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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 13, 2021 19:50:36 GMT
The more Cage pops up everywhere the more he fits the narrative of the critics darling that misses an Oscar nom. definitely, and Nyong'o, Hawke and Sandler weren't just showing up everywhere with the critics, they were dominating.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 19:53:13 GMT
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Post by stephen on Dec 13, 2021 19:58:15 GMT
definitely, and Nyong'o, Hawke and Sandler weren't just showing up everywhere with the critics, they were dominating. Yeah, Cage is a weird one. He's showing up lots of places but winning nothing. As you said this, he just won Vegas. And yes, I know that doesn't mean anything, but still, keep saying he's winning nothing and let's ride this hog pig to Oscar glory.
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Post by wilcinema on Dec 13, 2021 19:58:18 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago.
I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire.
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 19:59:54 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago. I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire. I agree. I don't get it.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 13, 2021 20:01:15 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago. I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire. But did anyone ever think Smith would be the critics frontrunner? To me he seems more like a Redmayne - the more obvious industry pick. That is, if he indeed becomes the Oscar frontrunner.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 13, 2021 20:06:19 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago. I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire. Smith won NBR, which is bigger than any regional. And nobody thought Smith would be a favorite to pick up a lot of critics wins. He's obviously someone whose film, performance and star status is more likely to play better to the industry awards
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Post by wilcinema on Dec 13, 2021 20:08:07 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago. I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire. But did anyone ever think Smith would be the critics frontrunner? To me he seems more like a Redmayne - the more obvious industry pick. That is, if he indeed becomes the Oscar frontrunner. He was never going to be a critics favorite but nobody even expected he wouldn’t win any of these awards. Plus, Will Smith isn’t sweeping the televised ones, that leaves room for an upset.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 13, 2021 20:13:23 GMT
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Post by Allenism on Dec 13, 2021 20:21:51 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 13, 2021 20:30:46 GMT
don't know who the actor frontrunner is at this point but smith missing the regionals means very little. We have to wait for the industry awards for more clarity. It could be another weird one like 2020 where there weren't any clean sweeps but if it's a typical season, it's good news for Smith that Zellweger, Phoenix, and Malek didn't have that much success with the critics before emerging as uncontested frontrunners.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 13, 2021 20:37:51 GMT
The more Cage pops up everywhere the more he fits the narrative of the critics darling that misses an Oscar nom. definitely, and Nyong'o, Hawke and Sandler weren't just showing up everywhere with the critics, they were dominating. Well, Hawke and Sandler (both greatttt perfs) didn't get SAG or BAFTA and that was pretty much the killer. Cage has gotta make either of those and don't forget Pig is a UK coproduction!!
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 13, 2021 20:39:13 GMT
Alright, I'll play. It's pretty boring outside of the #5 choice.
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I could also see Dinklage, and maybe even DiCaprio sneaking in, but I'm less certain about their placement.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 13, 2021 20:43:02 GMT
Alright, I'll play. It's pretty boring outside of the #5 choice. Cumberbatch Garfield NishijimaSmith Washington I could also see Dinklage, and maybe even DiCaprio sneaking in, but I'm less certain about their placement. Yeah, Nishijima seems primed to be that out of left-field choice AMPAS goes for that none of the pundits see coming and takes the last slot. Lead actor getting rave reviews for a Best International Feature Film contender, and is getting several critics awards mentions. Major dark horse.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 13, 2021 20:44:44 GMT
There’s something iffy about Will Smith’s frontrunner status. He hasn’t won a single regional so far, and he’s even missed a nomination at Chicago. I still say he takes SAG, but Cumberbatch is emerging as the critics favorite, and he might very well take Critics Choice as well as BAFTA obviously. This will go down to the wire. I agree. I don't get it. What don’t you get?
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 13, 2021 20:46:03 GMT
Alright, I'll play. It's pretty boring outside of the #5 choice. Cumberbatch Garfield NishijimaSmith Washington I could also see Dinklage, and maybe even DiCaprio sneaking in, but I'm less certain about their placement. Yeah, Nishijima seems primed to be that out of left-field choice AMPAS goes for that none of the pundits see coming and takes the last slot. Lead actor getting rave reviews for a Best International Feature Film contender, and is getting several critics awards mentions. Major dark horse. It also feels like the kind of performance the actors of the academy branch would go for, and would make them look "intelligent" or "smart!" Feels primed for a real breakout.
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Post by filmnoir on Dec 13, 2021 20:47:50 GMT
But did anyone ever think Smith would be the critics frontrunner? To me he seems more like a Redmayne - the more obvious industry pick. That is, if he indeed becomes the Oscar frontrunner. He was never going to be a critics favorite but nobody even expected he wouldn’t win any of these awards. Plus, Will Smith isn’t sweeping the televised ones, that leaves room for an upset. Will Smith was never expected to be the critics favorite. In fact, most Oscar Best Actor winners of the last few years were not.
