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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 17, 2022 23:31:14 GMT
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 17, 2022 23:43:25 GMT
Why is Baz Luhrmann so tacky?
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Post by countjohn on Feb 18, 2022 0:42:50 GMT
I was really wanting to like this and I'll still go see it but that did not look great. First of all Hanks looked terrible, I know it's a trailer but that looks Razzie worthy. And I see he's doing the same thing he did with Gatsby adding hip hop beats to the gospel music and making the guitar heavier. In the abstract I get it and I know 50's rock and roll would sound a bit tame and corny to people today. But if you direct it right and really capture the energy that was around the performances I think the audience would "get it". That said it obviously looks visually sumptuous with excellent PD and I thought the main actor playing Elvis looked pretty good based on what we saw of him here. So maybe it was a bad trailer.
Still, the only major oscar I was ever giving this a chance for was Hanks in supporting actor and I think you can say goodbye to that so this is only going to be factor for techs.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 18, 2022 1:06:58 GMT
Butler looks good but Hanks looks like he's doing a Leto in House of Gucci impression. Very distracting.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 18, 2022 1:09:20 GMT
Butler looks good but Hanks looks like he's doing a Leto in House of Gucci impression. Very distracting. Except that would have been awesome. They should have gotten Leto to play the part and just give the exact same performance.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 18, 2022 1:22:48 GMT
Butler is legit a good actor. I watched all episodes of that Shannara Chronicles fantasy show on MTV, and he carried that shit. But Luhrmann is a bad director. Hanks is one of the most reliably good actors ever, and looks quasi ridiculous here. I'm hoping it's just trailer fuckery and works better in context of the movie, which wouldn't be surprising, but man.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 18, 2022 16:54:30 GMT
I’m perplexed by this Hanks 3rd Oscar talk and I say this as someone who likes him and tends to be overly optimistic about his award chances. He got in for A Beautiful Day, but wasn’t close to winning. I don’t personally think any of the upcoming projects feel right for a third (be it that the role feels a little too familiar or the creative team seem shaky)
I wish A Man Called Ove had a stronger director, because I thought that sounded pretty promising, and Hanks as a cantankerous old man could be fun. Plot details were too vague on Here, but I’d be interested to see what the Forrest Gump team can come up with.
I’m glad he did a role/film like Elvis because even though his perf is sure to be divisive, it’s at least a stretch and will be a big film. It’s also a great movie. Lately, I’d been feeling like Hanks was falling out of favor with audiences because of how predictable he’s been. Greyhound and Finch were intended theatrical releases that the studios sold to streaming (this almost always happens when studios don’t see much chance for profitability in the final product) and News of the World flopped even for Covid standards with good reviews.
Hanks definitely needs to stretch at this point, I sense audiences just not being as thrilled as they used to be by the prospect of a new Hanks film. At least not the way it’s been most of his career. A Beautiful Day wasn’t exactly a stretch, but I think he won over audiences with that because he’s probably never been more perfect for a role, and managed his best reviews in at least twenty years for it. Aside from that, I don’t think he’s really exciting anyone these days. I can at least see some effort to stretch in Elvis and (at least on paper) in Ove, so I hope he leans into that a little more
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Post by stephen on Feb 18, 2022 17:00:17 GMT
I’m perplexed by this Hanks 3rd Oscar talk and I say this as someone who likes him and tends to be overly optimistic about his award chances. He got in for A Beautiful Day, but wasn’t close to winning. I don’t personally think any of the upcoming projects feel right for a third (be it that the role feels a little too familiar or the creative team seem shaky) I wish A Man Called Ove had a stronger director, because I thought that sounded pretty promising, and Hanks as a cantankerous old man could be fun. Plot details were too vague on Here, but I’d be interested to see what the Forrest Gump team can come up with. I’m glad he did a role/film like Elvis because even though his perf is sure to be divisive, it’s at least a stretch and will be a big film. It’s also a great movie. Lately, I’d been feeling like Hanks was falling out of favor with audiences because of how predictable he’s been. Greyhound and Finch were intended theatrical releases that the studios sold to streaming (this almost always happens when studios don’t see much chance for profitability in the final product) and News of the World flopped even for Covid standards with good reviews. Hanks definitely needs to stretch at this point, I sense audiences just not being as thrilled as they used to be by the prospect of a new Hanks film. At least not the way it’s been most of his career. A Beautiful Day wasn’t exactly a stretch, but I think he won over audiences with that because he’s probably never been more perfect for a role, and managed his best reviews in at least twenty years for it. Aside from that, I don’t think he’s really exciting anyone these days. I can at least see some effort to stretch in Elvis and (at least on paper) in Ove, so I hope he leans into that a little more I'm definitely someone who has said that Hanks has the makings of a three-time Oscar winner in him, but that elusive third win will have to be something more or less outside of his wheelhouse, and I think the frustrating thing about being a Hanks fan is that we know that he is capable of going against the grain, but he so rarely does it. But in terms of the two-timers currently working now, I'd rate him and Washington as the likeliest to hit that hat trick (I know people think De Niro could do it but I'm gonna need a lot of convincing).
