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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 10, 2022 4:03:41 GMT
Happy for Kidman. Fully deserves it and over Stewart too who was one-note and could not capture Diana at all in my humble opinion the way we grew up watching and loving Diana. Kidman did and then some for another figure we grew up watching and loving, so... very happy for her here.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 10, 2022 4:07:46 GMT
This will not be their only win. Book it. Welp I tried to warn them.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 10, 2022 4:09:33 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 10, 2022 4:31:51 GMT
Happy for Kidman. Fully deserves it and over Stewart too who was one-note and could not capture Diana at all in my humble opinion the way we grew up watching and loving Diana. Kidman did and then some for another figure we grew up watching and loving, so... very happy for her here. Kidman will win at AACTA, and I think she has a huge shot at winning SAG if she gets the nod. Kidman really could be looking at Oscar #2. She has the narrative, the respect and her performance clearly played brilliantly at industry screenings. Remember that standing ovation she got at the SAG screening?
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jan 10, 2022 4:47:46 GMT
Shout out to Will Smith, Nicole Kidman, and O Yeong-su for their victories tonight. O Yeong-su will be moving on to the next round.
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Post by mrimpossible on Jan 10, 2022 4:59:17 GMT
Nicole Kidman wasn't my choice but I'm happy she won just for the sh-t ton of unwarrented hate. She definitely had one of the most challenging roles an actor can have with playing a towering icon like Lucille Ball. I thought she captured her essence and spirit even with the makeup and direction going against her. Kidman is one of my favorite actresses and would not be at all disappointed if she won her second Oscar for this.
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Post by countjohn on Jan 10, 2022 5:34:42 GMT
Ughh at those acting winners. Kidman and Garfield were both full on bad, not even a case of there being better nominees available to win. Zegler had no business beating Haim. Only one of the leads I'm not going to complain about is Smith.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 10, 2022 5:43:33 GMT
Stewart losing isn't that surprising given the lack of support for her film but did it have to be Kidman? West Side Story and Power of the Dog just got huge boosts which is great, and I'm glad Belfast got something. Mostly great picks, and the bad ones like Garfield and "No Time to Die" were expected. I wish it had been televised.
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Post by akittystang on Jan 10, 2022 5:54:41 GMT
WTF, Kidman? She was good, but dear god, with Stewart and Chastain in the same list of nominees? Yeah, no. Kidman was brilliant and should be the frontrunner to win the Oscar, imho. She is a Globe favorite, but with starry names like Lady Gaga, Jessica Chastain and Kirsten Stewart as options, she was never a gimme to win here. It was always a performance that would play well with the industry. I could honestly see Kidman repeating at SAG (assuming she gets the nod). Well, I'm a big fan so I won't be groaning if she ends up winning the Oscar; I'll just pretend it was for Birth. Damn, I thought Stewart was going to sweep award season once I finished watching Spencer. Kristen's path to the win may be harder than some may think it is. Hell, didn't The Crown have a ridiculous number of nominations for the latest season but lost every single one at BAFTA's TV awards? Meanwhile it absolutely steamrolled everything at The Emmys. Maybe this is just me making a leap, someone from the UK feel free to correct me, but could it be due to the fact that whole show makes the Royal Family look like absolute garbage (for the most part)? I'm not sure how much overlap there is with that voting body and the film branch but the more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm wondering if Stewart is going to be the nominee that peaked too early in a film that maybe too divisive for this body of voters. Nicole Kidman wasn't my choice but I'm happy she won just for the sh-t ton of unwarrented hate. She definitely had one of the most challenging roles an actor can have with playing a towering icon like Lucille Ball. I thought she captured her essence and spirit even with the makeup and direction going against her. Kidman is one of my favorite actresses and would not be at all disappointed if she won her second Oscar for this. And virtually everyone that has that reaction, suggests Debra Messing as an alternative. Debra Messing could barely handle Will & Grace. Nicole did quite a good job, she wasn't my choice in this set of nominees, but the level of hate toward her for this movie was way over the top.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 10, 2022 6:08:39 GMT
All the little pathetic brown-nosing Kidman sycophants better get all that jizzing out of their system tonight, cuz this is as good as it's gonna get for their Little Nicky. Stewart is 100% gonna ANNIHILATE Kidman in all the upcoming contests, all the way to the Oscars. That one-note cartoonish impression is NOT getting your Queen a 2nd Oscar. So sad! You know you're desperate when you're reduced to celebrating a fucking Globes win after the year they've had! 🤣
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 10, 2022 6:09:27 GMT
Damn, I thought Stewart was going to sweep award season once I finished watching Spencer. Kristen's path to the win may be harder than some may think it is. Hell, didn't The Crown have a ridiculous number of nominations for the latest season but lost every single one at BAFTA's TV awards? Meanwhile it absolutely steamrolled everything at The Emmys. Honestly I think it's safe to assume that the BAFTA tv voters actually have seen the shows and vote accordingly. They rarely namecheck the winners.
