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Post by pacinoyes on May 4, 2022 16:57:40 GMT
Ok, so let's have some fun with the recent events - um, that was a joke - so who do you think actually is responsible for the leak? Someone on the Left or the Right? Obviously you'd think it's on the Left on the surface but the Regressive Left - yeah, I said it - and I swear to God if I ever form a band that will totally be the name - floated some alternate ideas some of which are possible - though I personally highly doubt it........but what do you think simply a disgruntled Regressive Leftist Wackadooodle or a Fanatical Conservative Machiavellian Master of the Universe? From the NY Times - link below with full guessing game included:So if you were simply following a crude strategic logic, the fact that what’s been leaked is a draft from months ago might suggest that a leaker on the conservative side hopes to freeze a wavering justice — Kavanaugh being the obvious candidate — into their initial vote, by making it seem like the very credibility of the court rests on their not being perceived to cave under external pressure. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/opinion/supreme-court-roe-abortion.html
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Post by hugobolso on May 4, 2022 16:59:59 GMT
Ok, so let's have some fun with the recent events - um, that was a joke - so who do you think actually is responsible for the leak? Someone on the Left or the Right? Obviously you'd think it's on the Left on the surface but the Regressive Left - yeah, I said it - and I swear to God if I ever form a band that will totally be the name - floated some alternate ideas some of which are possible - though I personally highly doubt it........but what do you think simply a disgruntled Regressive Leftist Wackadooodle or a Fanatical Conservative Machiavellian Master of the Universe? From the NY Times - link below with full guessing game included:So if you were simply following a crude strategic logic, the fact that what’s been leaked is a draft from months ago might suggest that a leaker on the conservative side hopes to freeze a wavering justice — Kavanaugh being the obvious candidate — into their initial vote, by making it seem like the very credibility of the court rests on their not being perceived to cave under external pressure. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/opinion/supreme-court-roe-abortion.htmlTwitter polls say someone around Sotomayor called Amit Jain (also blasted Bred Kavanaugh) Jaid and Sotomayor should ended in PRISON!!!
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Post by quetee on May 4, 2022 17:15:06 GMT
Well, granted the leak is not good but I think whomever did it was thinking big picture. Had this just been released, there would be riots for weeks.
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Post by hugobolso on May 4, 2022 17:18:26 GMT
theancestory.com/who-is-amit-jain/Who Is Amit Jain? Supreme Court Clerk Who Allegedly Exposed Abortion Draft Amit Jain, a Supreme Court clerk, is accused of putting his job in jeopardy in order to uncover the truth about the abortion draft. The entire story may be found here.
When Amit Jain publicly lambasted Yale for supporting Brett Kavanaugh’s candidacy, he made headlines. Amit, the CEO of Sequoia Capital India, is stepping down to follow his passion for entrepreneurship. In a 2017 post for Politico, Josh Gerstein cited him. Today, Gerstein released the proposed SCOTUS Roe opinion. Amit Jain, the current CEO of Sequoia Capital India, is a Standford University and Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Delhi graduate.
Amit joined Sequoia Capital India in 2019 as part of the Singapore-based growth-stage private equity corporate investment firm from global cab giant Uber.
He declared his desire to resign as CEO of the blue-chip venture capital business lately. Sequoia Capital India made the announcement in a series of tweets.
Before joining Sequoia, Amit was the head of Asia Pacific at Uber. He is also the CEO of Rent.com, a Los Angeles-based company. TPG Capital and McKinsey & Company were among Jain’s previous employers.
Sequoia India is raising a $2.8 billion fund to expand its enterprise investments in India and Southeast Asia at the time of Jain’s dismissal.
Amit Jain clerks for Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s clerk is Amit Jain, the individual who recently released the abortion draft.
Justice Alito’s draft perspective on the legality of abortion is reported to have been leaked by Jain, thereby reversing Roe v. Wade.
Since 1973, Roe v. Wade, a landmark decision that established a constitutional right to abortion, has remained a bedrock of American law.
According to Politico, a leaked predicted majority opinion predicts that the US Supreme Court would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion across the US.