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 18, 2022 17:00:56 GMT
If the studio releasing it had any confidence it was going to be an Oscar contender, they wouldn't release it in June. Hanks wasn't likely to be an Oscar contender due to the release strategy, and he looks even less likely after seeing what his performances looks like. It's bizarre how anytime you hear any announcements or news of a Hanks film, you scream " 3rd Oscar", like he gets easily nominated for everything or there is some mad rush to give him one. We knew this wasn't a contender when the release dates changed. The man is a much loved workhorse, but I don't think he's on some AMPAS priority list to reward again. They barely nominate him anymore, and he baits more than anyone this side of DiCaprio.Laz films tend to get summer releases, including Moulin Rouge. I think only one had another release strategy, so I’m not sure that it means anything regarding quality or award potential. He’s like Nolan in that regard.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 18, 2022 17:08:46 GMT
I’m perplexed by this Hanks 3rd Oscar talk and I say this as someone who likes him and tends to be overly optimistic about his award chances. He got in for A Beautiful Day, but wasn’t close to winning. I don’t personally think any of the upcoming projects feel right for a third (be it that the role feels a little too familiar or the creative team seem shaky) I wish A Man Called Ove had a stronger director, because I thought that sounded pretty promising, and Hanks as a cantankerous old man could be fun. Plot details were too vague on Here, but I’d be interested to see what the Forrest Gump team can come up with. I’m glad he did a role/film like Elvis because even though his perf is sure to be divisive, it’s at least a stretch and will be a big film. It’s also a great movie. Lately, I’d been feeling like Hanks was falling out of favor with audiences because of how predictable he’s been. Greyhound and Finch were intended theatrical releases that the studios sold to streaming (this almost always happens when studios don’t see much chance for profitability in the final product) and News of the World flopped even for Covid standards with good reviews. Hanks definitely needs to stretch at this point, I sense audiences just not being as thrilled as they used to be by the prospect of a new Hanks film. At least not the way it’s been most of his career. A Beautiful Day wasn’t exactly a stretch, but I think he won over audiences with that because he’s probably never been more perfect for a role, and managed his best reviews in at least twenty years for it. Aside from that, I don’t think he’s really exciting anyone these days. I can at least see some effort to stretch in Elvis and (at least on paper) in Ove, so I hope he leans into that a little more I'm definitely someone who has said that Hanks has the makings of a three-time Oscar winner in him, but that elusive third win will have to be something more or less outside of his wheelhouse, and I think the frustrating thing about being a Hanks fan is that we know that he is capable of going against the grain, but he so rarely does it. But in terms of the two-timers currently working now, I'd rate him and Washington as the likeliest to hit that hat trick (I know people think De Niro could do it but I'm gonna need a lot of convincing). 3 chances next year with Blanchett ..........De Niro.........Hanks (maybe for Ove)........Hanks won't "have to" stretch to win it - he's no different from Nicholson who didn't stretch either. I'd love him to stretch and think that's "more likely" for him to win, yes............. but ..........don't be surprised if he eventually wins - and I think he will - it's for a Tom Hanks Nice Guy Special in a big movie........if not and he doesn't stretch maybe it's in support..........maybe in Wes Anderson's next one.......... That "stretching" thing is really overplayed imo...............particularly for America's Dad who still has people who love him for being Tom Hanks........
