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Post by ibbi on Dec 4, 2022 14:09:33 GMT
I hope nobody minds my spamming this thread with peoples lists... Anyway, here's a couple more... A warning for this one. The man is so annoying whoever photographed it didn't care enough to even fit in everything he had to say:
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Post by ibbi on Dec 4, 2022 14:18:02 GMT
No spoilers for the old king:
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Post by stephen on Dec 4, 2022 14:23:16 GMT
Any man who puts Bondarchuk in his top ten is a man I would follow into a battle, preferably lensed by Bondarchuk.
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Post by stabcaesar on Dec 4, 2022 14:41:01 GMT
Any man who puts Bondarchuk in his top ten is a man I would follow into a battle, preferably lensed by Bondarchuk. I've been wanting to see his version of War and Peace but can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Post by stephen on Dec 4, 2022 14:43:29 GMT
Any man who puts Bondarchuk in his top ten is a man I would follow into a battle, preferably lensed by Bondarchuk. I've been wanting to see his version of War and Peace but can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 4, 2022 17:34:41 GMT
Surprised Face/off, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and Paddington II did not finish as the top three with the recent reevaluation these films received. Perhaps that is still too recent and we will see the effects next time.
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Post by ibbi on Dec 4, 2022 20:48:33 GMT
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Post by flasuss on Dec 4, 2022 22:38:40 GMT
Oliver Stone's list doesn't appear, is just Penelope Spheeris' twice.
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Post by ibbi on Dec 4, 2022 23:53:30 GMT
Oliver Stone's list doesn't appear, is just Penelope Spheeris' twice. Thank you Fixed it.
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Post by stephen on Dec 4, 2022 23:58:34 GMT
I know you didn't just shit on my boy NWR, ibbi.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 5, 2022 0:49:47 GMT
Huh. Never would have pegged McDonagh as a Malick fan...
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 5, 2022 9:19:13 GMT
I also love how Bong has Zodiac on his list since it seems heavily influenced by Memories of Murder...
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Dec 5, 2022 15:48:40 GMT
Sight & Sound's video on the changes to the list, including that Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch came in at 136, Polanski's Chinatown at 146, and Griffith's Intolerance at 224.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 5, 2022 18:24:47 GMT
Wait, so no matter how many toxic white males they get rid of: Chinatown loses 68 spots (um), Wild Bunch loses 52 spots!, Intolerancce loses 131 spots (holy fuck) to make way for alternative choices, females, all minorities, and space aliens - Malcolm X STILL can't get in the top 100.... don't mind me - people are living in my head for free - it's that - not his filmography.... @5:07 "It's fascinating to see what has dropped out of the top 100" - is it though .......or is it totally sad..... Glad to see Get Out topped all of those f'n hacks by 36 spots minimum though ......
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Post by wilcinema on Dec 5, 2022 18:33:31 GMT
8½ The Leopard Céline and Julie Go Boating Fanny and Alexander Three Colors: Red 2001: A Space Odyssey Sansho The Bailiff Come and See Apocalypse Now Love and Anarchy
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 7, 2022 18:18:06 GMT
Armond White takes on the poll and the results are........well, you know Armond White-ish ........one of the better pieces of film writing this year though - love him or hate him - the man can really write....side note Marxist is pejorative here I'm pretty sure - the way young radical Marxists use "Capitalism" in 2022 (except they use it incorrectly ).........feminist is merely descriptive ..... Jeanne Dielman, a dull Marxist-feminist token, tops the list, thanks to the woke hive mind dominating film culture.
