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Post by quetee on Sept 14, 2021 6:22:20 GMT
I don’t care about who wins I just want Ben Foster to finally be nominated. Yeah, I just saw the reviews for his latest movie and I have no idea what he needs to do to score a nod. He keeps getting ignored.
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Post by speeders on Sept 14, 2021 10:43:08 GMT
I don’t care about who wins I just want Ben Foster to finally be nominated. Yeah, I just saw the reviews for his latest movie and I have no idea what he needs to do to score a nod. He keeps getting ignored. I'm not one of his die hard fans on this board but I still cannot get over how he was snubbed for Leave No Trace.
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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 14, 2021 11:43:04 GMT
Yeah, I just saw the reviews for his latest movie and I have no idea what he needs to do to score a nod. He keeps getting ignored. I'm not one of his die hard fans on this board but I still cannot get over how he was snubbed for Leave No Trace. Sadly the film was too small/under-seen/under-campaigned, and came out too early.
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Post by stephen on Sept 14, 2021 12:36:21 GMT
I'm just glad my boy's getting good ink, even if I expect his film won't go too far. But I'm glad to hear good notices for its cinematography, too.
But yes, in a season of Cumberbatches and Washingtons and Smiths and Dinklages, I'm conductor on the Foster train.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Sept 14, 2021 13:49:22 GMT
I'm just glad my boy's getting good ink, even if I expect his film won't go too far. But I'm glad to hear good notices for its cinematography, too. But yes, in a season of Cumberbatches and Washingtons and Smiths and Dinklages, I'm conductor on the Foster train.Then I’m the owner of the entire train.
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Post by morton on Sept 20, 2021 3:36:06 GMT
Will Peter Dinklage have some competition for the newbie spot?
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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 20, 2021 3:39:21 GMT
Stranger things have happened, but I would be pretty surprised. If there is a newbie it'll probably just be Dinklage, but I don't think we're getting one this year anyway tbh.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Sept 20, 2021 4:06:29 GMT
Will Peter Dinklage have some competition for the newbie spot? There isn’t just set “slots” but I doubt it. Would be thrilled for him though. He’s always great. Would love to see him win something like NSFC though.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 20, 2021 4:33:51 GMT
Will Peter Dinklage have some competition for the newbie spot? I have Dinklage in atm for the reasons I talked about - this role resonates (Oscar winning & Oscar nodded role in the past), everyone leaves the movie talking about him first - not the costumes, music or sets - and his movie plays well with crowds AND ends well / leaves on a good note apparently (a big plus) ........oh and it's different too - he sings, it's a romance....... But he's 4th imo right now behind Smith, I'mCumbyDammit, DiCap........and there are 5 guys looking to boot him out at least too - Cooper, Washington, Driver, Phoenix (but A24 is burying this pic so far), and Garfield who I think is a sleeper.....and yeah that's potentially 3 Netflix guys so maybe not Collins would be behind all of them to even get to Dinklage imo - unless a really shrewd campaign is run for him - I'm sure he's great but Dinklage just checks all the boxes - if not to actually get in ..........well enough to be 4th ..........as of September 20th anyway ........
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 20, 2021 5:41:55 GMT
I really don't get how Collins Jr. didn't get nommed for Capote. IMO he was even better than Hoffman, so how Keener got in for her nothing performance and he didn't will always baffle me. That said, you can't be coming off some obscure move expecting to be nominated. It happens sometimes, but not often.
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Post by franklin on Sept 20, 2021 9:16:06 GMT
I still have no idea if Dornan goes Lead or Supporting, so these are my predictions if they put him in Lead.
1. Will Smith (King Richard) 2. Benedict Cumberbatch (The Power of The Dog) 3. Leonardo DiCaprio (Don't Look Up) 4. Denzel Washington (The Tragedy of Macbeth) 5. Jamie Dornan (Belfast)
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 22, 2021 15:27:13 GMT
Just a rumor but this wackadoodle isn't going to give up his Oscar by being a dumbass right? Weird "rumor" story .....
