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Post by morton on Oct 5, 2021 14:04:42 GMT
I’m still excited to see this. While I’m sure it’s flawed, in retrospect I think Venice was a bad place to screen it, but I understand because TIFF still doesn’t have the red carpet attention that Venice was able to attract due to COVID. So maybe it was worth the trade off of bad reviews for the first public appearance of Bennifer.
Still scratching my head about Comer going lead though. She may not have gotten in Supporting, but I think she had a much better chance there.
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Post by stabcaesar on Oct 5, 2021 14:11:36 GMT
Not surprised by the poor review. The trailer looks pretty bad already.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 5, 2021 14:52:54 GMT
I’m still excited to see this. While I’m sure it’s flawed, in retrospect I think Venice was a bad place to screen it, but I understand because TIFF still doesn’t have the red carpet attention that Venice was able to attract due to COVID. So maybe it was worth the trade off of bad reviews for the first public appearance of Bennifer. Still scratching my head about Comer going lead though. She may not have gotten in Supporting, but I think she had a much better chance there. It's a Ridley Scott movie. I've seen all of his films, even the stinkers. Irregardless of how it turns out, I'm still interested in it alone for the technical aspect of it all. Comer going lead is weird indeed, and she's going to be left out as a result, but I have a feeling that Disney & Fox probably thought that her performance was way too major not to be supporting. Still, it feels like a huge potential missed opportunity.
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Post by stephen on Oct 9, 2021 17:18:41 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Oct 9, 2021 17:52:42 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune. I don’t think it’s impossible this becomes a BP nominee with 10 slots this year.
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Post by stephen on Oct 9, 2021 17:55:37 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune. I don’t think it’s impossible this becomes a BP nominee with 10 slots this year. It's definitely in the cards.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 9, 2021 22:15:35 GMT
What's been interesting to me with these new batch of reviews, is how much Affleck is getting praised. I don't see The Tender Bar going anywhere, so honestly, I think he has a better chance of getting in for this.
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Post by stephen on Oct 9, 2021 22:38:09 GMT
What's been interesting to me with these new batch of reviews, is how much Affleck is getting praised. I don't see The Tender Bar going anywhere, so honestly, I think he has a better chance of getting in for this. I noticed that, too. Imagine Affleck getting buzz for two performances in a year and still getting shafted.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 9, 2021 23:42:37 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune. It's on 74% on Rotten Tomatoes with 27 reviews and 65 on Metacritic with 14 reviews. These are not particularly fantastic or typical BP level scores, and there still aren't anywhere enough reviews out there to know if it will even stay fresh on RT (it probably will, but it might just be barely). These are completely average scores, and there still aren't that many reviews in totality. The way you were talking, I was thinking there were at least now over a 100 reviews on RT and it was in the 80's or 90's on RT. So yeah, it's kinda hold your horses on this one....
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Post by stephen on Oct 10, 2021 0:20:38 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune. It's on 74% on Rotten Tomatoes with 27 reviews and 65 on Metacritic with 14 reviews. These are not particularly fantastic or typical BP level scores, and there still aren't anywhere enough reviews out there to know if it will even stay fresh on RT (it probably will, but it might just be barely). These are completely average scores, and there still aren't that many reviews in totality. The way you were talking, I was thinking there were at least now over a 100 reviews on RT and it was in the 80's or 90's on RT. So yeah, it's kinda hold your horses on this one.... I'm not predicting it as a top five contender for Picture or anything, but there seemingly aren't a whole lot of big tech players this year, and it is high profile enough that it's in contention for writing and at least one acting category (Comer), and it's not inconceivable that Scott (who has a great track record with technical categories) can get it in several below-the-lines, and the fact he's got two contenders this year could serve him well. We've seen films with worse reviews and responses win Best Picture (and for what it's worth, I've seen a fair amount of pundits and reviewers speak about the film more positively since its Venice bow, and one of them stated he felt the reason it got the reaction it did there was due to most of the big publications having left the festival by the time it premiered), but what I'm thinking is that in a year where we're set for ten nominees, The Last Duel could have technical muscle to push it over the top into that bottom half of the field.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 10, 2021 0:58:39 GMT
They really should just push Comer Supporting. I'm worried Lead will be too strong for her to muscle her way in, especially with the rumours of Balfe going Lead as well.