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 18, 2022 17:17:27 GMT
I'm definitely someone who has said that Hanks has the makings of a three-time Oscar winner in him, but that elusive third win will have to be something more or less outside of his wheelhouse, and I think the frustrating thing about being a Hanks fan is that we know that he is capable of going against the grain, but he so rarely does it. But in terms of the two-timers currently working now, I'd rate him and Washington as the likeliest to hit that hat trick (I know people think De Niro could do it but I'm gonna need a lot of convincing). 3 chances next year with Blanchett ..........De Niro.........Hanks (maybe for Ove)........Hanks won't "have to" stretch to win it - he's no different from Nicholson who didn't stretch either. I'd love him to stretch and think that's "more likely" for him to win, yes............. but ..........don't be surprised if he eventually wins - and I think he will - it's for a Tom Hanks Nice Guy Special in a big movie........if not and he doesn't stretch maybe it's in support..........maybe in Wes Anderson's next one.......... That "stretching" thing is really overplayed imo...............particularly for America's Dad who still has people who love him for being Tom Hanks........ How do we measure how much audiences still love him for being Hanks? He’s been coming up short at the box office a bit recently, and his streaming films seemed to come and go without much fanfare. I am definitely sensing a little fatigue from audiences. I do agree that he may not necessarily need to stretch to win a third. Nicholson is a great comp, and he did break the nomination drought with a role that felt very much within his wheelhouse
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 18, 2022 17:29:32 GMT
3 chances next year with Blanchett ..........De Niro.........Hanks (maybe for Ove)........Hanks won't "have to" stretch to win it - he's no different from Nicholson who didn't stretch either. I'd love him to stretch and think that's "more likely" for him to win, yes............. but ..........don't be surprised if he eventually wins - and I think he will - it's for a Tom Hanks Nice Guy Special in a big movie........if not and he doesn't stretch maybe it's in support..........maybe in Wes Anderson's next one.......... That "stretching" thing is really overplayed imo...............particularly for America's Dad who still has people who love him for being Tom Hanks........ How do we measure how much audiences still love him for being Hanks? He’s been coming up short at the box office a bit recently, and his streaming films seemed to come and go without much fanfare. I am definitely sensing a little fatigue from audiences. I do agree that he may not necessarily need to stretch to win a third. Nicholson is a great comp, and he did break the nomination drought with a role that felt very much within his wheelhouse Yeah it's bit of a guess that they still love him..........I am not sure if the fatigue can be attributed to audiences tiring of Hanks or the last 2 years of Hell in general ......... Now I will say on MAR - people have mostly tired of him and want him to stretch very badly - but I dunno, that's "message board people" vs. "real world people" ...........he's certainly does have a lot of movies he's throwing out there though- looking for something to stick.....even on TV now like I said in an earlier post this AM........will be interesting to see how it plays out but instinctually I'm not inclined to bet against him - he has so many movies that people love ............that buys a lot of goodwill.........
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 18, 2022 18:27:36 GMT
* sigh*Every though I'm mostly right about these kind of things because I understand the industry and how people are perceived in it, people still insist on not heeding my freely given wisdom Robert DeNiro is never winning another Oscar. His career has been too tainted in the minds of many people by the last 25 years, which had few high points and a lot of embarrassing cash grabs. Tom Hanks is highly unlikely to ever win a competitive Oscar again. He plays it too safe, too often. It makes him very easy for AMPAS to keep overlooking in favor of a sexier option. It could happen, it it's unlikely. I think AMPAS feels two Best Actor Oscars is a fine enough reward for his career. Maybe they give him an Honorary Oscar one day to show some appreciation for long service! Competitively, those on two Oscars most likely to win again are Denzel Washington and Cate Blanchett.
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Post by Savager on Feb 18, 2022 19:35:19 GMT
I’m glad he did a role/film like Elvis because even though his perf is sure to be divisive, it’s at least a stretch and will be a big film. It’s also a great movie. Lately, I’d been feeling like Hanks was falling out of favor with audiences because of how predictable he’s been. Greyhound and Finch were intended theatrical releases that the studios sold to streaming (this almost always happens when studios don’t see much chance for profitability in the final product) and News of the World flopped even for Covid standards with good reviews. Since it seems like you saw the film, what did you think of Butler's performance?
