the official 2024 US Presidential Election thread

* The Democratic Party - since 2017 at least - is a party of asshole college professors..........  liberal arts majors (um)........white collar jerk-offs.......I mean heck that last one is ME .......

* There has never been a modern Republican that had the diverse mix of voters than Trump had yesterday......he's a PoS but it's a historic, seismic shift ............it just is......may not last.........but it might...........for a few cycles anyway..........

Adam McKay is absolutely going nuts on the dems lmao

Hey at least I didn’t vote for Trump amirite?

the liberal finger-pointing is more annoying than MAGA.

Genuinely curious what the Cheney-truthers think Harris should've run on in a climate where majority of people said they were worse off than 4 years ago and massively upset about the economy and sitting admin. Name one policy that would've netted her more votes. Name any other dem candidate who would've netted more votes. Biden successfully ran the same kind of unity messaging in 2020 and flipped red strongholds. America is a rightwing country and has been consistently sliding right since 2016. If Biden hadn't appealed to the middle he would've lost in 2020 (which would've been better for the country turns out lol), and if it hadn't been for COVID he definitely would've lost, but that speaks more to USA's rightward drift and Trump's popularity than anything else.

LFG!!!!!!!!!!

They won't because that's not how inflation works, we're not going to have actual deflation, and the president has no control over how much eggs cost. A lot of people are going to be really disappointed when they realize there's not a magic button in the oval office to bring back pre COVID prices. 

Nah 2028 GOP ticket is going to be Vance, and there's no way Harris comes back after this shellacking.

* They have a serious charisma problem that those 2 Rock Stars ^ didn't have to worry about...I used to say this all the time when we had a Politics board ....it was 2012 that split the country.......Romney wasn't a great candidate but they basically called milquetoast tweed jacket Mitt Romney a sexist and a racist  ........Trump just appeared in that ugly void............Trump is "like" Reagan in that way - the man (whatever) and the crossroads moment .....for 12 years.......

* I think the picking of Vance was an attempt to signal an actual MAGA successor.........I could see a Vance / Rubio ticket.........unless my Democrat Party comes back - it'll be Mayor Pete and some frightening Greta Thunberg type that hasn't emerged yet.......but when she does it will be tree hugging, safe spaces, Fascism From The Left (they kill you with kindness of course) and illogical equity all the fucking time  

You seem upset, understandably... And THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE WON post-mortem talk has always struck me as stupid, but... Well... 

It may have been impossible to distance herself from a perceived failed administration that she was a part of, but she wasn't Treasury, she wasn't State, she could have at least TRIED. She had seemingly no interest in trying (there wasn't a THING that she'd have changed, remember).

Any candidate who had the guts to do so would have surely been smarter, whether or not they'd have done better is anyone's guess. Any candidate who would have been a better talker, a more confident one... I'm not saying Pete Buttigieg is the guy, but he's a guy who's been doing the rounds these past months who was a far better speaker in terms of both content and delivery (under far less pressure, obviously). Presentation, sadly, matters. Was hers good?

To say she should have distanced herself from Israel is obviously pie in the sky fantasizing, she would never do it, probably no candidate who would do it would be in the position she was in to begin with, but when you're part of the administration sending billions overseas and you have a chance to say you're going to scale back, and you just keep parroting the same garbage fucking party line over and over again? That seems to me like it might strike potential voters struggling to make ends meet as you funnel endless cash elsewhere as completely heartless. To those who have friends/family/people they empathize with over there being butchered it might come off completely fucking inhuman. There were warning signs too. They were presumably ignored in favour of deciding to pander to others.

Yes, it's much harder when you're incumbent and people are not happy, and nobody with a brain would say you shouldn't appeal to the middle, but the key is not just to appeal to the middle, but to appeal to as many people as possible, and (beyond picking Walz) she only seemed interested in the middle. She was more into Liz Cheney and Mark Cuban than the Unions (Bernie Sanders - "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them").

Saying Biden wouldn't have won without COVID sounds like unfair rewriting of the past, or post-traumatic stress or something! As Harris has suffered now, surely Trump suffered from being incumbent through tough times then, but Biden didn't just win because of the middle or the pandemic, he won because of George Floyd and BLM, and "very fine people on both sides", and Muslim bans. He was in a position to do that as the opposition. She was not. But there were protests across the country this past year she could have played too. She didn't. 

How did these guys appeal to those voters this time? By sending Bill Clinton out to talk about King fucking David, or the Obama's out to guilt trip black men into voting for their soulless candidate or else they'd be letting down the women in their lives (concern about funding Israel's barbarism, or discontent with the way things are = rage). It was all eerily reminiscent of that stupid bastard going to Flint in 2016 and drinking that glass of water. Very 'We don't actually give a fuck about you'. Isn't the idea that these people are supposed to be representatives of the people?

However comically strong Trump might be with his base, he basically got where he is by pretending to be Bernie Sanders, while these guys left the actual Bernie Sanders sat on the sidelines. Twice. To say the US is drifting right like the world is a steep slope that cannot be escaped and not something that has been carved by the people in power is to let them off the hook. The rejection of a party sliding right is your only hope (hope, not guarantee) to keep them from shifting further that way.

To anyone who read all that, thank you for coming to my TED Talk, apologies for any typos, and hugs and kisses to all my worried brothers and sisters in the new world. You might as well have stuck with old King George.

nah if this mans wasn’t 195 he’d still cook as the president

Is this Project 2025 thing for real? Or just some "conspiracy theory" ?

r*ddit is taking it well