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Post by stephen on Oct 10, 2021 1:21:11 GMT
They really should just push Comer Supporting. I'm worried Lead will be too strong for her to muscle her way in, especially with the rumours of Balfe going Lead as well. Yeah, I have no idea what the hell's going on in Belfast's camp.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 10, 2021 1:47:00 GMT
They really should just push Comer Supporting. I'm worried Lead will be too strong for her to muscle her way in, especially with the rumours of Balfe going Lead as well. Yeah, I have no idea what the hell's going on in Belfast's camp. What is extra weird, is that the same rumour says that Dornan would be going Supporting. Not sure why they wouldn't push them both Lead, or both Supporting. Seems that they're prioritising Dornan and possibly Dench winning, over a Balfe win.
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Post by stephen on Oct 10, 2021 1:51:53 GMT
Yeah, I have no idea what the hell's going on in Belfast's camp. What is extra weird, is that the same rumour says that Dornan would be going Supporting. Not sure why they wouldn't push them both Lead, or both Supporting. Seems that they're prioritising Dornan and possibly Dench winning, over a Balfe win. It seems they're wanting to bank on Dench winning a second Oscar as a career-capper, but come on, that's pretty much how she got her first. I don't think they're in that much of a rush to anoint her with a second, especially as the reviews didn't seem to (at least from what I'd read) single her out as a highlight. The move seems (to me) to position Balfe and Dornan in the supporting categories, and then if the film does well, get Hinds and Dench in as coattails. Balfe's in danger of missing entirely if she runs lead, and I think she has a higher win equity than Dench would. But that's me.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 10, 2021 1:53:39 GMT
What is extra weird, is that the same rumour says that Dornan would be going Supporting. Not sure why they wouldn't push them both Lead, or both Supporting. Seems that they're prioritising Dornan and possibly Dench winning, over a Balfe win. It seems they're wanting to bank on Dench winning a second Oscar as a career-capper, but come on, that's pretty much how she got her first. I don't think they're in that much of a rush to anoint her with a second, especially as the reviews didn't seem to (at least from what I'd read) single her out as a highlight. The move seems (to me) to position Balfe and Dornan in the supporting categories, and then if the film does well, get Hinds and Dench in as coattails. Balfe's in danger of missing entirely if she runs lead, and I think she has a higher win equity than Dench would. But that's me. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by JangoB on Oct 10, 2021 12:36:29 GMT
I'm not predicting it as a top five contender for Picture or anything, but there seemingly aren't a whole lot of big tech players this year, and it is high profile enough that it's in contention for writing and at least one acting category (Comer), and it's not inconceivable that Scott ( who has a great track record with technical categories) can get it in several below-the-lines, and the fact he's got two contenders this year could serve him well. We've seen films with worse reviews and responses win Best Picture (and for what it's worth, I've seen a fair amount of pundits and reviewers speak about the film more positively since its Venice bow, and one of them stated he felt the reason it got the reaction it did there was due to most of the big publications having left the festival by the time it premiered), but what I'm thinking is that in a year where we're set for ten nominees, The Last Duel could have technical muscle to push it over the top into that bottom half of the field. Does he though? If we look at the last 20 years, there have been 14 Ridley Scott movies released and only four of them got technical nominations. Moreover, two of those only got 1 tech nod each - "American Gangster" for Production Design and "Prometheus" for VFX. The other two movies were "Black Hawk Down" and "The Martian" which were obviously big AMPAS hits. My point is that it's actually been fairly tough for Ridley Scott movies to get a lot of tech nods in the last 20 years, even though the projects themselves had plenty of that potential on paper - stuff like "Kingdom of Heaven" or "Robin Hood" and such. Granted, "The Last Duel" seems to be received a bit warmer than those but apparently it's not particularly grand in scope and focuses more on indoor dialogue scenes rather than the epic stuff so I think that kinda limits its potential tech nod haul. I can definitely see it nominated in three categories - Production Design, Costume Design and Makeup. The rest though? Kinda hard to picture it. I also gotta disagree about the year seeming like it doesn't have a lot of big tech players - I think there're plenty! With movies like "Dune", "Nightmare Alley", "Spencer", "West Side Story", "Cyrano", "The French Dispatch", "Macbeth", "The Power of the Dog", "Belfast" and even Scott's own "House of Gucci" potentially fighting for those tech nods, "The Last Duel" will (at least that's how it looks to me) have a pretty tough time getting a huge tech nomination haul. Mind you, I'm not trying to shit on the movie - I'm very much looking forward to it. I'm just always excited when there's some prediction talk about the tech categories
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Oct 10, 2021 14:11:01 GMT
Quick question: has everyone forgotten about The Green Knight as a tech contender?