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 18, 2022 20:41:55 GMT
I’m glad he did a role/film like Elvis because even though his perf is sure to be divisive, it’s at least a stretch and will be a big film. It’s also a great movie. Lately, I’d been feeling like Hanks was falling out of favor with audiences because of how predictable he’s been. Greyhound and Finch were intended theatrical releases that the studios sold to streaming (this almost always happens when studios don’t see much chance for profitability in the final product) and News of the World flopped even for Covid standards with good reviews. Since it seems like you saw the film, what did you think of Butler's performance? He’s incredible and nom-worthy. I liked the film, but I’m not convinced that it will get great reviews. I’m sensing a BR situation on a smaller scale. Critics indifferent or outright pan it, while audience are much more receptive.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 6, 2022 2:47:59 GMT
Saw the trailer again before The Batman. Hanks' accent/voice really stands out negatively. I get that the real dude had a weird way of speaking, but Hanks almost sounds like he's doing babytalk sometimes; just really off.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 6, 2022 5:53:44 GMT
The movie itself looked a lot better in the Batman trailer and particularly the guy playing Elvis looked very good. Hanks still looks terrible though.
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Post by franklin on Mar 6, 2022 21:33:27 GMT
After Being The Ricardos, I have no more hope about its potential dismissal.
Academy members will nominate Hanks regardless how actually awful his performance is.
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Post by dazed on Apr 30, 2022 22:51:43 GMT
this has been getting great reactions during screenings and apparently butler is a early front runner for best actor
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Post by stephen on Apr 30, 2022 22:54:27 GMT
this has been getting great reactions during screenings and apparently butler is a early front runner for best actor I saw The Northman again this afternoon and I heard a few older people in the lobby afterward chatting about how excited they were for it.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 30, 2022 23:04:56 GMT
Have I ever mentioned my utter distain for Baz? I only ask because he sucks... and I'm putting that nicely.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 12, 2022 20:12:36 GMT
Apparently, Denzel Washington helped Austin Butler land the role of Elvis. Denzel cold called Baz Lurhmann (whom he's never met or worked with) after Butler had sent in his audition tape, to talk Butler up, saying what a good actor he was and how great his work ethic was. At the time, Butler was acting on Broadway with Washington as part of the ensemble cast for The Iceman Cometh.
www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/cold-call-denzel-washington-helped-185043338.html
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 12, 2022 20:36:57 GMT
Apparently, Denzel Washington helped Austin Butler land the role of Elvis. Denzel cold called Baz Lurhmann (whom he's never met or worked with) after Butler had sent in his audition tape, to talk Butler up, saying what a good actor he was and how great his work ethic was. At the time, Butler was acting on Broadway with Washington as part of the ensemble cast for The Iceman Comet.
www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/cold-call-denzel-washington-helped-185043338.htmlThat’s really awesome he would go out of his way to do that. Can’t imagine a Director not putting an actor at the top of their list after that.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 12, 2022 20:50:47 GMT
Apparently, Denzel Washington helped Austin Butler land the role of Elvis. Denzel cold called Baz Lurhmann (whom he's never met or worked with) after Butler had sent in his audition tape, to talk Butler up, saying what a good actor he was and how great his work ethic was. At the time, Butler was acting on Broadway with Washington as part of the ensemble cast for The Iceman Comet.
www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/cold-call-denzel-washington-helped-185043338.htmlThat’s really awesome he would go out of his way to do that. Can’t imagine a Director not putting an actor at the top of their list after that. Yeah, aside from being the GOAT actor, Denzel is by all accounts a very stand up dude who goes out of his way to help others. He's got a bit of a scary reputation as someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly and doesn't like to engage in idle chit-chat when working, but if he's impressed by co-stars on the job, he'll go out of his way to champion them for other things. But yeah, I'd imagine Denzel's endorsement made all the difference to Butler getting the role, as the competition for a part like Elvis (with actors much better known than him as well) would have been insane.
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Post by Joaquim on May 12, 2022 20:59:28 GMT
this has been getting great reactions during screenings and apparently butler is a early front runner for best actor I saw The Northman again this afternoon and I heard a few older people in the lobby afterward chatting about how excited they were for it. When I went to go see The Northman, the old people sitting at the back burst out laughing at the beginning of the trailer when Elvis was revealed after the bad Hanks narration
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