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Here's my reasons why Harris lost:



1. She's weak. Selling her as strong as this point is silly. Yes, we saw the crying young females at her concession speech. But for the ones who don't have some of those young female sensibilities.... we're far less likely to take a liking to her. She's vanilla as fuck. She reminds me of some of the young female movie actresses being posted on this board which I would say are pretty vanilla. Of course some are actually hot and likeable, but Harris can't possibly be seen as those by many people outside of Democrats and this board. Straight men who aren't Democrats probably goes with Trump by an alarming percentage.

I've seen some young women say she's just a joke, so not every young woman digs her. Lots of people overall just aren't interested in her. As hated as Hillary was for the Benghazi mess, she is not criticized for being a joke. She has experience. Also, were it not for Benghazi, you can argue the moderates and Independents puts Hillary over the top against Trump. New Hampshire, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were the states she struggled in, and the moderates and some older college grads in those states went 3rd party instead, or didn't vote at all, or voted Trump.

There are some old women who takes a liking to her, but I can just as easily find an old lady who finds her fake and less a politician than someone who belongs in another line of work. Some just finds her plain boring and her words do not pierce even the unfainted hearts of some elderly women.



2. Joe Biden is Jimmy Carter. Disapproved by 3/4 people. Most candidates lose with those numbers. Carter got annihilated by Reagan. Yes I get that shes not Biden, but she's blamed for his failures by association. And while sometimes even disapproved Presidents get re-elected ala George W. Bush, he was not as unpopular as Biden. Bush at least had the patriots and Islamphobes behind him. He was just vehemently blasted by the anti-war faction of the Democratic party and the Leftist media. While some Republicans didn't like his war mongering and sending their kids to war - the hope that Saddam gets hung still kept the ones who didn't have children in the army voting Bush. Also, was economy really much of an issue in 2004? I certainly don't remember it being. Definitely not in 2000.

Biden lost the middle-to-moderates, the entire working class, Latino population, the Gen Z, some suburbans, and some African Americans. So he's closer to Carter than Bush.



3. Biden/Harris is said by some to be poised to kill the middle class. Again, it's just what I heard. But it's far more complicated than just their eggs are a dollar more expensive. It's the inflationary trajectory. I would say ask an economist, but I don't think anyone here (or myself) really know how economics really works so it's all just what you believe.



4. Trump is actually strong. Give the man some credit, psh. He beat 2 Democrats that was greatly glossed up by the media. In the 90s, Hillary Clinton was portrayed as a super cool, a sort of springtime pretty First Lady by the media. Some people thought she deserved better and was greatly mistreated by Bill. I'm not saying she or Harris is a strong candidate, but Trump did take them both down. One a total beatdown, and the other an upset. Trump also probably beats Biden if not for Covid.



5. Biden doesn't like her. I really think Biden hated her, or didn't want her. Her nomination was all cosmetic and optics, forced on by Obama and the party leaders. Biden had no choice but to accept. Didn't he even say she's not strong enough a candidate?


Here's Joe today: (this kinda proves it)





I could literally go down to item #15, but I'll just end with this. So........ posting Reddit links and certain disgruntled tweets kinda misses the mark badly, imo.

I’d wager Trump himself doesn’t know how tariffs work