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Post by stephen on Jan 12, 2022 17:04:12 GMT
I'm sure they are eligible. They're just not big names. You still have to be a member of SAG to receive a nod. It's like with QT, he can't get WGA nods cause he's not a member. I'm pretty sure they are SAG members. |
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2022 17:04:19 GMT
I'm looking at Gold Derby, and Gaga is not in top five.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 12, 2022 17:11:24 GMT
SAG and Oscar diverge quite a bit and let's hope that happens this year too because ay ay ay  |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 12, 2022 17:12:35 GMT
I'm so confused about lead actor. It's now Dinklage or... Bardem?!?  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2022 17:14:23 GMT
Why do you keep doubting her? I'm definitely not doubting the nom anymore, just think Kidman, Gaga and Colman all have a much higher chance of winning considering they have the stronger films and have already proven support with other wins (Globe, NYFCC, Gotham). Gaga and/or Kidman will have a BP nom and Colman will have Screenplay, plus Gaga might be dragging along Leto. Chastain has to compete with Kidman who has the same kind of performance, make-up heavy biopic in a film that didn't get that good reviews, and the momentum is with Nicole. You're fully delusional about this  You've got this Film Twitter/AwardsWorthy Forums hive mind mentality where you can't stand being wrong about anything. Kidman was always going to play extremely well with actors and the industry, something a lot of you types on Twitter or AwardsWorthy were not astute enough to recognise in efforts to trash Kidman to keep K-Stew the "unbeatable frontrunner " because she won a bunch of regional critics awards which will ultimately prove meaningless. |
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2022 17:19:48 GMT
I'm so confused about lead actor. It's now Dinklage or... Bardem?!? I hope it's Dinklage. The problem though is that his movie isn't really doing well right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 17:21:28 GMT
I'm so confused about lead actor. It's now Dinklage or... Bardem?!? I hope it's Dinklage. The problem though is that his movie isn't really doing well right now. If only the studio had actually released it... This is always the problem. I think it would have played at least moderately well over Christmas. |
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Post by stephen on Jan 12, 2022 17:22:04 GMT
I'm so confused about lead actor. It's now Dinklage or... Bardem?!? I hope it's Dinklage. The problem though is that his movie isn't really doing well right now. Dinklage has always felt something of a pipe dream, and when Cyrano missed out on Oscar shortlist categories it should by rights have made, that doubt only grew. I am not 100% sold on Bardem unless he makes BAFTA; I think DiCaprio winds up snatching that fifth spot by the end. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 12, 2022 17:27:26 GMT
I'm so confused about lead actor. It's now Dinklage or... Bardem?!? I hope it's Dinklage. The problem though is that his movie isn't really doing well right now. and Ricardos is unfortunately picking up a lot of steam. Kidman is now the frontrunner, Bardem now has GG and SAG noms, Simmons is in the running for supporting actor, it's getting in for screenplay and might even snag the 10th spot for picture. The power of Sorkin's mediocrity knows no bounds. |
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 12, 2022 17:32:52 GMT
I hope it's Dinklage. The problem though is that his movie isn't really doing well right now. and Ricardos is unfortunately picking up a lot of steam. Kidman is now the frontrunner, Bardem now has GG and SAG noms, Simmons is in the running for supporting actor, it's getting in for screenplay and might even snag the 10th spot for picture. The power of Sorkin's mediocrity knows no bounds. Gaga is less prestige but she has more going for her than Kidman: it would be her first, she's a box office pull, and her movie overperformed today (and I expect a PGA nomination too). I'm also curious to see how TLD does with BAFTA, as it could potentially get a Best Film nomination, which would put Colman in an interesting position. |
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2022 17:35:29 GMT
and Ricardos is unfortunately picking up a lot of steam. Kidman is now the frontrunner, Bardem now has GG and SAG noms, Simmons is in the running for supporting actor, it's getting in for screenplay and might even snag the 10th spot for picture. The power of Sorkin's mediocrity knows no bounds. Gaga is less prestige but she has more going for her than Kidman: it would be her first, she's a box office pull, and her movie overperformed today (and I expect a PGA nomination too). I'm also curious to see how TLD does with BAFTA, as it could potentially get a Best Film nomination, which would put Colman in an interesting position. I think we're gonna start seeing a HOG reversal. It would be silly not to nominate the movie. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2022 17:48:38 GMT
and Ricardos is unfortunately picking up a lot of steam. Kidman is now the frontrunner, Bardem now has GG and SAG noms, Simmons is in the running for supporting actor, it's getting in for screenplay and might even snag the 10th spot for picture. The power of Sorkin's mediocrity knows no bounds. Gaga is less prestige but she has more going for her than Kidman: it would be her first, she's a box office pull, and her movie overperformed today (and I expect a PGA nomination too). I'm also curious to see how TLD does with BAFTA, as it could potentially get a Best Film nomination, which would put Colman in an interesting position. played Lucille Ball, a Hollywood TV legend. As far as AMPAS is concerned that probably trumps Lady Gaga playing some homicidal Italian social climber who they probably never heard of before the movie. I think Kidman will win SAG, so it's hard to see a path for Gaga with winning without it. It's a race though. By virtue of the role, Kidman has much more going for where in the industry where this stuff matters. A film about the industry, where a respected actress plays another screen legend. AMPAS catnip. |
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 12, 2022 17:56:02 GMT