The unexpected disclosure by the conservative-majority Supreme Court surprised the country, not least since the court takes pride in keeping its inside conversations private, and leaks are highly rare.
On Twitter, you can find Amit Jain After allegations of a leaked abortion draft surfaced on Twitter, people are giving their thoughts on Amit Jain and the case.
The vast majority of people are angry about Amits’ leak of Justice Alito’s draft decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
However, it is only rumored that Amit released the information; this has yet to be confirmed.
Amit Jain’s Family Amit Jain was born and raised in India by his family. He was born and raised in India, where he received his education.
Amit seems to be from a lower-middle-class background. His parents’ names and hometown are unknown.
It’s uncertain whether Amit was the perpetrator of the abortion draft leak; if he was, further information about him will be published soon.
First JAil for Treason and then deportation for puting US Democracy in jeopardy!!!!
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Post by quetee on May 4, 2022 17:26:32 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied.
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Post by hugobolso on May 4, 2022 17:34:41 GMT
An Indian Spy in the US Supreme Justice !!! we are roosted, just not only for Russia, Iran, Afganistan and China, but also for India tooo!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on May 4, 2022 18:04:13 GMT
Yeah I know this has been all over Twitter but if it's NOT him I'd feel bad......he's being roasted..........we should hear something soon (?) Like I said - if it's someone on the Left or Right they will treat this PoS as "brave" or a "hero" for the side they leaked for (in this case the Left) - GTFO ..........also if it is him (again IF) and Twitter solved it days before the Court did ..........it is funny on some absurdist level
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Post by hugobolso on May 4, 2022 18:09:16 GMT
Yeah I know this has been all over Twitter but if it's NOT him I'd feel bad......he's being roasted..........we should hear something soon (?) Like I said - if it's someone on the Left or Right they will treat this PoS as "brave" or a "hero" for the side they leaked for (in this case the Left) - GTFO ..........also if it is him (again IF) and Twitter solved it days before the Court did ..........it is funny on some absurdist level Never ever happened something like this in The Supreme Court.- I don't care who he, she or they are, they must be ended in jail for treason.- It's weird that someone who was born in India and usually twitts about India things is the clerk of Sonia Sotomayor. Maybe the name is right, but the photo isn't. And is another Amin Jain.- Edit. Check other sources he is the same guy in the photo ylr.law.yale.edu/pdfs/v65-2/S18-Commencement.pdf Amit Jain This August, I’ll head to Baltimore, where I’ll clerk for Judge Diana Motz on the Fourth Circuit. After that, I’ll be looking for jobs in New York City. I plan to work in public defense or deportation defense. He will end deported.- I hope he, or his boss aren't. I respect Sotomayor as a Judge, should be a dirty ending career for her.-
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 18:29:10 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied. Right?! But, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't believe nominees are under oath during the confirmation hearings...
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 4, 2022 20:20:44 GMT
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Post by flasuss on May 4, 2022 20:37:45 GMT
For many Republicans, that's a feature, not a bug. While I fully expect the Dems to roll over it’d be nice if they finally grew some balls and played politics the way the right does. As someone that doesn't live there, for me this is essentially the key problem of American politics- the Republican party is at war against the Democrats and even democracy if it gets their way, while Democrats refuse to fight even though they are stronger, so they lose. This is of course in no small part because of the geriatric leadership born under FDR or Truman and nostalgic for the "good old days" of stronger bipartisanship, but also because Democratic voters, in part because they tend to skew younger and wealthier, are too spoiled and fickle- they refuse to vote on their candidate because he said something sexist in 1973 while Republicans vote for rapists if they promise to let them keep their guns.
Really, there's no reason why Democrats shouldn't be in control of American politics comfortably, except that Democratic voters don't bother voting and politicians don't bother fighting.
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Post by quetee on May 4, 2022 22:17:58 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied. Right?! But, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't believe nominees are under oath during the confirmation hearings... I don't think so but still they lied and had they been truthful, maybe they would not have been confirmed.
