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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 19, 2024 22:52:17 GMT
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 19, 2024 22:57:27 GMT
Hey
So I heard Gauff's coach hung out with Zendaya at Challengers premiere few days ago.
Promptly getting Gauff to clarify that he has not in fact gotten someone new to coach.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 19, 2024 23:05:10 GMT
Martina Navratilova, Billie Jean King and Serena Williams for tennis. Federica Pellegrini (the only woman who qualified for the finals in 5 different Olympic Games for the same individual race) for swimming. Nadia Comaneci (first girl who deserved a round 10) and Simone Biles for gymnastics. Florence Griffith Joyner for athletics.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 19, 2024 23:13:55 GMT
Hey So I heard Gauff's coach hung out with Zendaya at Challengers premiere few days ago. Promptly getting Gauff to clarify that he has not in fact gotten someone new to coach. Gauff is a potental advertsing dynamo - and like I said - unlike Biles she's a "real" athlete to me ............BUT Gauff never beats Swiatek - their head to head is 9-1 for Iga..........if that became a real rivalry it would be fucking awesome ..........in tennis rivalries are everything - for the sport and outside of it Iga's English sounds a little better btw - I saw her get interviewed today......she's getting there....... ![](https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2022%2F0604%2Fr1021241_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg)
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Post by quetee on Apr 20, 2024 0:40:27 GMT
Caitlin is getting overhyed. She still needs to perform as a pro first. Look at what happened with Lonzo Ball. He's a bust.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 20, 2024 1:04:45 GMT
Oh my god.... Jason Whitlock is getting cooked in his replies and ratio'd in that silly tweet he made about Simone Biles & Caitlin Clark
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Post by countjohn on Apr 20, 2024 1:57:17 GMT
The Simone Biles haterade on here is pretty random..... ![:uhoh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/c8bbBnLz3a98Jzy_29H2.gif)
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 20, 2024 2:03:00 GMT
The Simone Biles haterade on here is pretty random..... ![:uhoh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/c8bbBnLz3a98Jzy_29H2.gif) Is it though? I'd say it's rather calculated.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2024 2:14:16 GMT
The Simone Biles haterade on here is pretty random..... ![:uhoh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/c8bbBnLz3a98Jzy_29H2.gif) Not really - it's pretty specific - it's just not a sport with Biles......and she gets outgrossed financially by 5 times by Clark just this week and Clark hasn't played a game yet..........I mean I have no problem with people saying Biles is more famous worldwide than Clark - but I don't consider her a sports person - her "sport" is a voted on performance exhibition imo For this thread Coco Gauff is to me a better pick.......... Also btw Clark can not be overhyped because she's a singular player - I mean the hype goes with the territory because no one else is in her territoty - ever : * Caitlin Clark is the only player - male or female - in D-I history to ever record 3,000 points and 1,000 assists in her career - ESPN
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Post by quetee on Apr 20, 2024 17:22:07 GMT
Oh my god.... Jason Whitlock is getting cooked in his replies and ratio'd in that silly tweet he made about Simone Biles & Caitlin Clark
For good reason, she hasn't won anything yet.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 20, 2024 17:26:59 GMT
Oh my god.... Jason Whitlock is getting cooked in his replies and ratio'd in that silly tweet he made about Simone Biles & Caitlin Clark
For good reason, she hasn't won anything yet. But she's the gOaT....apparently
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2024 17:28:10 GMT
* Simone Biles isn't exactly an athlete to me......... ![:laugh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/30ulL7PvEvGt97femFHx.gif) ..........ok she is but not the same as CC, Gauff or Lindsey Vonn or Morgan.........FloJo is an Olympic athlete to me far more than Simone Biles.......no "sport" is exclusively judged by others - that's a performance competition not (exactly) a sport - it's a performative competition that humans judge ...... also Simone Biles makes like 5 million a year in endorsements.........CC can make that playing 8 games in the Big Three for a couple weeks.........just sayin............
