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Post by Allenism on Dec 13, 2021 15:18:55 GMT
Damn, The White Lotus virtually shut out.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 13, 2021 15:22:34 GMT
Surprised Cate Blanchett got snubbed by this bunch when they had two shots to nominate her, and she's a favorite of theirs. She had no chance whatsoever for Don’t Look Up. Nightmare Alley was completely shutout, so they either hated the film or it’s one of the rumored ones that refused to give screeners to the HFPA. Ruth Negga is much better than her in Passing anyway, so whatever the case, I hope it repeats at SAG. Nothing should have any chance for Don't Look Up considering it's shitty critical scores, but here we are. If the HFPA like you enough and you are enough of a star for them, they can find an excuse to toss you a throwaway nod. They could easily have nominated anyone they felt like in the DLU ensemble in Supporting ( Streep, Blanchett, Hill etc), but I suspect even they recognised more than 2 acting nods for that turkey might be overkill. |
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 15:28:38 GMT
She had no chance whatsoever for Don’t Look Up. Nightmare Alley was completely shutout, so they either hated the film or it’s one of the rumored ones that refused to give screeners to the HFPA. Ruth Negga is much better than her in Passing anyway, so whatever the case, I hope it repeats at SAG. Nothing should have any chance for Don't Look Up considering it's shitty critical scores, but here we are. If the HFPA like you enough and you are enough of a star for them, they can find an excuse to toss you a throwaway nod. They could easily have nominated anyone they felt like in the DLU ensemble in Supporting ( Streep, Blanchett, Hill etc), but I suspect even they recognised more than 2 acting nods for that turkey might be overkill. I'm surprised they didn't do it. It must have been close though. IMHO, Maggie's nomination is out of place and is there for other reasons. |
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Post by flasuss on Dec 13, 2021 15:45:26 GMT
Again, I don't see why people are acting like this is in 2015 or anything. The Globes make no difference this year.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Dec 13, 2021 15:56:43 GMT
Wish Faist could have snuck in here. Happy for Kotsur though.
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Post by stephen on Dec 13, 2021 16:02:59 GMT
I'm really glad for Kotsur, but the HFPA are cowards for snubbing Leto.
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Post by hugobolso on Dec 13, 2021 16:04:00 GMT
Surprise not marlee matlin
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 16:08:59 GMT
Wish Faist could have snuck in here. Happy for Kotsur though. I keep hearing he's really good but the critics are not in his corner. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2021 16:09:10 GMT
* The first 3 names read for GG Comedy actors : Garfield, DiCap, Dinklage - are the key to the Oscar BA race - if 2 get in that disrupts the field of 5........like I'm talking disrupts it where Nic Cage could get in  * People need to STFU (in general not in this thread) about Leto and Kathryn Hunter who both missed: I love Hunter but I guarantee you when people see it you may (rightly) complain she took the spot of an actress who did more (I'd nod her but I lack the "guilt" instinct so whatever). The Leto stuff has to stop - I liked him and really liked HoG and I certainly was amused but again if he took up a spot of a "real" actor this year (you know what I mean) you'd eventually feel it kind of bullshitter-y. Don't think the Globes matter much this year ..........there are certain markers that will later - if Cumby wins BAFTA, if Gaga gets nodded at BAFTA (would be enormous)......maybe if SAG nominates Chastain and things like that ......I don't see anything here that's a bellwether for these nods relative to the big show - even if people won here this year tbh ...... |
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 17:03:34 GMT
“This was a joke, a pathetic attempt to gain some credibility,” one award-winning showrunner told Deadline after watching the glitchy livestream Monday from the Beverly Hilton.
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 17:04:29 GMT
The subsequent lack this morning of the usual prepared ads, A-list talent quips, social media congratulations and other marketing bragging about garnering a Globes nom reveals just what a dud this morning was for the HFPA. To paraphrase the advertising campaign for the original Alien, in dead awards space, no one wants to hear you scream. Deadline |
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 17:06:26 GMT
Has anyone thank the Globes for their lovely award yet?  NOPE... and that was not a reference to Peele's new movie. |
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Post by Pavan on Dec 13, 2021 17:19:00 GMT
Nightmare Alley will do better at the Oscars.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 13, 2021 18:22:56 GMT
She had no chance whatsoever for Don’t Look Up. Nightmare Alley was completely shutout, so they either hated the film or it’s one of the rumored ones that refused to give screeners to the HFPA. Ruth Negga is much better than her in Passing anyway, so whatever the case, I hope it repeats at SAG. Nothing should have any chance for Don't Look Up considering it's shitty critical scores, but here we are. If the HFPA like you enough and you are enough of a star for them, they can find an excuse to toss you a throwaway nod. They could easily have nominated anyone they felt like in the DLU ensemble in Supporting ( Streep, Blanchett, Hill etc), but I suspect even they recognised more than 2 acting nods for that turkey might be overkill. But why should nothing have any chance for DLU? What do critics have to do with it? If an award body likes it, it likes it. Just like Being the Ricardos or Joker or whatever the heck, as we've seen numerous times in the past. You keep repeating that DLU's mentions are a joke and all that but it's really nothing new to have a film with stale reviews become an industry hit. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 13, 2021 18:45:13 GMT
Nothing should have any chance for Don't Look Up considering it's shitty critical scores, but here we are. If the HFPA like you enough and you are enough of a star for them, they can find an excuse to toss you a throwaway nod. They could easily have nominated anyone they felt like in the DLU ensemble in Supporting ( Streep, Blanchett, Hill etc), but I suspect even they recognised more than 2 acting nods for that turkey might be overkill. But why should nothing have any chance for DLU? What do critics have to do with it? If an award body likes it, it likes it. Just like Being the Ricardos or Joker or whatever the heck, as we've seen numerous times in the past. You keep repeating that DLU's mentions are a joke and all that but it's really nothing new to have a film with stale reviews become an industry hit. DLU is clearly an Oscar player for Picture and Sceenplay. And I still think DiCaprio is in the convo but way more borderline. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 13, 2021 18:49:14 GMT