Gregory Ellwood - The Playlist 🎬 @thegregorye well, it appears as though Jada is vaxed... iykyk Will Smith was peculiarly missing at the fully-vaxxed-only Telluride Film Festival a few weeks ago. His absence was odd, especially since his performance in Reinaldo Marcus Green’s “King Richard” is said to be an Oscar frontrunner in the Best Actor category. All I’m going to say is this, and I’m purely basing it on a rumour that’s been circling around town; if Smith aims to maintain the Oscar buzz he built at the Telluride Film Festival, then he sure as hell better have a clean campaign free of controversies. That means making sure you got your two vaccine jabs because, otherwise, especially in Hollywood, you will be considered a COVID-spreading pariah and will be shunned by the entire industry.www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/9/xi6ajgzvsgefj7gho4ybtmphaxybok
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 22, 2021 15:44:23 GMT
maybe he read Nicki Minaj's tweet about her brother's cousin's friend's swollen balls
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Post by stephen on Sept 22, 2021 15:57:25 GMT
It just struck me that since 2001, any time Denzel Washington has been in direct competition for an Oscar, there has been some controversy surrounding one of his competitors.
2001: Russell Crowe and the BAFTA incident. 2012: Joaquin Phoenix's anti-Oscar screed. Not so much a controversy in light of the others, but still. 2016: Casey Affleck. 2017: James Franco.
And now here we are again.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 22, 2021 16:36:17 GMT
It just struck me that since 2001, any time Denzel Washington has been in direct competition for an Oscar, there has been some controversy surrounding one of his competitors. 2001: Russell Crowe and the BAFTA incident.
2012: Joaquin Phoenix's anti-Oscar screed. Not so much a controversy in light of the others, but still. 2016: Casey Affleck.
2017: James Franco. And now here we are again. I've talked about how for when competed for the "win" '92, '01 and '16 his 2 losses were the best things that could have happened to him for his legacy if /when he wins his 3rd (maybe this year?). If he had won in '92 he'd be seen as a kind of monster who cost Pacino another Oscar - when everyone had Pac winning - and in '16 he'd have won just off one single big precursor (SAG) when everyone had Affleck winning........and a lot of people think he won in '01 solely for the BAFTA incident (that's arguable and less clear than the other two). ................There would be some kind of a "taint" - in some way - on 3 wins (out 4) People who argue him getting "ripped off" in those years don't understand how controversial against him those wins would have been perceived .......but now to win in '21 for ToM would be an astonishing flex of actor swagger and power - just the nomination is a major flex as I've said many times........ Now this maybe doesn't seem that way atm because well he doesn't have 3 - but when he gets it - 3 for ToM or something else it plays out kinda perfectly actually.
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Post by franklin on Sept 22, 2021 18:01:37 GMT
I don't believe this rumor.
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Post by hilderic on Sept 22, 2021 19:06:10 GMT
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Post by flasuss on Sept 22, 2021 19:45:40 GMT
Just a rumor but this wackadoodle isn't going to give up his Oscar by being a dumbass right? Weird "rumor" story .....
Gregory Ellwood - The Playlist 🎬 @thegregorye well, it appears as though Jada is vaxed... iykyk Will Smith was peculiarly missing at the fully-vaxxed-only Telluride Film Festival a few weeks ago. His absence was odd, especially since his performance in Reinaldo Marcus Green’s “King Richard” is said to be an Oscar frontrunner in the Best Actor category. All I’m going to say is this, and I’m purely basing it on a rumour that’s been circling around town; if Smith aims to maintain the Oscar buzz he built at the Telluride Film Festival, then he sure as hell better have a clean campaign free of controversies. That means making sure you got your two vaccine jabs because, otherwise, especially in Hollywood, you will be considered a COVID-spreading pariah and will be shunned by the entire industry.www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/9/xi6ajgzvsgefj7gho4ybtmphaxybok Like I said before, seems inevitable he'll get involved in controversy, real or made up.