He's not wrong people ![:devil:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/O4cyHtUVHMQsY84icsLl.gif) .........and ..........CC has already blown past Biles in money and name / face recognitionn in the US certainly - and if she hasn't she is going to blow past her as she plays games in a couple months...........and again Biles isn't really an athlete imo......... Gauff is a better African American example of a current popular female athlete than Biles is .........
Isn't she winning her THIRD Gold medal in just a couple of months? ............... ![:laugh:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/30ulL7PvEvGt97femFHx.gif) Just sayin'.........
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Post by quetee on Apr 20, 2024 18:20:26 GMT
For good reason, she hasn't won anything yet. But she's the gOaT....apparently at self-promotion, maybe. As for the other thing, the jury is still out. We have no idea deas if she's the next Steph or Lonzo. Remember, before Lonzo's pro debut, people were selling those summer league tickets for 1k. Now nobody cares.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 20, 2024 19:20:21 GMT
But she's the gOaT....apparently at self-promotion, maybe. As for the other thing, the jury is still out. We have no idea deas if she's the next Steph or Lonzo. Remember, before Lonzo's pro debut, people were selling those summer league tickets for 1k. Now nobody cares. I think Lonzo is a bit of a stretch as an an analogy because she played 4 years in college so is more of a proven commodity. Lonzo was a "project" with an underdeveloped game who was drafted on raw ability, like most the NBA one and done guys. She's definitely going to be a star in the WNBA, the question is whether she'll be your standard good WNBA player who goes for around 20 a game or keep going for 25-30 and shatter all their scoring records. There's probably going to be a learning curve in any case so it will be interesting to see if the interest is maintained if she's only going for like 15 a game her rookie year on a bad team and not dropping 30 on people anymore.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 20, 2024 19:29:17 GMT
at self-promotion, maybe. As for the other thing, the jury is still out. We have no idea deas if she's the next Steph or Lonzo. Remember, before Lonzo's pro debut, people were selling those summer league tickets for 1k. Now nobody cares. I think Lonzo is a bit of a stretch as an an analogy because she played 4 years in college so is more of a proven commodity. Lonzo was a "project" with an underdeveloped game who was drafted on raw ability, like most the NBA one and done guys. She's definitely going to be a star in the WNBA, the question is whether she'll be your standard good WNBA player who goes for around 20 a game or keep going for 25-30 and shatter all their scoring records. There's probably going to be a learning curve in any case so it will be interesting to see if the interest is maintained if she's only going for like 15 a game her rookie year on a bad team and not dropping 30 on people anymore. Yeah, plus even when Lonzo was coming out, a lot of the hype came about from his father's pre-draft promotional tour and the fact he was going to be drafted by the always overhyped Lakers with the #2 pick because Lonzo wasn't seen as good enough to be the #1.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2024 19:46:25 GMT
at self-promotion, maybe. As for the other thing, the jury is still out. We have no idea deas if she's the next Steph or Lonzo. Remember, before Lonzo's pro debut, people were selling those summer league tickets for 1k. Now nobody cares. I think Lonzo is a bit of a stretch as an an analogy because she played 4 years in college so is more of a proven commodity. * Lonzo sure didn't get anywhere near 3, 000 points and 1,000 assists anyway ..........and neither did Steph Curry at this age either ...........I mean I don't know off the top of my head what Steph Curry got at Davidson ........but since nobody else did it in Divison 1 ever, I know he still missed and what not * CC may fail in the WNBA but nothing about her is self-promotion at all - her records ARE the hype - and she's WON at every level - I mean she took a team of doughy, pasty white girls to the title game 2 years in a row on her back ......... she's won Gold Medals........she will win a Gold Medal this summer.......she's only 22 years old ffs ........this will be her 4th Gold Medal * Clark does have experience on the international stage, but only on the junior level, winning gold medals at the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups and the 2017 FIBA U16 Americas Championship......................3 days ago - LA TIMES
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 21, 2024 21:06:19 GMT
