He overreacted for sure, but the response to his stupidity isn’t to deal with it with a wrecking ball especially without dealing with actual abusers. The blowback to his slap is absolutely fucking unhinged and worse than what he did. People talking about “I’m traumatized...I was sickened...”. Like Jim Carrey of all people trying to act moral about it? Lol ok settle down. Like Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes playing the trauma card? LOL this was like a bar fight at a fancy event. Chill. Absolute fucking weenies. I hate this word but word “pussies” comes to mind. Weak ass losers. I don't understand this line of thinking. Nobody is seriously saying they should take Smith's Oscar away. He will keep it, and rightfully so. I keep seeing people bring up Polanski but he was already removed from the Academy. There is a difference between being a shitty person in private and being a shitty person in public. I think the Academy needs to do more about abusers but that doesn't excuse Smith. While he's done and said awful things, nobody expects Mel Gibson to storm the stage and assault the host on live TV. You're not at a bar. You're at a public ceremony.
The actions may not be as bad as others but Smith violated their code of conduct in a very public way AT THEIR OWN EVENT. I don't see how they can't discipline him at this point. Everyone saw what happened. If he can't control himself at their public event, why should he be invited back? Comedians have been making offensive jokes about celebrities at these events forever. Nobody else storms the stage. Don't show up if you can't take it.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 1, 2022 16:29:56 GMT
Watching the World Cup draw and this is how you do an in memoriam
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Apr 1, 2022 22:51:31 GMT
Will Smith resigns from the Academy.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 1, 2022 23:28:53 GMT
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 1, 2022 23:40:06 GMT
Will Smith pulling a Nixon.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 2, 2022 0:00:44 GMT
Will Smith pulling a Nixon. Damn, now I want to see a Secret Honor type of movie about Smith
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 2, 2022 17:08:05 GMT
Denzel Washington - his first comments on the incident where the cuckold assaulted a man who didn't actually sleep with his wife. Um. ....... On Saturday, Washington addressed the incident at pastor and author T.D. Jakes' leadership summit, saying that "for whatever reason the devil got ahold of [Will Smith] that night," according to his comments reported by Variety and The Wrap.
“You stepped in the middle of World War III,” Jakes said, asking Smith about the incident.
"There’s a saying when the devil ignores you, then you know you’re doing something wrong,” Washington said. "The devil goes, 'Oh no leave him alone, he’s my favorite.' Conversely, when the devil comes at you, maybe it’s because he’s trying to do something right. And for whatever reason the devil got ahold of him that night."
Washington did not want to share details about the conversation he had with Smith following the slap, but said that he prayed with Smith and others, including Tyler Perry, who came to comfort him in the aftermath.
"Fortunately there were people there. Not just me, but others, Tyler Perry, came immediately right over there with me. [Said] some prayers. I don’t wanna say what we talked about, but there but for the grace of God go any of us. Who are we to condemn? I don’t know all the ins and outs of the situation, but I know the only solution was prayer, the way I see it,” Washington said.
Actor Bradley Cooper was also seen talking to Smith and hugging him following Smith's onstage assault. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/denzel-washington-will-smith-slap-oscars![](https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/03/28/04/newFile-1.jpg?quality=75&width=982&height=726&auto=webp)
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 2, 2022 20:10:16 GMT
Boy, Denzel has been on that devil talk heavy. He sounds like an old church lady. ![:laugh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/30ulL7PvEvGt97femFHx.gif) I make jokes, but people need to make it clear. Jada and Will were separated and both sleeping with other people.
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2022 20:11:47 GMT
I get that faith is a major part of Washington's life, but to ascribe Smith's actions to "the devil" takes away human accountability.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 2, 2022 20:23:10 GMT
I don't think Denzel is literally saying the devil forced Will Smith to slap Chris Rock. If you're familiar with "church-speak," that phrase is usually more of a metaphor that refers to the way your sinful nature can come out and the way temptation can come to you at your highest point and that it's a call to turn towards grace.
