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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 20:48:02 GMT
NOPE... and that was not a reference to Peele's new movie. Jessica needs to sit her thirsty ass down. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 13, 2021 20:51:03 GMT
Jessica needs to sit her thirsty ass down. She’s so thirsty she’s starting to just look desperate. I still think she can score a nom though which is all that matters in the end (unless she thinks she can actually win). |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Dec 13, 2021 21:04:12 GMT
I agree - Chastain has one of the most sycophanty showbiz personalities. I get that she wants to be involved in the industry as much as she can by coming out and supporting Hollywood as often as she can (Nicole Kidman did that in the early 00s), but she truly acts like she's the New Hollywood girl, which I'm not sure she actually is.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 13, 2021 21:10:03 GMT
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 13, 2021 21:10:47 GMT
Jessica needs to sit her thirsty ass down. Wow. Can't believe Chastain actually said a public thank you to the Globes  .What happened to her solidarity with #TimesUp, who started the industry wide boycott against the Globes? Saying that, Chastain may actually win the Globe now, since at the moment she is the only star shameless enough to a acknowledge them when they are supposed to be persona non grata. Chastain has form for this though. She hired a filmmaker ( Matthew Newton) who was an abuser of women for his script for Ava, and refused to dump the project when he got exposed, despite claiming solidarity with #MeToo and all the rest of that shit. She's not a bad actress at all, but she epitomises the term showbiz phony. Has she not got a publicist on hand? She got a Critics Choice nod as well. All she needed to do was acknowledge them . It's alright, she'll have Sorkin write a letter defending her decision and post it on her social media profiles. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 13, 2021 22:29:59 GMT
The Power of the Snoop Dogg!
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 13, 2021 22:41:02 GMT
Karen Hinds baby!
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 13, 2021 22:48:35 GMT
I just don't quite understand why this particular movie's predictable awards success elicits that reaction from you. It's just such a typical example of a critic-proof awards contender. It's got prestige, huge stars, beloved director, political relevance and, perhaps most importantly, that air of let's-pat-ourselves-on-the-back smugness that Hollywood loves so much. Maybe that's why I'm seeing nothing surprising in it getting nominations and heading straight for a BP nomination - it seemed destined for it long before the reviews. Kinda like "The Reader"  Because the score is so bad. I wouldn't even mind if it was just picking up Best Actor nods with that score. Like I said, I've got a certain threshold I can live with for mediocre reviewed films to be picking up Best Picture mentions (probably 60% + on Rotten Tomatoes). But anything below that, I think is just a joke that needs to be called out. I was laughing at Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close when it got Best Pic citations as well. It isn't actually super-common for films with a Rotten score on RT to get Best Picture nodded. Are you saying you don't think a film with a 30% on RT could be one of the 10 best films of the year (in your opinion) and better than films with 98s on Metacritic? I didn't like the leaked DLU script, as I've said before, but I think assessing BP worthiness based on RT scores is a mistake. I think The Beach infinitely better than The Shape of Water, for instance, the latter a film I would have nommed for many razzies... I also liked The Reader and its direction, with some issues in the second half. Not more than Vicky Cristina Barcelona or TDK, but enough for me to understand the BP/BD nominations. I don't care that many reviewers alleged it was terrible; I simply didn't agree. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2021 23:19:22 GMT
Because the score is so bad. I wouldn't even mind if it was just picking up Best Actor nods with that score. Like I said, I've got a certain threshold I can live with for mediocre reviewed films to be picking up Best Picture mentions (probably 60% + on Rotten Tomatoes). But anything below that, I think is just a joke that needs to be called out. I was laughing at Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close when it got Best Pic citations as well. It isn't actually super-common for films with a Rotten score on RT to get Best Picture nodded. I didn't like the leaked DLU script, as I've said before, but I think assessing BP worthiness based on RT scores is a mistake. I think The Beach infinitely better than The Shape of Water, for instance, the latter a film I would have nommed for many razzies... I also liked The Reader and its direction, with some issues in the second half. Not more than Vicky Cristina Barcelona or TDK, but enough for me to understand the BP/BD nominations. I don't care that many reviewers alleged it was terrible; I simply didn't agree. Of course you're right - obviously right .........it's equating a fact (DLU has low RT score) with a personal mantra ("has to be " probably 60%+ on RT" - who gives a fnck? ).....that gap has always existed and predates our modern movies even.......there have been hated movies nodded for BP (see below) ................and those hated movies didn't star the biggest actor in the world and a filmmaker the Academy shows an affinity for like DLU does DOCTOR DOLITTLE