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Post by flasuss on Sept 22, 2021 19:46:54 GMT
It just struck me that since 2001, any time Denzel Washington has been in direct competition for an Oscar, there has been some controversy surrounding one of his competitors. 2001: Russell Crowe and the BAFTA incident. 2012: Joaquin Phoenix's anti-Oscar screed. Not so much a controversy in light of the others, but still. 2016: Casey Affleck. 2017: James Franco. And now here we are again. That stuff happens every year with someone, Denzel in the running or not.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 23, 2021 4:25:42 GMT
Nah it won’t play perfectly if Denzel wins for TTOM. You’ll still have the people who strongly feel Denzel should not be playing MacBeth because of his race and argue that it’s cultural appropriation and double standards..even if it is Shakespeare and that color blind casting in Shakespeare stage productions/films has gone on for years..they won’t care..it will still be controversial..against Denzel. You can already see it in the YT comments for the trailer..trolls or not..even Franklin has brought it up on here recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s used as negative campaigning against Denzel. I can already see the op-ed pieces from certain publications. So yes there will be controversy if Denzel wins an Oscar for playing MacBeth.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 23, 2021 9:15:47 GMT
Nah it won’t play perfectly if Denzel wins for TTOM. You’ll still have the people who strongly feel Denzel should not be playing MacBeth because of his race and argue that it’s cultural appropriation and double standards..even if it is Shakespeare and that color blind casting in Shakespeare stage productions/films has gone on for years..they won’t care..it will still be controversial..against Denzel. You can already see it in the YT comments for the trailer..trolls or not..even Franklin has brought it up on here recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s used as negative campaigning against Denzel. I can already see the op-ed pieces from certain publications. So yes there will be controversy if Denzel wins an Oscar for playing MacBeth. Well to be fair..........I did say "kinda" perfectly He can't change the color of his skin or the role he played (?)..........so I think everyone can see the key difference there: The "controversy" argument you raised is just based on him - and race which is disgusting, yes - but the other 3 years "if" he had won '92 (L) /'01 (W) /'16 (L) - were based on the people who were up against him (ie a once in a lifetime movie legend, a guy who melted down / threw a phone , and an "assumed" sexual abuser).................the fact that he lost the key precursors and would have been an underdog winner in every case.........by comparison.......
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 24, 2021 18:46:50 GMT
Ok, so what do we got NOW - 3 locks as of 9 /24 Smith, Washington, I'm CumbyDammit or does anyone question those 3 as locks and wants to tell me "no locks on September 24"...........to me DiCap is extremely likely ........and I have already said Dinklage makes sense to me (Previous Oscar winning role, he sings, it ends great apparently)........but Dinklage is begging to be 86'd out of that spot: Cooper, Driver (HoG), Garfield ........I think the positive reaction to Macbeth just knocked out Joaquin tbh - A24 isn't going to care about pushing him and it has an early Nov release date........he's knocked out today more than anybody else
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Post by stephen on Sept 24, 2021 19:13:08 GMT
I agree in that I think we've got a solid three: Washington, Smith, and Cumberbatch, and I'd rank them that way as well just by what feels right. I feel like the narrative of a third win for Washington has been in the air for a while and Fences showed that if he'd been in a fractured race, he could've pulled it out. And the critics are seemingly going hard for his performance here. I've said before that I feel like Washington would need the critics in a way he's never really had to before to take his third win, the way Day-Lewis and McDormand did. And I know that we're at the reactionary phase after a screening, but the hype is powerfully strong right now. It just depends on whether A24 puts their backs into it -- but it's a Coen/McDormand/Washington combo, and really, that should be right up their alley even with the reported weirdness.
Smith feels like he's comfortable and will probably have a lot of the steakeaters behind him: a well-liked actor in a comeback narrative with a potentially popular film. Would not count him out even if Washington is a critics' favorite. Smith is well-networked himself in the industry and he doesn't have two Oscars to his name.
Cumberbatch feels like a solid third-placer right now. His performance will likely garner a lot of critics' mentions but I feel like Campion is the one who will likely be reaping the real lion's share of individual notices. He could surge forward if the film is well-received and becomes a strong favorite for the top prize, but I just feel like Washington and Smith have more pros in their columns right now than he does.
The other two spots, I think they're going to be in flux for much of the season. Cooper should theoretically be safe in a late-breaker from a Best Picture/Director winner and Cooper is obviously beloved by the Academy and he's got the PTA this year as well. I feel like the Dinklage buzz will go down quick but he might get a random SAG nomination that people think is going to materialize into an Oscar nod, but then he misses it in favor of someone with a stronger film. Jamie Dornan could wind up going supporting. Clifton Collins, Jr. feels like he could be the Demian Bichir of the year and I would keep an eye on him. No idea whether Ben Foster, that perennial Oscar snub, is even going to bow this year or if he's even got a distributor. Phoenix, I feel like Joker gave them the out to reward him and now they don't have to court a guy who clearly doesn't give a shit about them (and they got to have their cake and eat it with him). Garfield is apparently a thing but I have no idea what's going on with that.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Sept 24, 2021 19:41:27 GMT
My gut feeling is that it's Denzel's year. I'm thinking Phoenix will get some of the critics awards but will ultimately miss out in the end.
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 24, 2021 21:38:40 GMT
It'll be funny if Denzel blocks Will for this. Will will have become a casualty of too casual an approach to cultivating a filmography (hence being universally liked but not universally respected on the highest level). I still have Smith as the frontrunner, but the reviews/reaction so far for Macbeth exceeds expectations.
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