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Post by quetee on May 4, 2022 22:19:00 GMT
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Post by Barbie on May 4, 2022 22:40:28 GMT
Yeah I know this has been all over Twitter but if it's NOT him I'd feel bad......he's being roasted..........we should hear something soon (?) Like I said - if it's someone on the Left or Right they will treat this PoS as "brave" or a "hero" for the side they leaked for (in this case the Left) - GTFO ..........also if it is him (again IF) and Twitter solved it days before the Court did ..........it is funny on some absurdist level I saw a claim on Twitter that it was actually someone else who did it. Elizabeth something. Anyway, it doesn’t matter who leaked it. It’s wild that people are so concerned about the leak and not the horrendous decision
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Post by Joaquim on May 4, 2022 23:26:16 GMT
Ok, so let's have some fun with the recent events - um, that was a joke - so who do you think actually is responsible for the leak? Someone on the Left or the Right? Obviously you'd think it's on the Left on the surface but the Regressive Left - yeah, I said it - and I swear to God if I ever form a band that will totally be the name - floated some alternate ideas some of which are possible - though I personally highly doubt it........but what do you think simply a disgruntled Regressive Leftist Wackadooodle or a Fanatical Conservative Machiavellian Master of the Universe? From the NY Times - link below with full guessing game included:So if you were simply following a crude strategic logic, the fact that what’s been leaked is a draft from months ago might suggest that a leaker on the conservative side hopes to freeze a wavering justice — Kavanaugh being the obvious candidate — into their initial vote, by making it seem like the very credibility of the court rests on their not being perceived to cave under external pressure. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/opinion/supreme-court-roe-abortion.htmlTake a look at the whole Twitter thread, it adds up pretty well
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Post by Joaquim on May 4, 2022 23:33:46 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied. Why? It’s no different from a Republican or Democrat politician saying one thing on the campaign trail then doing something else entirely when they’re in office
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Post by pacinoyes on May 4, 2022 23:46:33 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied. Why? It’s no different from a Republican or Democrat politician saying one thing on the campaign trail then doing something else entirely when they’re in office I'll go one step further - I can't recall ANY of them ever saying they would NOT vote to overturn Roe. What they said (iirc) was that Roe was a precedent and a settled case, but they never said they wouldn't look at a settled case again - just that you had to respect the precedent. It's sleazy stuff and it's omitting, but it's no more or less of a lie than saying I'm not a biologist and I don't know what a woman is. All of that is just window dressing anyway, it's apparently been overturned so it's a moot point - if the leak is accurate, but the leaker and the mid-terms are not a moot point - those are actual issues in play........focus people, wtf........it's like arguing whether Biden really won the election a month after he took office........why does THAT "lying" stuff ^ even matter anyway..........it doesn't.........
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Post by Joaquim on May 4, 2022 23:46:37 GMT
Yeah I know this has been all over Twitter but if it's NOT him I'd feel bad......he's being roasted..........we should hear something soon (?) Like I said - if it's someone on the Left or Right they will treat this PoS as "brave" or a "hero" for the side they leaked for (in this case the Left) - GTFO ..........also if it is him (again IF) and Twitter solved it days before the Court did ..........it is funny on some absurdist level I saw a claim on Twitter that it was actually someone else who did it. Elizabeth something. Anyway, it doesn’t matter who leaked it. It’s wild that people are so concerned about the leak and not the horrendous decision It’s because leaking a Supreme Court opinion is so unprecedented and completely destroys the inner workings of the Court. The Court relies heavily on all the judges having immense trust in each other and a leak like this does a lot to damage that. The Court could issue a decision that would upset conservatives a lot and if a clerk for Alito or Thomas leaked the opinion before the final decision was made it would be equally as bad as this. This was the last of the country’s institutions to have some sort of aura of “sacredness” and now its legitimacy has taken a major, maybe irrecoverable hit. Like I said earlier in the thread, whether or not that’s a good thing is another discussion, and ik my thoughts are certainly all over the place on that particular point since I’m kinda in both camps as to whether it’s a good or bad thing