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 23:31:48 GMT
Are you saying you don't think a film with a 30% on RT could be one of the 10 best films of the year (in your opinion) and better than films with 98s on Metacritic? I didn't like the leaked DLU script, as I've said before, but I think assessing BP worthiness based on RT scores is a mistake. I think The Beach infinitely better than The Shape of Water, for instance, the latter a film I would have nommed for many razzies... I also liked The Reader and its direction, with some issues in the second half. Not more than Vicky Cristina Barcelona or TDK, but enough for me to understand the BP/BD nominations. I don't care that many reviewers alleged it was terrible; I simply didn't agree. Of course you're right - obviously right .........it's equating a fact (DLU has low RT score) with a personal mantra ("has to be " probably 60%+ on RT" - who gives a fnck? ).....that gap has always existed and predates our modern movies even.......there have been hated movies nodded for BP (see below) ................and those hated movies didn't star the biggest actor in the world and a filmmaker the Academy shows an affinity for like DLU does DOCTOR DOLITTLE
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 23:33:22 GMT
I guess at the end of the day, who knows why the Academy goes for one thing over the other. We have to keep in mind that it is a peer award. So the audience could be impressed by someone, but the actors/actresses could just be side-eying them.
I still to this day have no idea why Jackie Weaver scored a nod. If I had to guess, people just wrote her down because they needed to complete ballot.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 13, 2021 23:42:20 GMT
Of course you're right - obviously right .........it's equating a fact (DLU has low RT score) with a personal mantra ("has to be " probably 60%+ on RT" - who gives a fnck? ).....that gap has always existed and predates our modern movies even.......there have been hated movies nodded for BP (see below) ................and those hated movies didn't star the biggest actor in the world and a filmmaker the Academy shows an affinity for like DLU does DOCTOR DOLITTLE
G 1967, Musical/Kids & family, 2h 32m
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22 ReviewsThat rating is based on today's critics. I'm sure in the 60's, they loved the movie. They didn't - it was a critical and commercial flop. 20th Century Fox managed to push it into the BP lineup due to intense campaigning, lavish dinners, gifts, etc. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2021 23:43:02 GMT
Of course you're right - obviously right .........it's equating a fact (DLU has low RT score) with a personal mantra ("has to be " probably 60%+ on RT" - who gives a fnck? ).....that gap has always existed and predates our modern movies even.......there have been hated movies nodded for BP (see below) ................and those hated movies didn't star the biggest actor in the world and a filmmaker the Academy shows an affinity for like DLU does DOCTOR DOLITTLE
G 1967, Musical/Kids & family, 2h 32m
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22 ReviewsThat rating is based on today's critics. I'm sure in the 60's, they loved the movie. Oh, they most certainly did not love the movie - look up the movie, you'll laugh your head off Reviewing the film for The New York Times, Bosley Crowther wrote: "The music is not exceptional, the rendering of the songs lacks variety, and the pace, under Richard Fleischer's direction, is slow and without surprise."[52] Charles Champlin of the Los Angeles Times claimed "Doctor Dolittle, though it is beautiful, often funny, often charming, tuneful and gay, is in an odd way never really sentimentally moving, even in the sense that it sets up in us elders a yearning for lost youth. It is a picture we can greatly enjoy seeing our children enjoy, but without feeling quite at one with them."[53] Time magazine wrote negatively: "Somehow—with the frequent but by no means infallible exception of Walt Disney— Hollywood has never learned what so many children's book writers have known all along: size and a big budget are no substitutes for originality and charm."[54] Variety acknowledged the film as an "imperfect gem", but felt "there's sufficient values going for it to survive any barbs aimed at it by the critics."[55]
In his annual Movie Guide, critic and historian Leonard Maltin called the film a "colossal dud". Maltin admired the film's photography, but was quick to point out how it nearly bankrupted 20th Century Fox. He admitted: "The movie has one merit: If you have unruly children, it may put them to sleep."[56] On the review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 27% based on 22 reviews, with an average rating of 4.2/10.[57] At Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 34 out of 100 based on 6 critics, indicating "generally unfavorable reviews".[58]
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 23:52:37 GMT
Wow, okay, well money talks. Haha. I still can't believe critics didn't like Vertigo, back in the day.
