the official 2024 US Presidential Election thread

orange man bad but he's old and worn down who's gonna make most his big decisions from the golf course. that Vance creep is terribly scary tho. lots of people gonna be rereading Margaret Atwood today.

Trump won the popular vote? wow!

What happened? was it the Bidden baggage or Kamala herself was the problem?

Kamala

On a more serious note, as someone who doesn't live in the US, but in Greece, Trump has always felt to me like the guy who is all talk but no action. But, the fact that we have had so many useless politicians in my country throughout the years, has made me apathetic to politics in general. What's the point of choosing who will be the better puppet? The big decisions are made by others behind closed doors. At least that's what happens in Greece. Maybe in the US it is different.

Can you really not tell that this is fake?

Like, I know exit polls are not everything, but take a look at the ones from the great people at Fox over these last two elections:



and throw CNN into the picture too for more detail:



and it seems like (at least when it comes to the education divide) white college people were not the key reason Trump won this election, non-white people were. You know, I can't imagine what kind of people would try and deny this in favour of pushing some narrative about victory for smart white people.

What about Cherry's current events posts makes you think she can tell if things are fake?

And yes, the education gap was mind blowing this time. Harris even very narrowly won college educated white men and it wasn't close with any other demo. Trump got 2/3's of the no college white vote which is ultimately his most important demo and why he won. Education is the second biggest partisan determinant at this point besides race (and it's a close second). Much bigger than gender despite the gender gap talk, and particularly with younger people I think that gap is being powered by women going to college so much more often now so gender isn't really the operative thing. 

Seeing a lot of posts like this one from Trump supporters which is just fucking stupid. Even after winning they can’t let this 2020 election fraud bs go. Kamala got 15-20mil less votes than Biden because she was a God awful fucking candidate like Archie said on the previous page, not because they spawned those Biden votes out of thin air.

To those saying don’t blame the voters……. nah, I think I’m good blaming voters.

3 things....


1). All the votes aren't counted yet. Harris will get close to 71 million votes in the end. Trump about 76.


2). College education does not equal intelligence. People who get degrees in Far East social studies does not get to count in the intelligent category. People who work as a mechanic in a big auto corp in a Michigan on the inverse is possibly intelligent but finds it unnecessary to get a degree.


3) i agree with rhodora. Left is very out of touch with reality - deeply in their bubble. That includes a lot of this board. Doesn't sound like a lot of these takes exists in the confines of every day life. Watch a Kieslowski movie and get a snapshot of everyday life. Might get a slightly better picture on why people went with Trump instead. Tho I will admit Harris was hurt greatly by Bidens awful administration, so by association she was blamed for his failures.

THEIRS FFS

After 4 years of already living under Trump, it’s incomprehensible to not want to get off your ass and vote against the orange shitstain because the other candidate doesn’t meet your ideal fucking criteria.

people saying it was just the economy... nah it's also Trump's ubiquity. He's literally too big to fail and was right when he joked that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue. Dems don't have the messaging to pierce through that level of charisma and populist appeal and shit like "they're eating the dogs!" just helps him. He is genuinely what voters wanted in 2024 regardless of Harris' weakness. Economy helped him definitely but it wasn't just the economy. If it was just the economy the red wave would've happened in 2022.

also can't underestimate how irrevocably redpilled GenZ is... the warning signs were there and now it's a 5-alarm fire. Not just zoomers but millennials too. My brother in his mid 30s has always had an anarchist/cynical streak ("taxes is theft"-type bullshit) but at least he was honest about his political apathy and wasn't sucked in by Trump's bro-y populism. He was telling me how Trump's assassination attempt convinced him to finally register and vote for the first time. He legit was saying 3 years ago that Trump is an idiot and Trump voters are assholes (got into a road rage incident with one with me in the car, that was a fun experience ), but he's also divorced and hasn't had any luck with dating so he plunged head-first into the manosphere starting with people like Rogan and Peterson before finding Andrew Tate (is there anything more embarrassing than an Andrew Tate fan in his mid 30s??). The very first vote he ever cast was in this election for Trump.

We got into a fight about politics a few weeks ago (why I got snippy around here a few times... mood was very low and that's where it was coming from) and it was instantly clear we were ideologically on different islands. What struck me was when I was talking about the women who had been killed because of abortion restrictions or women with miscarriages being investigated as criminals, or that young girl in Ohio who had been raped and had to travel out of state for healthcare, his only response was that he didn't care. That truly what it comes down to and that's why I'm so worried about the future. So many people just don't care. He's making over 130k by the way, working for the Koch Bros. It's entirely culture-war stuff for him. Antiwoke and antifeminist burn-it-all down chauvinism. Social media and internet broke our brains and lonely men are going to get lonelier and angrier, powered entirely by terminally-online brainrot schadenfreude. But hey, who needs a GF when you got your homies in r/wallstreetbets