Hey ya'll I know ya'll love Caitlin Clark. I'll play the liker here. I know she's good, but I can't really LOVE her because I don't watch women's basketball in general, and I can't muster up the energy to watch many WNBA games. So she's Djokovic to me. She's obviously the best at her sport, but I don't watch men's tennis. But how about some love for Livvy Dunne? She has the leg up over Caitlin because she's kinda won something. (we can argue the significance of gymnastics as a sport tho) She's probably just as popular to some folks. And unlike her fellow loser alum quitter Hailey Van Lith (now a TCU Horn Frog.... better than Texas tho)...... she's not likely to bomb at the next level. ![](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/21/13/83909603-13333227-image-a-1_1713701961431.jpg)
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2024 21:21:54 GMT
But how about some love for Livvy Dunne? She has the leg up over Caitlin because she's kinda won something. (we can argue the significance of gymnastics as a sport tho) She's quite cute.... BUT Gymnastics ain't a sport buddy.....sorry............. and Caitlan Clark has won 3 Gold medals - and will win her 4th in a couple months this Summer at the Olympics------that "she hasn't won anything yet" is a FNCKING lie.........also it's possibly a racist lie spread by dumbasses who think Angel Reese should have a 28 million dollar Nike shoe deal too or some such bullshit Clark does have experience on the international stage, but only on the junior level, winning gold medals at the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups and the 2017 FIBA U16 Americas Championship.4 days ago LA TIMES
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 21, 2024 21:34:18 GMT
But how about some love for Livvy Dunne? She has the leg up over Caitlin because she's kinda won something. (we can argue the significance of gymnastics as a sport tho) She's quite cute.... BUT Gymnastics ain't a sport buddy.....sorry............. and Caitlan Clark has won 3 World Gold medals - and will win her 4th in a couple months this Summer at the Olympics------that "she hasn't won anything yet" is a FNCKING lie.........also it's possibly a racist lie spread by dumbasses who think Angel Reese should have a 28 million dollar Nike shoe deal too or some such bullshit Clark does have experience on the international stage, but only on the junior level, winning gold medals at the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups and the 2017 FIBA U16 Americas Championship.4 days ago LA TIMES This gymnastics ain't a sport take is a take I'm not gonna ride. It's subjective for sure, but it's still a sport. Not gonna care about no Under-18 Gold Medals. As for summer Olympics..... US hasn't lost that since 1980, so I'm not gonna ride that either. We just wait to have this talk again in a few years when she wins a WNBA title. That's gottaa be the starting point. Like I said, I know you dig her, and you're probably sick of the "she hasn't won anything" comments. And you're Clarky for life, but I don't place her as #1 for everything yet. Long way to go before touching Gods like Jordan and Messi. Just how I see things.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2024 21:47:38 GMT
She's quite cute.... BUT Gymnastics ain't a sport buddy.....sorry............. and Caitlan Clark has won 3 World Gold medals - and will win her 4th in a couple months this Summer at the Olympics------that "she hasn't won anything yet" is a FNCKING lie.........also it's possibly a racist lie spread by dumbasses who think Angel Reese should have a 28 million dollar Nike shoe deal too or some such bullshit Clark does have experience on the international stage, but only on the junior level, winning gold medals at the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups and the 2017 FIBA U16 Americas Championship.4 days ago LA TIMES This gymnastics ain't a sport take is a take I'm not gonna ride. It's subjective for sure, but it's still a sport. Not gonna care about no Under-18 Gold Medals. As for summer Olympics..... US hasn't lost that since 1980, so I'm not gonna ride that either. Long way to go before touching Gods like Jordan and Messi. * 2 of the World Titles were over 16 (she was 17 in 1 against 18+ older players and she was 19 in the other) - so she has won something - and done it twice against adults - and to say she hasn't won anthing is objectively false and dumbfuck...........also we know she's winning that Olympic Gold ........ as for that WNBA title - ok I'll wait it out ........and no she ain't Messi, Jordan or Djokovic * But I stand by the no gymnasts thing...........not buying it. It's "half a sport" .........so it's a kind of sport but not really, ftw....... For most, they feel sports have two major components: 1) athleticism, and 2) a clear objective winner. Gymnastics lacks the second component. Games like poker and chess satisfy the second condition, but not the first.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 21, 2024 22:00:07 GMT