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Post by hilderic on Dec 14, 2021 0:07:53 GMT
I understand where people are coming from but I find it unrealistic to expect the Golden Globes simply to wave goodbye and shut down like a failed start-up. They've been around since before the Normandy landings and are still the second most famous US film awards ceremony after the Oscars. Even last year, with the controversy fresh in people's minds (and a pandemic), they managed to draw almost 7M viewers, while the SAG (despite being, as I'm constantly told, infinitely more prestigious) couldn't muster even 1M.
Some (Joey Berlin, first of all) seem to think that if the Golden Globes are boycotted and flop, then there's room for another awards ceremony to become a big event. But will millions of viewers really start to care about the Critics' Choice Awards or SAG Awards because the LA Times told them to? I find that the most likely outcome is three flop awards ceremonies instead of two.
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Post by Javi on Dec 14, 2021 0:15:11 GMT
They only had 2 jobs this season: disproportionately love Ridley's movies and get Saint Penelope in there not Chastain's freakshow perf... shame on you HFPA  ... Lady Chasbeth's turning out to be quite the ruthless campaigner though, I'll give her that... scary stuff. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 14, 2021 0:21:01 GMT
That rating is based on today's critics. I'm sure in the 60's, they loved the movie. They didn't - it was a critical and commercial flop. 20th Century Fox managed to push it into the BP lineup due to intense campaigning, lavish dinners, gifts, etc. Maybe it was a critical flop, maybe it wasn't. But bringing up Rotten Tomatoes scores for the 1967 Doctor Doolittle is completely irrelevant, because all the RT reviews are from after the year 2000. We don't know how an average RT score for that film would have turned out in it's own time with a solid number of critics being counted. Maybe somewhere in the 60's. Who knows? Pointless to speculate. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 14, 2021 0:30:12 GMT
Because the score is so bad. I wouldn't even mind if it was just picking up Best Actor nods with that score. Like I said, I've got a certain threshold I can live with for mediocre reviewed films to be picking up Best Picture mentions (probably 60% + on Rotten Tomatoes). But anything below that, I think is just a joke that needs to be called out. I was laughing at Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close when it got Best Pic citations as well. It isn't actually super-common for films with a Rotten score on RT to get Best Picture nodded. Are you saying you don't think a film with a 30% on RT could be one of the 10 best films of the year (in your opinion) and better than films with 98s on Metacritic? I didn't like the leaked DLU script, as I've said before, but I think assessing BP worthiness based on RT scores is a mistake. I think The Beach infinitely better than The Shape of Water, for instance, the latter a film I would have nommed for many razzies... I also liked The Reader and its direction, with some issues in the second half. Not more than Vicky Cristina Barcelona or TDK, but enough for me to understand the BP/BD nominations. I don't care that many reviewers alleged it was terrible; I simply didn't agree. I do think a film with a low/Rotten Tomatometer can be brilliant (examples... Birth and Man On Fire), bit I also don't expect them to contend for things like Best Picture in the year they are released, because those low scores will obviously count them out of contention. Films that come out the gate with low critical scores like that, I expect to find their full audience and appreciation over time if they are great, as those movies have. So there is no contradiction in my stance. If those low scored films are truly great, they will eventually get appreciated. They don't need to compete for Best Picture Oscars. If Don't Look Up is great, let people discover that over time. |
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Post by quetee on Dec 14, 2021 0:47:53 GMT