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2022 20:24:40 GMT
I don't think Denzel is literally saying the devil forced Will Smith to slap Chris Rock. If you're familiar with "church-speak," that phrase is usually more of a metaphor that refers to the way your sinful nature can come out and the way temptation can come to you at your highest point and that it's a call to turn towards grace. I know. I grew up in a very religious environment. Doesn't mean I like it, especially in this day and age, because so many people don't use it metaphorically and will ascribe responsibility to the devil rather than owning it.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 2, 2022 20:45:48 GMT
Of course Denzel was talking about the horned fellow with the red pitchfork.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 2, 2022 20:48:23 GMT
I don't think Denzel is literally saying the devil forced Will Smith to slap Chris Rock. If you're familiar with "church-speak," that phrase is usually more of a metaphor that refers to the way your sinful nature can come out and the way temptation can come to you at your highest point and that it's a call to turn towards grace. Oh yeah, I definitely get it. ![:laugh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/30ulL7PvEvGt97femFHx.gif) It's just he's been giving me flashbacks to the days when some lady from the Baptist church would tell me the devil got to me because of the music I listened to. Fuck the slap. Denzel is traumatizing me.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Apr 2, 2022 20:52:53 GMT
I don't think Denzel is literally saying the devil forced Will Smith to slap Chris Rock. If you're familiar with "church-speak," that phrase is usually more of a metaphor that refers to the way your sinful nature can come out and the way temptation can come to you at your highest point and that it's a call to turn towards grace. I know. I grew up in a very religious environment. Doesn't mean I like it, especially in this day and age, because so many people don't use it metaphorically and will ascribe responsibility to the devil rather than owning it. And even that’s a show of extreme benefit of the doubt, provided they do show some humility and own up to it. Or brush it off, pretend that sin wasn’t sinful, and try to embarrass and convince the “guilty” party of being the sinners. EDIT: I’m genuinely shocked I haven’t seen any mention of Rock being possessed as a vessel to taunt Smith, and coax the sin out of him
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2022 21:04:31 GMT
Of course Denzel was talking about the horned fellow with the red pitchfork. Glib description of the devil aside, how do you know he wasn't? Washington is an extremely religious man, very vocal about his faith, and he has been very public about his feelings about the seriousness of morality and righteousness. People who take their faith that seriously often take it literally, and unless someone actually asks Washington flat-out if he believes in the devil as a physical entity rather than a metaphorical one, we simply can't say for sure. But even assuming that he did mean it metaphorically, what we can say is that there are millions of people who do take it literally, and those are the people who are happy to put the blame for their failings and shortcomings on a scapegoat rather than taking ownership. Bringing up the devil in this context, even in a metaphorical context, allows for an "out" for someone to take, a finger to point. That's the lifelong issue I have always had with the concept.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 2, 2022 21:30:19 GMT
Of course Denzel was talking about the horned fellow with the red pitchfork. Glib description of the devil aside, how do you know he wasn't? Washington is an extremely religious man, very vocal about his faith, and he has been very public about his feelings about the seriousness of morality and righteousness. People who take their faith that seriously often take it literally, and unless someone actually asks Washington flat-out if he believes in the devil as a physical entity rather than a metaphorical one, we simply can't say for sure. But even assuming that he did mean it metaphorically, what we can say is that there are millions of people who do take it literally, and those are the people who are happy to put the blame for their failings and shortcomings on a scapegoat rather than taking ownership. Bringing up the devil in this context, even in a metaphorical context, allows for an "out" for someone to take, a finger to point. That's the lifelong issue I have always had with the concept.
He also mentioned that him and Perry had a private conversation with Smith during the Oscars that he didn't want to get into or talk about publicly. Maybe he gave a quick stern lecture to Will about the action he took with Chris, who knows, that was a conversation between those three gentleman. But if you expected Denzel to go out in public platform like T.D. Jakes Faith and Hollywood Summit event to chastise Will Smith and "throw him under the bus" he wasn't going to do that. Everybody and their mother have had their say and opinion on the matter. Denzel is metaphorically saying Will had his lowest moment ("when the devil came for him") as a human being on live tv when he slapped Chris Rock which goes against everything about the public personality Will Smith represented since the late 80s. He had a poor lack of judgment and that is what Denzel is talking about using religious metaphor in front of a crowd/function that understands where he's coming from.
Denzel has been Will Smith's friend and mentor for 30+ years and he's probably given Smith a ton of advice over those years about navigating a life/career in Hollywood. I would've been more surprised if Denzel did actually chastise and condemn him in public just to satisfy some people's desires to see him rebuke Smith like that.
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2022 21:34:22 GMT
Glib description of the devil aside, how do you know he wasn't? Washington is an extremely religious man, very vocal about his faith, and he has been very public about his feelings about the seriousness of morality and righteousness. People who take their faith that seriously often take it literally, and unless someone actually asks Washington flat-out if he believes in the devil as a physical entity rather than a metaphorical one, we simply can't say for sure. But even assuming that he did mean it metaphorically, what we can say is that there are millions of people who do take it literally, and those are the people who are happy to put the blame for their failings and shortcomings on a scapegoat rather than taking ownership. Bringing up the devil in this context, even in a metaphorical context, allows for an "out" for someone to take, a finger to point. That's the lifelong issue I have always had with the concept.
He also mentioned that him and Perry had a private conversation with Smith during the Oscars that he didn't want to get into or talk about publicly. Maybe he gave a quick stern lecture to Will about the action he took with Chris, who knows, that was a conversation between those three gentleman. But if you expected Denzel to go out in public platform like T.D. Jakes Faith and Hollywood Summit event to chastise Will Smith and "throw him under the bus" he wasn't going to do that. Everybody had had their say and opinion on the matter and what Will Smith needs to do. Denzel is metaphorically saying Will had his lowest moment ("when the devil came for him") as a human being on live tv when he slapped Chris Rock which goes against everything about the public personality Will Smith represented since the late 80s. He had a poor lack of judgment and that is what Denzel is talking about using religious metaphor in front of a crowd/function that understands where he's coming from.
Denzel has been Will Smith's friend and mentor for 30+ years and he's probably given Smith a ton of advice over those years about navigating a life/career in Hollywood. I would've been more surprised if Denzel did actually chastise and condemn him in public just to satisfy some people's desires for to rake Smith through the coals.
I'm not saying Denzel Washington has to throw Smith under the bus, nor that I would ever expect him to. I know he and Smith are longtime friends and a public repudiation of that is certainly not in the cards. I'm just saying that I don't like it when people use the devil as a scapegoat for human action because it mitigates accountability and it's easy for someone to "sin" or "offend" again because they can just go back to that old adage of "the devil made me do it."
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