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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2022 18:14:44 GMT
I actually think this is a somewhat huge deal but also a huge publicity stunt - it in some ways raises the border issue - possibly for Midterms and if not for 2024 certainly .......it plays into your your partisanship views already too - it's either "fair" (a Republican POV) or "a human rights violation (at least)" (a Democratic POV)........and actually in many ways this pits American Republican Governors against American Democratic Mayors which is one component of our inevitable civil war (that was a joke) DeSantis below and the plane with immigrants to Martha's Vineyard to visit the Obama's and stuff......:
(CNN)Two planes carrying migrants were sent by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to Martha's Vineyard on Wednesday night, his office said, infuriating Democratic politicians and prompting a frenzied response that included humanitarian aid by locals and assistance by Massachusetts officials. |
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 15, 2022 21:56:45 GMT
The way I see it these illegals are being transported for free to sanctuary cities/states where they’ll be given healthcare, tuition and other basic human rights unlike in the fascist shitholes of Texas and Florida where they would’ve been racially abused and shit by neo nazis and other white supremacists. Martha’s Vineyard, aside from the Obama Royal Family, is practically a white ethnostate too and could use some more color It’s funny to me how republicans and others on the right are actually split on this. Some say no, you’re just pushing them deeper into the country and red governors should just deport them themselves (even though they have no authority to do so), while others are all for this since it’s really the only, best and obvious option at this time. Make it a problem for blue states who voted for these sanctuary city policies in the first place. Give the people what they want! I thought democrats were all in favor of letting illegals swarm into the country, or was that only because they were under the assumption they’d all be going to red states to turn them blue?  |
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 15, 2022 22:02:46 GMT
pacinoyes I also gotta say you’re starting to sound a lot like Tim Pool with all this civil war talk 
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 15, 2022 22:25:39 GMT
pacinoyes I also gotta say you’re starting to sound a lot like Tim Pool with all this civil war talk Somebody photoshop the beanie onto Pacino |
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Post by flasuss on Sept 15, 2022 22:49:44 GMT
Seems to me they're wasting money in a political stunt. I also don't know if these people are going voluntarily or not.
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 15, 2022 23:47:28 GMT
human trafficking to own the libs
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 16, 2022 3:13:32 GMT
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 16, 2022 4:12:05 GMT
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Post by flasuss on Sept 16, 2022 11:40:51 GMT
We'll see if they'll keep on doing that after a couple of months. So your response to the news "people band together to help poor immigrants used by politicians in shameless political stunt with public funds that also likely is a human trafficking crime" is "we'll see if they keep doing it if the politicians continue to use public funds in a shameless political stunt that is also likely a criminal offense for several months". That says a lot more like you than about them. |
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 16, 2022 12:17:40 GMT
We'll see if they'll keep on doing that after a couple of months. So your response to the news "people band together to help poor immigrants used by politicians in shameless political stunt with public funds that also likely is a human trafficking crime" is "we'll see if they keep doing it if the politicians continue to use public funds in a shameless political stunt that is also likely a criminal offense for several months". That says a lot more like you than about them. Simply an observation of what happened here with Ukrainian refugees. People housed them and gave them clothes, food and free medical care. But after a couple of months, locals began having issues with giving their rooms for free, paying them electricity and heating system, and buying them groceries. If the confederation or the state doesn't give you money and help, you can't support people forever. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 16, 2022 13:48:13 GMT
That's the perfect way to describe him. Imho, the whole thing is stupid and he looks like an even bigger moron and clown on a daily. Had someone sent immigrants to his home he would be pulling an Eastwood. In fact, let's overpopulate his neighborhood with black Americans and let's see him complain about property value. Cue biggest eye roll ever. I mean ever. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 16, 2022 14:16:11 GMT
So I honestly hadn't been paying attention to this and thought that this was a joint effort with Massachusetts. But no, he just straight up deported them to another state. Fuck that.
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Post by dazed on Sept 16, 2022 14:34:53 GMT
what a fucking asshole
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 16, 2022 15:44:49 GMT
Le enfant terrible.
I love it. Kamala is a menopausic woman without children with her salary she could adopt a dozen of blond and blue eyes Venezuelan children!!!
Venezuelan and Cuban Children are like the children of United Colors of Benetton. Chose the color that you prefer. LOL
AND pay then a mexican nnany and a mexican chauffer to take care of them.