The film-loving tradition of Britain’s Sight and Sound magazine, especially its international poll on “The Greatest Films of All Time,” is over. Announcing the decennial poll’s latest results — Jeanne Dielman tops the list now, as Vertigo did in 2012 — S&S ruined its trustworthiness. No longer a reliable consensus, the poll fragments film culture into political sects. www.nationalreview.com/2022/12/sight-sound-poll-results-the-end-of-popular-cinema/
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 7, 2022 19:09:51 GMT
kind of telling that the breitbart article and the armond white writeup are less conspiratorial about the poll than like, half of the people posting in this thread lol
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Post by ibbi on Dec 7, 2022 19:47:13 GMT
Armond White, the world's best-known and funniest against-the-grain movie anti-conformist out here arguing that this fucking list doesn't conform to age-old norms
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 23, 2022 18:18:15 GMT
Shows what 1 person can do I guess - Laura Mulvey? Despite voting for it, (Amy) Taubin was surprised and in fact didn't seem super thrilled about ‘Jeanne Dielman’ winning. She called the ‘Dielman’ victory "the victory of British feminist cinema studies.” Taubin adds that a lot of the critics polled were British, around 40% of them, and a lot of them studied under Laura Mulvey who championed Akerman’s film for many years.
When Claire Denis’ “Beau Travail” and Celine Sciamma’s “Portrait of a Lady on Fire” were mentioned, Taubin said “that’s also British feminist studies” entry. She notes the fact that despite this being a British poll, not a single film from Mike Leigh made it into top 100. www.worldofreel.com/blog/2022/12/p2kodyebjexobh4uol14k49u61uwkc
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Dec 23, 2022 18:26:08 GMT
Despite voting for it, (Amy) Taubin was surprised and in fact didn't seem super thrilled about ‘Jeanne Dielman’ winning. what? Not sure how much stock I'm gonna put in someone who seems at war with themselves - you voted for a movie and are mad it did too well? I imagine all film studies have influence over a critic's taste. I had already seen both Citizen Kane and Vertigo but got to rewatch them again for my first film studies course. The film we did to represent feminist cinema? Cléo from 5 to 7, a film I myself champion and probably not coincidentally so in much the same way you not so coincidentally champion music from your youth 180 years ago
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Post by avnermoriarti on Dec 23, 2022 19:06:19 GMT
Amy Taubin's voice is one for the ages, love it. I got a couple of criterion editions just because her audio commentary. And despite sometimes having wild and shocking takes she has my support for thinking Everything Everywhere.. was "truly terrible" and hoping to be dead to not discuss another s&s list in 10 years she gets it
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 23, 2022 22:29:38 GMT
if you not an amy taubin fan get out of here
anyways, 40% of the pollsters being british is surprisingly high and not something i've heard mentioned or cited elsewhere. and if they are picking from similar curriculum it wouldn't surprising that it would have a sizable influence on the poll, though the same can be said for any more widely adored canon picks too of course.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 23, 2022 23:39:04 GMT
Still losing sleep about the Director's List..... Some classics, previously pretty high, are now completely gone? Casablanca, The Third Man, Gone with the Wind, even Children of Paradise......which in '92 was at #21... where'd you go! Arabia (#62) used to make the Top 5; I'm not convinced it'll make it at all next time! The whole 2001 love confuses me too - I didn't know anyone thought it was better than Clockwork, let alone the world? Clockwork whiffed the list, btw. 2001 at #1... and some very high Tarkovsky..... but no Solaris??? and now I need some space.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 24, 2022 1:09:50 GMT
The whole 2001 love confuses me too - I didn't know anyone thought it was better than Clockwork, let alone the world? Hmm, I've always thought 2001 was widely regarded as Kubrick's masterpiece and his signature film. I always see it at the top of lists online ranking his filmography.
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 24, 2022 9:07:45 GMT
The whole 2001 love confuses me too - I didn't know anyone thought it was better than Clockwork, let alone the world? Hmm, I've always thought 2001 was widely regarded as Kubrick's masterpiece and his signature film. I always see it at the top of lists online ranking his filmography. ive never seen a film space where ACO was regarded as his best. it's always 2001 or Barry Lyndon. in any case i don't think a negative shift to kubrick's films is going to realistically set his legacy back much.
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