He should be fine as long as the industry awards show up.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2021 20:48:50 GMT
But did anyone ever think Smith would be the critics frontrunner? To me he seems more like a Redmayne - the more obvious industry pick. That is, if he indeed becomes the Oscar frontrunner. He was never going to be a critics favorite but nobody even expected he wouldn’t win any of these awards. Plus, Will Smith isn’t sweeping the televised ones, that leaves room for an upset. Part of the reason he's that kind of favorite though is he isn't villainous like Cumby or Washington's Macbeth - who we assume are 2nd and 3rd........although Garfield is not missing a nod imo and I think he's 3rd actually (but without a pucher's chance to pull the upset like Washington has). I would love to see Cumby win - I love the performance - but for Smith it comes down to the Globe (slightly, that award doesn't matter but it would be good to pick it up) and especially SAG ..............because Cumby I think has a real inside track to BAFTA and a bunch more critics awards still to get. The Smith role is like a checkbox of actor-ish things to play - funny, sad, moving, tough, a loser, a winner, committed, (almost) murderous, sensitive, dominates his movie, good husband, great father, a bit of a sociopath, anti-racist............I mean it's ridiculous - no one else has that of the competetitors........now I wouldn't vote for him personally ............... but it's just built for the industry to reward - it's a star turn much like Pitt was........but amplified with far more things to play. He could lose but I think he's #1 right up until they open that envelope ...........unless he loses SAG I mean
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Post by flasuss on Dec 14, 2021 0:05:36 GMT
I'm not really entirely sold on Smith either. He reminds me of Stallone for Creed, that was treated as frontrunner because he was a major star without an Oscar with a long successful carreer that would win the industry prizes for being seen as overdue and there was no way he'd lose to someone likr Rylance for such an understated role, and yet... Of course, Smith's movie is a much stronger contender, but Denzel and Cumberbatch are at least on paper stronger contenders than Rylance as well.
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Post by DanQuixote on Dec 14, 2021 0:32:06 GMT
I wish I shared your faith in Nishijima guys, I really do.
1. Will Smith, King Richard 2. Benedict Cumberbatch, The Power of the Dog 3. Denzel Washington, The Tragedy of Macbeth 4. Andrew Garfield, Tick, Tick… Boom! 5. Leonardo DiCaprio, Don’t Look Up 6. Peter Dinklage, Cyrano 7. Nicolas Cage, Pig 8. Javier Bardem, Being the Ricardos 9. Cooper Hoffman, Licorice Pizza 10. Joaquin Phoenix, C’mon C’mon
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Post by franklin on Dec 14, 2021 0:44:58 GMT
I'm betting that SAG will dig Don’t Look Up, so i'll say:
1. Smith 2. Cumberbatch 3. Garfield 4. Washington 5. DiCaprio/Dinklage/Cage
Until SAG nominations aren't out, i won't consider DiCaprio's chances dead.
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 14, 2021 7:57:45 GMT
Haha what, we're predicting Nishijima now?? None of the actors from Parasite could even get any traction.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 14, 2021 10:58:02 GMT
Haha what, we're predicting Nishijima now?? None of the actors from Parasite could even get any traction. Folks are bored, I suppose!
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 14, 2021 13:02:30 GMT
Alright, I'll play. It's pretty boring outside of the #5 choice. Cumberbatch Garfield NishijimaSmith Washington I could also see Dinklage, and maybe even DiCaprio sneaking in, but I'm less certain about their placement. Yeah, Nishijima seems primed to be that out of left-field choice AMPAS goes for that none of the pundits see coming and takes the last slot. Lead actor getting rave reviews for a Best International Feature Film contender, and is getting several critics awards mentions. Major dark horse. If all these couldn't help a well known actor like Mikkelsen last year, how does an unknown like Nishijima even stand a chance??
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 14, 2021 16:16:34 GMT
Yeah, Nishijima seems primed to be that out of left-field choice AMPAS goes for that none of the pundits see coming and takes the last slot. Lead actor getting rave reviews for a Best International Feature Film contender, and is getting several critics awards mentions. Major dark horse. If all these couldn't help a well known actor like Mikkelsen last year, how does an unknown like Nishijima even stand a chance?? I'm predicting Nishijima because I believe Drive My Car is going to be strong film overall with AMPAS (even moreso than Another Round was last year even though it won Best International Feature Film). Along with Power of The Dog its one of the most acclaimed films of the year and I think critics' passion for this film in pushing it will at least get the attention of the AMPAS's various branches to check it out to see what the fuss is about. I think Drive My Car will have enough support with AMPAS to push Nishijima to the #5 slot and he gets to fill the "newcomer" slot that is usually the case with the final 5 for Best Actor. I don't think Dinklage is going to make into Best Actor this year, even though I predict him to get SAG. DiCaprio? Cage? Bardem? Cooper? I don't know...Nishijima is my NGNG out of left field prediction.
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