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Post by stephen on Oct 10, 2021 14:16:43 GMT
Quick question: has everyone forgotten about The Green Knight as a tech contender? The Academy's not that cool. But by rights, it should be clearing the field for every single tech in sight. A24's just not been giving much of a fuck since they won in 2016.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Oct 10, 2021 16:46:32 GMT
Seems that reviews are starting to angle much more positive than the initial Venice reception. Don't sleep on this -- I think it's a big tech player, probably the second biggest this year after Dune. It's on 74% on Rotten Tomatoes with 27 reviews and 65 on Metacritic with 14 reviews. These are not particularly fantastic or typical BP level scores, and there still aren't anywhere enough reviews out there to know if it will even stay fresh on RT (it probably will, but it might just be barely). These are completely average scores, and there still aren't that many reviews in totality. The way you were talking, I was thinking there were at least now over a 100 reviews on RT and it was in the 80's or 90's on RT. So yeah, it's kinda hold your horses on this one.... 76% on RT now. There are still a lot more reviews, many that are going to be positive given the recent reactions from critics on Twitter. It’s trending upwards for sure, it jumped four points on metacritic with only two new reviews added and 10 points on RT with a handful of new ones. My guess is that it’s going to be in the low to mid 70’s on MC and in the 80’s on RT when all is said and done which would be more than good enough for the film to be a contender.
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Post by stephen on Oct 10, 2021 16:59:34 GMT
76% on RT now. There are still a lot more reviews, many that are going to be positive given the recent reactions from critics on Twitter. It’s trending upwards for sure, it jumped four points on metacritic with only two new reviews added and 10 points on RT with a handful of new ones. My guess is that it’s going to be in the low to mid 70’s on MC and in the 80’s on RT when all is said and done which would be more than good enough for the film to be a contender. A solid meat-and-potatoes period piece that will surely appeal to the older, more traditional voters, but it's got enough of the timely aspect of female empowerment and the post-#metoo narrative to give it some juice as well.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Oct 10, 2021 17:56:06 GMT
76% on RT now. There are still a lot more reviews, many that are going to be positive given the recent reactions from critics on Twitter. It’s trending upwards for sure, it jumped four points on metacritic with only two new reviews added and 10 points on RT with a handful of new ones. My guess is that it’s going to be in the low to mid 70’s on MC and in the 80’s on RT when all is said and done which would be more than good enough for the film to be a contender. A solid meat-and-potatoes period piece that will surely appeal to the older, more traditional voters, but it's got enough of the timely aspect of female empowerment and the post-#metoo narrative to give it some juice as well. The only thing that could hurt its chances is if completely bombs at the box office. Hopefully it can at least open to 10-15 million and leg out to a respectable gross for Covid standards.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Oct 11, 2021 18:05:51 GMT
Up to 81% on RT!
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Oct 12, 2021 3:38:49 GMT
I don’t know if this will amount to much but people on Twitter are really losing their shit for Affleck in this. Like more than for The Tender Bar.
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Post by jakesully on Oct 12, 2021 3:45:17 GMT
Oh shit I wasn't even aware that this film is coming out this Friday! (I could have sworn it was a late November release ) That is great news to me and I'm pleased its getting good reviews too. I'll definitely be checking out The Last Duel in theaters this weekend. It'll be a nice appetizer to tide me over until DUNE is released the following weekend. Bring on the Joe Dirt/ Simple Jack haircuts baby!!!
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Post by havok2 on Oct 12, 2021 17:48:00 GMT
A dilemma to watch this or Halloween Kills Thursday....i like Ridley a lot but I am also very intrigued by the other one considering its divise reviews
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