This gymnastics ain't a sport take is a take I'm not gonna ride. It's subjective for sure, but it's still a sport. Not gonna care about no Under-18 Gold Medals. As for summer Olympics..... US hasn't lost that since 1980, so I'm not gonna ride that either. Long way to go before touching Gods like Jordan and Messi. * 2 of those world titles were over 18 so she has won something, and did it twice - and to say she hasn't won anthing is objectively false and dumbfuck...........also we know she's winning that Olympic Gold ........ as for that WNBA title - ok I'll wait it out ........and no she ain't Messi, Jordan or Djokovic * But I stand by the no gymnasts thing...........not buying it. It's "half a sport" .........so it's a kind of sport but not really, ftw....... For most, they feel sports have two major components: 1) athleticism, and 2) a clear objective winner. Gymnastics lacks the second component. Games like poker and chess satisfy the second condition, but not the first.Boxing doesn't always have a clear, objective winner either.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2024 22:04:08 GMT
* 2 of those world titles were over 18 so she has won something, and did it twice - and to say she hasn't won anthing is objectively false and dumbfuck...........also we know she's winning that Olympic Gold ........ as for that WNBA title - ok I'll wait it out ........and no she ain't Messi, Jordan or Djokovic * But I stand by the no gymnasts thing...........not buying it. It's "half a sport" .........so it's a kind of sport but not really, ftw....... For most, they feel sports have two major components: 1) athleticism, and 2) a clear objective winner. Gymnastics lacks the second component. Games like poker and chess satisfy the second condition, but not the first.Boxing doesn't always have a clear, objective winner either. True, but it does give the opportunity for it ........gymnastics never does that........so boxing is slightly ahead of gymnastics but slightly behind everything else........gymnastics, to me, is closer to synchronized swimming ..........I'm joking, but you can never really tell with me
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 21, 2024 22:12:48 GMT
Boxing doesn't always have a clear, objective winner either. True, but it does give the opportunity for it ........gymnastics never does that........so boxing is slightly ahead of gymnastics but slightly behind everything else........gymnastics, to me, is closer to synchronized swimming ..........I'm joking, but you can never really tell with me What about figure ice skating? Every element has a value.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 21, 2024 22:24:05 GMT
True, but it does give the opportunity for it ........gymnastics never does that........so boxing is slightly ahead of gymnastics but slightly behind everything else........gymnastics, to me, is closer to synchronized swimming ..........I'm joking, but you can never really tell with me What about figure ice skating? Every element has a value. * Isn't part of the value humans judging the artistic expression? * If so, then that is subjective and not an objective winner.........that is the whole beauty of sports that we can agree that the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl and people can keep their "opinions" out of t.........now I will say that there is a subjetive element in all sports (ie what happened to Sinner at Monte Caro) - but Gymnastics and other such sports is weighed too heaviy on human perception and feelings........ It doesn't bother me if people feel they are sports but for this thread, for me, Coco Gauff - among many, many others - is a more serious athlete than any gymnast ....
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 21, 2024 22:36:50 GMT
What about figure ice skating? Every element has a value. * Isn't part of the value humans judging the artistic expression? * If so, then that is subjective and not an objective winner.........that is the whole beauty of sports that we can agree that the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl and people can keep their "opinions" out of t.........now I will say that there i s a subjetive element in all sports (ie what happened to Sinner at Monte Caro) - but Gymnastics and other such sports is weighed too heaviy on human perception and feelings........ It doesn't bother me if people feel they are sports but for this thread, for me, Coco Gauff - among many, many others - is a more serious athlete than any gymnast .... You have no idea of how many hours practice per day are required for gymnastics and ice skating. I attended a bunch of Swiss national figure ice skating Championships, and the impression live is totally different than TV. They don't do it for glory, mostly for passion, and that's the spirit of sports.
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