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 16, 2022 15:53:34 GMT
So your response to the news "people band together to help poor immigrants used by politicians in shameless political stunt with public funds that also likely is a human trafficking crime" is "we'll see if they keep doing it if the politicians continue to use public funds in a shameless political stunt that is also likely a criminal offense for several months". That says a lot more like you than about them. Simply an observation of what happened here with Ukrainian refugees. People housed them and gave them clothes, food and free medical care. But after a couple of months, locals began having issues with giving their rooms for free, paying them electricity and heating system, and buying them groceries. If the confederation or the state doesn't give you money and help, you can't support people forever. Ukranian women had destroyed more brittish marriages than Sienna Miller. According to the Sun news Men are happy with their New foreign wives. Its the closer thing will ever being of Milla Jovich or Sharapova. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 16, 2022 16:03:11 GMT
Um......its going to be great if these 2 dudes are (y)our 2024 POTUS candidates: "Remember the time you tried to have me arrested for kidnapping - hey how're all those homeless in San Francisco btw?" ........"That's only because you literally kidnapped them - you fat little dwarf!"......good times, good times......  |
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 16, 2022 16:33:21 GMT
Eramos pocos y parió trillizos dijo la partera!!!
Esto pasa por tener a un viejo gaga de Presidente. Es la decadencia del Imperio Américano, tras la infantilización de la política.-
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 16, 2022 16:38:17 GMT
If this is kidnapping or human trafficking then what do you call what the Biden admin was doing a few months ago when they were putting these same illegals on busses and planes and shipping them off to Florida and other red areas? Or are we choosing to forget that that was a thing the Biden admin was doing? I love it when these people accuse you of doing what they did just a few months prior. Whether it’s this example or calling the Russians war criminals for bombing civilians just a few months after Biden and his cronies obliterated an innocent Afghan family for fun after the botched withdrawal and got away with it with hardly any criticism thrown at them for it. I know I’m gonna hear cries of whataboutism. I don’t care, I don’t want to hear it. Whataboutism is a buzzword the left loves to use when they need to excuse their own hypocrisy, but I don’t think they’re hypocrites. You can’t be a hypocrite if you have no principles in the first place. If a couple dozen at Martha’s Vineyard is a crisis then what do you call THOUSANDS at the actual southern border? If the illegals are deported, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re sent to blue states and cities, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re left abandoned at some bus stop in a Texas border town, dems will bitch and moan. They won’t be satisfied unless the red states keep them and incur all the costs of providing for them. Keep sending more planes full of illegals at these blue cities until it completely breaks and destabilizes them. These places have been relaxing crime laws too in the name of criminal justice reform so I think this is also a good opportunity to maybe open up some of our prisons and let our inmates go to another state where they won’t be considered criminals or felons in such dehumanizing fashion. You voted for these policies, now live with it
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 16, 2022 17:01:05 GMT
If this is kidnapping or human trafficking then what do you call what the Biden admin was doing a few months ago when they were putting these same illegals on busses and planes and shipping them off to Florida and other red areas? Or are we choosing to forget that that was a thing the Biden admin was doing? I love it when these people accuse you of doing what they did just a few months prior. Whether it’s this example or calling the Russians war criminals for bombing civilians just a few months after Biden and his cronies obliterated an innocent Afghan family for fun after the botched withdrawal and got away with it with hardly any criticism thrown at them for it. I know I’m gonna hear cries of whataboutism. I don’t care, I don’t want to hear it. Whataboutism is a buzzword the left loves to use when they need to excuse their own hypocrisy, but I don’t think they’re hypocrites. You can’t be a hypocrite if you have no principles in the first place. If a couple dozen at Martha’s Vineyard is a crisis then what do you call THOUSANDS at the actual southern border? If the illegals are deported, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re sent to blue states and cities, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re left abandoned at some bus stop in a Texas border town, dems will bitch and moan. They won’t be satisfied unless the red states keep them and incur all the costs of providing for them. Keep sending more planes full of illegals at these blue cities until it completely breaks and destabilizes them. These places have been relaxing crime laws too in the name of criminal justice reform so I think this is also a good opportunity to maybe open up some of our prisons and let our inmates go to another state where they won’t be considered criminals or felons in such dehumanizing fashion. You voted for these policies, now live with it if people in question consent to being sent to whatever location and they're sent there by the government then i don't really have any issue with it - in this specific case that's not what happened. i have no doubt the current admin has engaged in this too. |
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 16, 2022 17:15:37 GMT
Poor People they were translated from Martha's Vineyard in less than 24 hours to a Military Camp in Cape Code.-
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 16, 2022 17:36:33 GMT