Gaga is less prestige but she has more going for her than Kidman: it would be her first, she's a box office pull, and her movie overperformed today (and I expect a PGA nomination too). I'm also curious to see how TLD does with BAFTA, as it could potentially get a Best Film nomination, which would put Colman in an interesting position. played Lucille Ball, a Hollywood TV legend. As far as AMPAS is concerned that probably trumps Lady Gaga playing some homicidal Italian social climber who they probably never heard of before the movie. By virtue of the role, Kidman has much more going for where in the industry where this stuff matters. A film about the industry, where a respected actress plays another screen legend. AMPAS catnip. Neither performance is good enough for the Oscar so it's not like we're talking about undeniable actresses here. I don't think Kidman's second is inevitable, though she's much stronger than I thought. I'm just curious to see what happens if Gaga wins SAG with Colman getting BAFTA. |
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2022 18:05:20 GMT
Kidman played Lucille Ball, a Hollywood TV legend. As far as AMPAS is concerned that probably trumps Lady Gaga playing some homicidal Italian social climber who they probably never heard of before the movie. By virtue of the role, Kidman has much more going for where in the industry where this stuff matters. A film about the industry, where a respected actress plays another screen legend. AMPAS catnip. Neither performance is good enough for the Oscar so it's not like we're talking about undeniable actresses here. I don't think Kidman's second is inevitable, though she's much stronger than I thought. I'm just curious to see what happens if Gaga wins SAG with Colman getting BAFTA. Gaga could win both. HOG overperformed on shortlist. |
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Post by flasuss on Jan 12, 2022 18:11:29 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but either one of the actor categories has potential for a random Lakeith Stansfield style of nomination
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2022 18:14:06 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but either one of the actor categories has potential for a random Lakeith Stansfield style of nomination You mean like Fran ending up in supporting? |
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 12, 2022 18:14:29 GMT
Neither performance is good enough for the Oscar so it's not like we're talking about undeniable actresses here. I don't think Kidman's second is inevitable, though she's much stronger than I thought. I'm just curious to see what happens if Gaga wins SAG with Colman getting BAFTA. Gaga could win both. HOG overperformed on shortlist. I really don't see Gaga win BAFTA, she's probably good enough for a nomination though. Colman is an moderately obvious pick for them, unless they choose Kidman too. |
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 12, 2022 18:21:12 GMT
Gaga could win both. HOG overperformed on shortlist. I really don't see Gaga win BAFTA, she's probably good enough for a nomination though. Colman is an moderately obvious pick for them, unless they choose Kidman too. The British advantage didn't help Colman last year when she lost to an actress from South Korea. And Kidman won BAFTA when she won the Oscar. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:21:41 GMT
It seems to me that the biggest takeaway from these nominations is not who was actually included but rather who was snubbed... (Stewart, the Belfast supporting actors)...
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 12, 2022 18:22:00 GMT
I really don't see Gaga win BAFTA, she's probably good enough for a nomination though. Colman is an moderately obvious pick for them, unless they choose Kidman too. The British advantage didn't help Colman last year when she lost to an actress from South Korea. And Kidman won BAFTA when she won the Oscar. I wasn't talking about British advantage. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 12, 2022 18:23:39 GMT
Kidman played Lucille Ball, a Hollywood TV legend. As far as AMPAS is concerned that probably trumps Lady Gaga playing some homicidal Italian social climber who they probably never heard of before the movie. By virtue of the role, Kidman has much more going for where in the industry where this stuff matters. A film about the industry, where a respected actress plays another screen legend. AMPAS catnip. Neither performance is good enough for the Oscar so it's not like we're talking about undeniable actresses here. I don't think Kidman's second is inevitable, though she's much stronger than I thought. I'm just curious to see what happens if Gaga wins SAG with Colman getting BAFTA. At this point though, Kidman (15 time SAG nominee, Golden Globe Best Actress winner playing legendary actress Lucille Ball) has to be favored to win SAG. Someone else might snatch it, but I guess right now she has to be the frontrunner. |
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Post by stephen on Jan 12, 2022 18:25:04 GMT
It seems to me that the biggest takeaway from these nominations is not who was actually included but rather who was snubbed... (Stewart, the Belfast supporting actors)... Will SAG follow suit and give Kodi Smit-McPhee the win, cementing his frontrunner status, or do we see Kotsur or even Leto/Cooper suddenly crash the party here? House of Gucci did very well here and he is giving THE MOST acting of the category (give or take a Bradley Cooper). And Cooper is still something of an unknown variant here. |
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Post by DanQuixote on Jan 12, 2022 18:26:23 GMT
I think Kotsur wins here.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 12, 2022 18:28:50 GMT
It seems to me that the biggest takeaway from these nominations is not who was actually included but rather who was snubbed... (Stewart, the Belfast supporting actors)... Will SAG follow suit and give Kodi Smit-McPhee the win, cementing his frontrunner status, or do we see Kotsur or even Leto/Cooper suddenly crash the party here? House of Gucci did very well here and he is giving THE MOST acting of the category (give or take a Bradley Cooper). And Cooper is still something of an unknown variant here. If Kodi wins here, I'd be kind of amazed because it's the such an anti-SAG performance. Kotsur is the threat here, he has a good narrative and he's in a nominated ensemble. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 18:29:58 GMT
It seems to me that the biggest takeaway from these nominations is not who was actually included but rather who was snubbed... (Stewart, the Belfast supporting actors)... Will SAG follow suit and give Kodi Smit-McPhee the win, cementing his frontrunner status, or do we see Kotsur or even Leto/Cooper suddenly crash the party here? House of Gucci did very well here and he is giving THE MOST acting of the category (give or take a Bradley Cooper). And Cooper is still something of an unknown variant here. Oh, I do think Smit-McPhee is the frontrunner - especially if this is the one category (beyond possibly Director) where they can honor the film. I'm wondering though if the major headline is that Stewart was snubbed, does that ironically benefit her in the end with Oscar voters? |
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