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Post by quetee on May 4, 2022 23:58:17 GMT
Seriously though, people need to be upset that those MFers lied. Why? It’s no different from a Republican or Democrat politician saying one thing on the campaign trail then doing something else entirely when they’re in office
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 5, 2022 0:32:46 GMT
I saw a claim on Twitter that it was actually someone else who did it. Elizabeth something. Anyway, it doesn’t matter who leaked it. It’s wild that people are so concerned about the leak and not the horrendous decision It’s because leaking a Supreme Court opinion is so unprecedented and completely destroys the inner workings of the Court. The Court relies heavily on all the judges having immense trust in each other and a leak like this does a lot to damage that. The Court could issue a decision that would upset conservatives a lot and if a clerk for Alito or Thomas leaked the opinion before the final decision was made it would be equally as bad as this. This was the last of the country’s institutions to have some sort of aura of “sacredness” and now its legitimacy has taken a major, maybe irrecoverable hit. Like I said earlier in the thread, whether or not that’s a good thing is another discussion, and ik my thoughts are certainly all over the place on that particular point since I’m kinda in both camps as to whether it’s a good or bad thing if the SC overturns 50 years of precedence with Roe they lose that legitimacy anyways. Doesn't matter whether it happens now or in June. Whoever leaked this was aware of that and was probably troubled that the court seemed poised to push the county in a legal direction that is hugely politically unrepresentative of the population it would affect. And given Roe's significance re: privacy rights not to mention Obergefell possibly on the chopping block, that seems pretty damn important for people to know.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 5, 2022 0:58:17 GMT
It’s because leaking a Supreme Court opinion is so unprecedented and completely destroys the inner workings of the Court. The Court relies heavily on all the judges having immense trust in each other and a leak like this does a lot to damage that. The Court could issue a decision that would upset conservatives a lot and if a clerk for Alito or Thomas leaked the opinion before the final decision was made it would be equally as bad as this. This was the last of the country’s institutions to have some sort of aura of “sacredness” and now its legitimacy has taken a major, maybe irrecoverable hit. Like I said earlier in the thread, whether or not that’s a good thing is another discussion, and ik my thoughts are certainly all over the place on that particular point since I’m kinda in both camps as to whether it’s a good or bad thing if the SC overturns 50 years of precedence with Roe they lose that legitimacy anyways. Doesn't matter whether it happens now or in June. Whoever leaked this was aware of that and was probably troubled that the court seemed poised to push the county in a legal direction that is hugely politically unrepresentative of the population it would affect. And given Roe's significance re: privacy rights not to mention Obergefell possibly on the chopping block, that seems pretty damn important for people to know.That is anarchy ^ - why live in the US at all then? Why even raise "unrepresentative of the population" - that is not your call or that person who leaked it to make. That's why we have a Bill of Rights - the "populace" does not govern the Court in any way? This is something that can not and will not be changed AND actually SHOULD not be changed because a government body did their job within its parameters (wrongly imo too, but their job nonetheless) - that "people" would have found out anyway in ~ 4-8 weeks .........at first I just wanted this PoS to lose their Law career and enjoy their new career as a liberal cause célèbre (book deal, press tour, MSNBC gig)........now I'm thinking jail time would make me really really happy. Overturning 50 years of precedence is nothing compared to throwing away close to 250 of our governing documents.