Are you saying you don't think a film with a 30% on RT could be one of the 10 best films of the year (in your opinion) and better than films with 98s on Metacritic? I didn't like the leaked DLU script, as I've said before, but I think assessing BP worthiness based on RT scores is a mistake. I think The Beach infinitely better than The Shape of Water, for instance, the latter a film I would have nommed for many razzies... I also liked The Reader and its direction, with some issues in the second half. Not more than Vicky Cristina Barcelona or TDK, but enough for me to understand the BP/BD nominations. I don't care that many reviewers alleged it was terrible; I simply didn't agree. I do think a film with a low/Rotten Tomatometer can be brilliant (examples... Birth and Man On Fire), bit I also don't expect them to contend for things like Best Picture in the year they are released, because those low scores will obviously count them out of contention. Films that come out the gate with low critical scores like that, I expect to find their full audience and appreciation over time if they are great, as those movies have. So there is no contradiction in my stance. If those low scored films are truly great, they will eventually get appreciated. They don't need to compete for Best Picture Oscars. If Don't Look Up is great, let people discover that over time. Tis true because then it becomes about whom you are and not about the movie. We are basically saying McKay can release a crappy movie with stars and still pull off Oscar nods. Where do we draw the line? |
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 14, 2021 1:01:50 GMT
I do think a film with a low/Rotten Tomatometer can be brilliant (examples... Birth and Man On Fire), bit I also don't expect them to contend for things like Best Picture in the year they are released, because those low scores will obviously count them out of contention. Films that come out the gate with low critical scores like that, I expect to find their full audience and appreciation over time if they are great, as those movies have. So there is no contradiction in my stance. If those low scored films are truly great, they will eventually get appreciated. They don't need to compete for Best Picture Oscars. If Don't Look Up is great, let people discover that over time. Tis true because then it becomes about whom you are and not about the movie. We are basically saying McKay can release a crappy movie with stars and still pull off Oscar nods. Where do we draw the line? I mean they already nominated the hell out of him for Vice so... |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 14, 2021 1:12:38 GMT
I would draw the line at not believing RT critics - or thinking that film criticism in 2021 was tied to Oscar nods .......or it was "more relevant" post 2000s because of RT (GTFO) - the whole point of bringing up Dr. Doolittle earlier was that this goes back decades
Movies are almost always based on who is in them and who made them - put Damon in this instead of DiCap and have David Dobkin direct it and get these reviews....... yeah it would miss by a lot......but that........isn't this
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Post by urbanpatrician on Dec 14, 2021 1:32:47 GMT
Wow, okay, well money talks. Haha. I still can't believe critics didn't like Vertigo, back in the day. The usual Hitchcock fans (who were also critics) didn't like Vertigo. But the auteur minded critics liked it. |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 14, 2021 1:38:01 GMT
Just watched the video of Snoop reading the nominees... He seemed to really enjoy saying "The Power of the Dog" |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 14, 2021 1:53:37 GMT
Just watched the video of Snoop reading the nominees... He seemed to really enjoy saying "The Power of the Dog"
I actually wouldn't mind Snoop Dogg hosting the Oscars this year to be honest, and leave the censor button alone.
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 14, 2021 8:01:28 GMT
Jessica needs to sit her thirsty ass down. . I still think she can score a nom though which is all that matters in the end (unless she thinks she can actually win). I mentioned this as a distinct possibility months ago, and it's only become more prevalent since. She needs to chill. |
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