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Post by akittystang on Jan 10, 2022 6:27:42 GMT
Damn, I thought Stewart was going to sweep award season once I finished watching Spencer. Kristen's path to the win may be harder than some may think it is. Hell, didn't The Crown have a ridiculous number of nominations for the latest season but lost every single one at BAFTA's TV awards? Meanwhile it absolutely steamrolled everything at The Emmys. Honestly I think it's safe to assume that the BAFTA tv voters actually have seen the shows and vote accordingly. They rarely namecheck the winners. Well, my bigger point was that the unflattering depiction of the royal family may've irked some voters, and if they weren't happy with that, and if there's overlap in those two voting bodies, then those same voters who were irked by The Crown will utterly loathe Spencer. Just a wild guess and I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by jasonjoliepitt on Jan 10, 2022 10:38:50 GMT
WTF, Kidman? She was good, but dear god, with Stewart and Chastain in the same list of nominees? Yeah, no. Amen to that! I haven’t seen Gaga but out of the nominees, Chastain, Colman and Stewart were FAR BETTER! A very uninspiring pick! I sincerely hope Kidman misses out on the Oscar nomination as there are far more deserving candidates like Penelope Cruz and Tessa Thompson.
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Post by flasuss on Jan 10, 2022 11:31:56 GMT
I see posters reacting here like an award that can't even get celebrities to attend nor TV coverage matters the slightest. Not only winning the GG this year influences positively, might even be a net negative- nobody wants to be known as "the favorite of the racists".
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 10, 2022 12:43:17 GMT
I see posters reacting here like an award that can't even get celebrities to attend nor TV coverage matters the slightest. Not only winning the GG this year influences positively, might even be a net negative- nobody wants to be known as "the favorite of the racists". It looks like the only ones here who actually think Kidman's win means she is likely winning the Oscar, are Nicole stans.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 10, 2022 14:36:01 GMT
I see posters reacting here like an award that can't even get celebrities to attend nor TV coverage matters the slightest. Not only winning the GG this year influences positively, might even be a net negative- nobody wants to be known as "the favorite of the racists". It looks like the only ones here who actually think Kidman's win means she is likely winning the Oscar, are Nicole stans. Yup, but especially THE #1 Stan. The guy who's so obsessed, delusional, & unhinged that he wouldn't just dye his hair blonde like the "real" Stan Mitchell, but also get breast implants & enough botox to resemble a younger Joan Rivers. Scary!
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Post by DanQuixote on Jan 10, 2022 14:56:00 GMT
I keep having doubts about Drive My Car and it keeps proving me wrong.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 10, 2022 14:56:49 GMT
Lol! Jesus Christ, people here are bitter
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 15:15:07 GMT
I do think this could have been major for Kidman had this been a "normal" year for the HFPA...
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Jan 10, 2022 15:16:41 GMT
I suspect some of their acting choices might have been motivated by an intention to clean their image, but still (emphasis on this 'still'), it's nice to see MJ Rodriguez finally winning something. Even if I think she was better in seasons 1 and 2, I'll pretend this is for her whole work in that show.