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Post by hugobolso on May 5, 2022 1:03:07 GMT
Ok, so let's have some fun with the recent events - um, that was a joke - so who do you think actually is responsible for the leak? Someone on the Left or the Right? Obviously you'd think it's on the Left on the surface but the Regressive Left - yeah, I said it - and I swear to God if I ever form a band that will totally be the name - floated some alternate ideas some of which are possible - though I personally highly doubt it........but what do you think simply a disgruntled Regressive Leftist Wackadooodle or a Fanatical Conservative Machiavellian Master of the Universe? From the NY Times - link below with full guessing game included:So if you were simply following a crude strategic logic, the fact that what’s been leaked is a draft from months ago might suggest that a leaker on the conservative side hopes to freeze a wavering justice — Kavanaugh being the obvious candidate — into their initial vote, by making it seem like the very credibility of the court rests on their not being perceived to cave under external pressure. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/opinion/supreme-court-roe-abortion.htmlTake a look at the whole Twitter thread, it adds up pretty well Judge Breyer has sense. I hope his retirement will be suspend until the investigation ended. His clerk is the wife a político jornalist. Thanks god apperently arent Sotomayor or the indian guy. As a foreign this should be look bad for the latíno and indian community for this scandsl
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Post by Barbie on May 5, 2022 2:05:24 GMT
Ok, so let's have some fun with the recent events - um, that was a joke - so who do you think actually is responsible for the leak? Someone on the Left or the Right? Obviously you'd think it's on the Left on the surface but the Regressive Left - yeah, I said it - and I swear to God if I ever form a band that will totally be the name - floated some alternate ideas some of which are possible - though I personally highly doubt it........but what do you think simply a disgruntled Regressive Leftist Wackadooodle or a Fanatical Conservative Machiavellian Master of the Universe? From the NY Times - link below with full guessing game included:So if you were simply following a crude strategic logic, the fact that what’s been leaked is a draft from months ago might suggest that a leaker on the conservative side hopes to freeze a wavering justice — Kavanaugh being the obvious candidate — into their initial vote, by making it seem like the very credibility of the court rests on their not being perceived to cave under external pressure. www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/opinion/supreme-court-roe-abortion.htmlTake a look at the whole Twitter thread, it adds up pretty well I wanna point out the hypocrisy of Will Chamberlain to out this woman when just a few weeks ago, he was complaining about Taylor Lorenz “doxxing” the bigoted cunt behind “Libsoftiktok”
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Post by Joaquim on May 5, 2022 2:27:04 GMT
It’s because leaking a Supreme Court opinion is so unprecedented and completely destroys the inner workings of the Court. The Court relies heavily on all the judges having immense trust in each other and a leak like this does a lot to damage that. The Court could issue a decision that would upset conservatives a lot and if a clerk for Alito or Thomas leaked the opinion before the final decision was made it would be equally as bad as this. This was the last of the country’s institutions to have some sort of aura of “sacredness” and now its legitimacy has taken a major, maybe irrecoverable hit. Like I said earlier in the thread, whether or not that’s a good thing is another discussion, and ik my thoughts are certainly all over the place on that particular point since I’m kinda in both camps as to whether it’s a good or bad thing if the SC overturns 50 years of precedence with Roe they lose that legitimacy anyways. Doesn't matter whether it happens now or in June. Whoever leaked this was aware of that and was probably troubled that the court seemed poised to push the county in a legal direction that is hugely politically unrepresentative of the population it would affect. And given Roe's significance re: privacy rights not to mention Obergefell possibly on the chopping block, that seems pretty damn important for people to know. It’s not the first time the Supreme Court has overturned long standing precedent. About the legitimacy, I mean when the illusion of the Supreme Court being a legitimate institution is broken. You could argue it lost its legitimacy when Andrew Jackson defied it and enforced the Indian removal act or even way back from the very beginning with Marbury v. Madison when it gave itself the power of judicial review which the constitution never gave it, right after using said power to strike down a section of a bill that expanded the Court’s power because its unconstitutional to expand the Court’s power. You could argue for any moment you want but it doesn’t matter, the illusion of legitimacy has gone on. The Court making a bad decision doesn’t break its legitimacy in the general public consciousness, it’s made plenty of bad decisions in its history and every time it makes one of the few decisions that actually gets the public’s attention a lot of the population is gonna get upset and say it’s an illegitimate decision but generally the Supreme Court remains a respectable institution in the eyes of the average American. If the decision is really bad you go through the process of amending the constitution to get around the ruling. There’s still a constitutional solution to right the Court’s wrong if that situation arises. What does break its legitimacy is something that attacks the inner workings of the Court and undermines its institutional stability
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Post by Joaquim on May 5, 2022 2:46:51 GMT
Take a look at the whole Twitter thread, it adds up pretty well I wanna point out the hypocrisy of Will Chamberlain to out this woman when just a few weeks ago, he was complaining about Taylor Lorenz “doxxing” the bigoted cunt behind “Libsoftiktok” Who isn’t a hypocrite on Twitter? Dude’s just parlaying his “investigate skills” from his real life profession into online clout. That’s all these people care about. No different from Lorenz who knew how much fame and likes Libsoftiktok’s scalp would fetch even if she’s complained about online harassment
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