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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 3, 2022 13:40:15 GMT
......the Court is a 3rd branch of power - it is expressly governed by Law not by poiitical concerns or our "democracy" at all......it's an extension of our unbiased Constitutional Republic -
This doesn’t apply to the current court
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 3, 2022 13:43:27 GMT
While I fully expect the Dems to roll over it’d be nice if they finally grew some balls and played politics the way the right does.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 14:09:58 GMT
Welp... We can remove Florida from the "Right Appears Secure" list.
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Post by cherry68 on May 3, 2022 15:45:46 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue.
Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 3, 2022 15:47:04 GMT
yeah this really is dems' only chance in the midterms. That may be a grotesque and cynical thing to say, but it's really hard to engage with any emotional genuineness with the current political climate. I'd say I'm not surprised but it's still a total punch in the gut. It's paralyzingly frustrating that this is happening in 2022, and that religious fanatics have as much political power now as they did in the 70s and 80s. What was the last 50 years for? It's just fucking depressing. another cynical take is that I don't think this ends up doing much... except possibly turn red states bluer over a looooong period of time (after years, maybe decades of deprivation). Unless Republican-leaning women are pushed to the left because of this, nothing is going to change. It took decades to win reproductive rights. In a lot of ways women in red states are now going to be starting from scratch but in an even more divisive climate with fewer persuadable voters. America is an international fucking embarrassment.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 3, 2022 16:01:55 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue. Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one. In this country, it is almost exclusively a religious issue, specifically an Evangelicalism issue.
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Post by cherry68 on May 3, 2022 16:11:36 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue. Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one. In this country, it is almost exclusively a religious issue, specifically an Evangelicalism issue. You mean only evangelical people defend fetuses? Atheists think that extermination of unborn babies is something they don't mind?
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Post by quetee on May 3, 2022 16:41:07 GMT
We need term limits.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 3, 2022 16:45:31 GMT
In this country, it is almost exclusively a religious issue, specifically an Evangelicalism issue. You mean only evangelical people defend fetuses? Atheists think that extermination of unborn babies is something they don't mind? Most non-Evangelicals here value the bodily autonomy of the mother over the unborn fetus.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:45:42 GMT
What good will that do if a Republican-controlled Senate won't even hold hearings for a Democrat President's nominee?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:47:12 GMT
In this country, it is almost exclusively a religious issue, specifically an Evangelicalism issue. You mean only evangelical people defend fetuses? Atheists think that extermination of unborn babies is something they don't mind? Right, to add to mike's post, the majority of Americans think a living, breathing woman should have more rights than a fetus.
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Post by Joaquim on May 3, 2022 16:48:56 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue. Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one. It’s always been a religious issue in some form or another. It’s why so many women converted to Christianity during the early days of that religion. In Ancient Rome only the man had a say in whether the woman kept the baby. If the man wanted the baby killed, the woman couldn’t fight it or she might end up dead too. You think women have no say over what they get to do with their bodies today? Give thanks to God/Allah you didn’t live back then. If the baby was born female or unhealthy it would get tossed in a ditch if that’s how the man wanted it. The joke “is it a boy or an abortion?” was no joke back then. Women wanted to keep their babies instead of tossing them in a ditch so they converted to Christianity in the early days because it was the only thing universally outlawing the slaughter of innocent babies
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:55:13 GMT
CNN: Chief Justice Roberts calls for investigation into leak - he calls it a "singular and egregious breach." pacinoyes
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 3, 2022 16:57:40 GMT
could these posts be moved to "fate of Roe v. Wade" thread
They really make more sense there. I know this thread has become a catch-all for abortion laws & news but this has all been specific to Roe and the SC.
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Post by quetee on May 3, 2022 16:58:38 GMT
What good will that do if a Republican-controlled Senate won't even hold hearings for a Democrat President's nominee? That's true.
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Post by cherry68 on May 3, 2022 17:08:20 GMT
You mean only evangelical people defend fetuses? Atheists think that extermination of unborn babies is something they don't mind? Right, to add to mike's post, the majority of Americans think a living, breathing woman should have more rights than a fetus. The stronger is more valuable than the weaker. Very American.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 17:14:08 GMT
Right, to add to mike's post, the majority of Americans think a living, breathing woman should have more rights than a fetus. The stronger is more valuable than the weaker. Very American. Just out of curiosity, do you think that cracking an egg is the same as killing a chicken? Do you think stomping on an acorn is the same as chopping down an oak tree?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 3, 2022 17:14:41 GMT
Well, obviously (to me) the person who leaked that - and it was quite an overt act of "leaking" not a "mistake or something overheard" is either a law clerk - or (God Forbid) a sitting member OF the Court .......Now you can argue what "fully accountable" means .......and let's assume - for the sake of our collective sanity that it was JUST a law clerk but the act itself is insane, an aggressive act of self-delusion - the Court is - and needs to be - above the leak but the leak itself is obscene ......the Court is a 3rd branch of power - it is expressly governed by Law not by poiitical concerns or our "democracy" at all......it's an extension of our unbiased Constitutional Republic - the leak is a subversion of their Judicial Power...... So what you're saying is that the Supreme Court, our own public servants, have a "right to privacy" so to speak.
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Post by cherry68 on May 3, 2022 17:24:20 GMT
The stronger is more valuable than the weaker. Very American. Just out of curiosity, do you think that cracking an egg is the same as killing a chicken? Do you think stomping on an acorn is the same as chopping down an oak tree? If the egg contains an embryo, yes. It's even more bloodcurdling as you don't eat it.
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Post by hugobolso on May 3, 2022 17:28:27 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue. Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one. I'm almost an atheist, specially with this Pope. I have trouble with religion because I was educated in a catholic, not practicant family, gone to a methodist church, married an new evangelic lady, and most of my friends are atheist.- So yep, I believe in God, I'm catholic, but not seclular, and think as an atheist or jewish.- So yep, I'm like a kind of Catholic Atheist.- Any way, this is more a philosphical issue than a real now. If the age of consent is 18, everybody at that age, knows about contraception.- We live in 2022 not in 1968. I guess women knows how not to become pregnant, and men how to not impregnate women, from a very young age.
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Post by hugobolso on May 3, 2022 17:33:57 GMT
The stronger is more valuable than the weaker. Very American. Just out of curiosity, do you think that cracking an egg is the same as killing a chicken? Do you think stomping on an acorn is the same as chopping down an oak tree? Chicken and eggs are meal. I have no seen no difference, both are delicious. Any way biologically a Hen could makes eggs without a Rooster.-
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Post by hugobolso on May 3, 2022 17:35:25 GMT
CNN: Chief Justice Roberts calls for investigation into leak - he calls it a "singular and egregious breach." pacinoyes Of course is a coup
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Post by hugobolso on May 3, 2022 17:36:57 GMT
It's disconcerting seeing some of you consider abortion a religious issue. Since decades ago, I've been hearing atheists in my country saying that defense of human life, including fetuses, is an human concern, not a religious one. It’s always been a religious issue in some form or another. It’s why so many women converted to Christianity during the early days of that religion. In Ancient Rome only the man had a say in whether the woman kept the baby. If the man wanted the baby killed, the woman couldn’t fight it or she might end up dead too. You think women have no say over what they get to do with their bodies today? Give thanks to God/Allah you didn’t live back then. If the baby was born female or unhealthy it would get tossed in a ditch if that’s how the man wanted it. The joke “is it a boy or an abortion?” was no joke back then. Women wanted to keep their babies instead of tossing them in a ditch so they converted to Christianity in the early days because it was the only thing universally outlawing the slaughter of innocent babies Pater Familiaes Roman Law!!!
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