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Post by stephen on Jan 10, 2022 15:32:28 GMT
I do think this could have been major for Kidman had this been a "normal" year for the HFPA... I think we also have to treat Kidman winning here as general favoritism within the awards body (this is her fifth win with them), same as Viola winning SAG last year. Some people are just favorites for certain awards bodies. It's definitely a notch in the belt but to declare her the frontrunner right now is specious, especially if the rumors about Neon not deigning to send HFPA voters screeners of Spencer are true (to say nothing of that blind item posted above). What it does show is vulnerability for Chastain, who is one of the only two nominees to actively acknowledge the Globes (guess who the other one was). Now if Kidman can follow up a Globe win with a SAG victory, that's a deadly combo.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 10, 2022 15:35:10 GMT
I see posters reacting here like an award that can't even get celebrities to attend nor TV coverage matters the slightest. Not only winning the GG this year influences positively, might even be a net negative- nobody wants to be known as "the favorite of the racists". The Globes were trending worldwide based on just a Twitter ceremony. It's still trending now. The results have been covered by pretty much every major media outlet. It's still a huge, huge thing, and I think that coverage matters. Generally speaking, other industry awards are lemmings and the whole industry will be aware who won the Globes. Also, nothing really stepped up to replace the Globes as an Oscar bellwether, so I don't think it's influence will depreciate as much as expected (even I expected it to matter less this year, but the wall to wall coverage shows of the winners announcement shows it's still a big deal). I guess the Critics Choice wanted to be that new bellwether, but the pandemic screwed that. Cancelled their ceremony...they might not even have one. So they can't set the pace with stars giving televised speeches. No one stepped up to replace the Globes. I feel like the Globes lucked out with the pandemic spike. Lots of award season shows/events will be cancelled (like CC or Palm Springs) or done without in person ceremonies. This type of thing almost feels like the new normal. Also, arrogant as the Globes are in their efforts to remain relevant, I think they are doing what they need to ensure their survival and will probably be back in business next year on NBC or whatever with all the stars on the red carpet (provided the pandemic isn't still an issue). It seems like most of the studios were covertly still campaigning with the HFPA, despite public statements that they wouldn't. Cynical as fuck, but that's Hollywood . Looks like they made a pretty conscious effort to dispel the "racism" cloud with their winners at least (they apparently have some black members now as well ). The Underground Railroad winning Best Limited series would probably have never happened before this year. And acting winners like Will Smith, Ariana Debose, Rachel Zegler , Michaela Jae Rodriguez, O Yeung Su....it's pretty obvious they are making sure diversity is something they can no longer be accused of ignoring in what they reward.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 10, 2022 15:37:55 GMT
I do think this could have been major for Kidman had this been a "normal" year for the HFPA... I think we also have to treat Kidman winning here as general favoritism within the awards body (this is her fifth win with them), same as Viola winning SAG last year. Some people are just favorites for certain awards bodies. It's definitely a notch in the belt but to declare her the frontrunner right now is specious, especially if the rumors about Neon not deigning to send HFPA voters screeners of Spencer are true (to say nothing of that blind item posted above). What it does show is vulnerability for Chastain, who is one of the only two nominees to actively acknowledge the Globes (guess who the other one was). Now if Kidman can follow up a Globe win with a SAG victory, that's a deadly combo. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was one of those categories where a different person wins every precursor like last year.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 10, 2022 15:42:41 GMT
I do think this could have been major for Kidman had this been a "normal" year for the HFPA... I think it is still major. The results are still trending worldwide on Twitter. Studios are openly thanking the Globes for their wins as are several stars, and receiving no backlash for it. I think the Globes are still an Oscar bellwether event this year despite everything. Shows how hard it is to finish off an organisation with their history.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 10, 2022 15:49:59 GMT
I see posters reacting here like an award that can't even get celebrities to attend nor TV coverage matters the slightest. Not only winning the GG this year influences positively, might even be a net negative- nobody wants to be known as "the favorite of the racists". It looks like the only ones here who actually think Kidman's win means she is likely winning the Oscar, are Nicole stans. But if there is negative impact to winning the Globe, that would apply to ALL the Globe winners - including Debose, whom you were stanning.
The bitterness is more with Kristen Stewart's stans, who were convinced she was going to sweep. But she always going to have a harder time with the industry awards.
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