It's not that these migrants were sent to a blue state that makes it a crisis lol. It's how they were sent and the reasons for sending them. This isn't DeSantis and Abbott going through proper channels to process migrants, this is DeSantis using taxpayer dollars for a cheap and dehumanizing political stunt that really looks creepy when you read about this "Perla" person who was actively trying to persuade these migrants to board the plane and lying to them about its destination promising them work and help (i.e. how human traffickers lure victims). There's no way to spin this to make it look not creepy. He could've been an asshole so much more subtly and just quietly traffic these migrants, but he comes off as a cartoon bully on the national stage to score political points and he failed miserably lmao. Did he really have to have his communications people "take credit" for this stunt like they're the fucking Taliban claiming a bombing |
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 16, 2022 17:46:15 GMT
It's not that these migrants were sent to a blue state that makes it a crisis lol. It's how they were sent and the reasons for sending them. This isn't DeSantis and Abbott going through proper channels to process migrants, this is DeSantis using taxpayer dollars for a cheap and dehumanizing political stunt that really looks creepy when you read about this "Perla" person who was actively trying to persuade these migrants to board the plane and lying to them about its destination promising them work and help (i.e. how human traffickers lure victims). There's no way to spin this to make it look not creepy. He could've been an asshole so much more subtly and just quietly traffic these migrants, but he comes off as a cartoon bully on the national stage to score political points and he failed miserably lmao. Did he really have to have his communications people "take credit" for this stunt like they're the fucking Taliban claiming a bombing He prooves that Obama is hypocrite. Of course he is, after all he is a polititian. Every people in this f...ng world should knew it.- This is like the tale of the emperor's suit. the king is naked. Everybody have seen this.- Maybe it's bad for US, because the foreign perception is that US is a weak country, but on the other hand this fact destroys the elitist political class. The Obamas are so cowardly that they send the Governor of California to do their dirty work for them. Because the Obamas never get their hands dirty. So that, when they have faithful servants willing to sacrifice themselves for them.- |
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 16, 2022 17:52:23 GMT
If this is kidnapping or human trafficking then what do you call what the Biden admin was doing a few months ago when they were putting these same illegals on busses and planes and shipping them off to Florida and other red areas? Or are we choosing to forget that that was a thing the Biden admin was doing? I love it when these people accuse you of doing what they did just a few months prior. Whether it’s this example or calling the Russians war criminals for bombing civilians just a few months after Biden and his cronies obliterated an innocent Afghan family for fun after the botched withdrawal and got away with it with hardly any criticism thrown at them for it. I know I’m gonna hear cries of whataboutism. I don’t care, I don’t want to hear it. Whataboutism is a buzzword the left loves to use when they need to excuse their own hypocrisy, but I don’t think they’re hypocrites. You can’t be a hypocrite if you have no principles in the first place. If a couple dozen at Martha’s Vineyard is a crisis then what do you call THOUSANDS at the actual southern border? If the illegals are deported, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re sent to blue states and cities, dems will bitch and moan. If they’re left abandoned at some bus stop in a Texas border town, dems will bitch and moan. They won’t be satisfied unless the red states keep them and incur all the costs of providing for them. Keep sending more planes full of illegals at these blue cities until it completely breaks and destabilizes them. These places have been relaxing crime laws too in the name of criminal justice reform so I think this is also a good opportunity to maybe open up some of our prisons and let our inmates go to another state where they won’t be considered criminals or felons in such dehumanizing fashion. You voted for these policies, now live with it if people in question consent to being sent to whatever location and they're sent there by the government then i don't really have any issue with it - in this specific case that's not what happened. i have no doubt the current admin has engaged in this too. This is why I appreciate you, man - and Barbie too for that matter. We may not agree on most issues, aside from maybe some foreign policy stuff or celebrating the deaths of neocons, but you keep it real. You don’t act like some side is innocent and a force of good, you know everyone with these significant positions of power are rotten regardless of what letter comes before their name. Always nuanced. Hope you didn’t think all that stuff I said about the left was directed at you in particular or anything |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 16, 2022 17:52:26 GMT
He prooves that Obama is hypocrite. Of course he is, after all he is a polititian. Every people in this f...ng world should knew it.- This is like the tale of the emperor's suit. the king is naked. Everybody seen this.- well no, because the elitist libs of Martha's Vinyard rallied together to respond with kindness and decency. DeSantis called them on their bluff and they answered. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 16, 2022 18:03:06 GMT
He prooves that Obama is hypocrite. Of course he is, after all he is a polititian. Every people in this f...ng world should knew it.- This is like the tale of the emperor's suit. the king is naked. Everybody seen this.- well no, because the elitist libs of Martha's Vinyard rallied together to respond with kindness and decency. DeSantis called them on their bluff and they answered. Sending them to Martha's Vineyard that just showed that Desantis does not care about the people. He was more interested in political theatre than the well-being of the people involved with this show. |
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