Nothing should have any chance for Don't Look Up considering it's shitty critical scores, but here we are. If the HFPA like you enough and you are enough of a star for them, they can find an excuse to toss you a throwaway nod. They could easily have nominated anyone they felt like in the DLU ensemble in Supporting ( Streep, Blanchett, Hill etc), but I suspect even they recognised more than 2 acting nods for that turkey might be overkill. But why should nothing have any chance for DLU? What do critics have to do with it? If an award body likes it, it likes it. Just like Being the Ricardos or Joker or whatever the heck, as we've seen numerous times in the past. You keep repeating that DLU's mentions are a joke and all that but it's really nothing new to have a film with stale reviews become an industry hit. has 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. That is solidly average. I don't bat an eye when a film with a score like that picks up major nods in multiple categories. I'm fine with averagely acclaimed movies with industry appeal getting awards attention. I can even live with something like Vice at a 65% Rotten Tomatoes score. Don't Look Up is at 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. For it to be getting Best Picture mentions with a score that low, to me is a joke. It's a below average score. And I feel it's an insult to so many other films that got a much better critical reception, but are missing out because they haven't got one of the most stacked/awardbaity casts ever assembled. You are right, films with mediocre reviews have gotten awards attention before. But they often have some other mitigating factor to merit it (like huge box office...say Airport or Joker, which still had far better reviews than Don't Look Up). And films like Airport often get mocked for being nominated for awards, despite critics thinking the film sucked. Don't Look Up can't even yet be argued to be a huge hit. I'd probably be less annoyed by it's award run if it at least had that going for it beforehand. If you disagree, that's fair enough. But seeing something like DLU perform the way it has with industry awards in spite of an objectively terrible critical reception just makes the whole system feel rigged to me. |
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Post by JangoB on Dec 13, 2021 18:49:36 GMT
But why should nothing have any chance for DLU? What do critics have to do with it? If an award body likes it, it likes it. Just like Being the Ricardos or Joker or whatever the heck, as we've seen numerous times in the past. You keep repeating that DLU's mentions are a joke and all that but it's really nothing new to have a film with stale reviews become an industry hit. DLU is clearly an Oscar player for Picture and Sceenplay. And I still think DiCaprio is in the convo but way more borderline. Agreed! |
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Post by JangoB on Dec 13, 2021 18:55:33 GMT
But why should nothing have any chance for DLU? What do critics have to do with it? If an award body likes it, it likes it. Just like Being the Ricardos or Joker or whatever the heck, as we've seen numerous times in the past. You keep repeating that DLU's mentions are a joke and all that but it's really nothing new to have a film with stale reviews become an industry hit. has 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. That is solidly average. I don't bat an eye when a film with a score like that picks up major nods in multiple categories. I'm fine with averagely acclaimed movies with industry appeal getting awards attention. Don't Look Up is at 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. For it to be getting Best Picture mentions with a score that low, to me is a joke. It's a below average score. And I feel it's an insult to so many other films that got a much better critical reception, but are missing out because they haven't got one of the most stacked/awardbaity casts ever assembled. You are right, films with mediocre reviews have gotten awards attention before. But they often have some other mitigating factor to merit it (like huge box office...say Airport or Joker, which still had far better reviews than Don't Look Up). And films like Airport often get mocked for bring nominated for awards, despite critics thinking the film sucked. Don't Look Up can't even yet be argued to be a huge hit. I'd probably be less annoyed by it's award run if it at least had that going for it beforehand. If you disagree, that's fair enough. But seeing something like DLU perform the way it has with industry awards in spite of an objectively terrible critical reception just makes the whole system feel rigged to me. I just don't quite understand why this particular movie's predictable awards success elicits that reaction from you. It's just such a typical example of a critic-proof awards contender. It's got prestige, huge stars, beloved director, political relevance and, perhaps most importantly, that air of let's-pat-ourselves-on-the-back smugness that Hollywood loves so much. Maybe that's why I'm seeing nothing surprising in it getting nominations and heading straight for a BP nomination - it seemed destined for it long before the reviews. Kinda like "The Reader"  |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 13, 2021 19:01:43 GMT
Being The Ricardos has 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. That is solidly average. I don't bat an eye when a film with a score like that picks up major nods in multiple categories. I'm fine with averagely acclaimed movies with industry appeal getting awards attention. Don't Look Up is at 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. For it to be getting Best Picture mentions with a score that low, to me is a joke. It's a below average score. And I feel it's an insult to so many other films that got a much better critical reception, but are missing out because they haven't got one of the most stacked/awardbaity casts ever assembled. You are right, films with mediocre reviews have gotten awards attention before. But they often have some other mitigating factor to merit it (like huge box office...say Airport or Joker, which still had far better reviews than Don't Look Up). And films like Airport often get mocked for bring nominated for awards, despite critics thinking the film sucked. Don't Look Up can't even yet be argued to be a huge hit. I'd probably be less annoyed by it's award run if it at least had that going for it beforehand. If you disagree, that's fair enough. But seeing something like DLU perform the way it has with industry awards in spite of an objectively terrible critical reception just makes the whole system feel rigged to me. I just don't quite understand why this particular movie's predictable awards success elicits that reaction from you. It's just such a typical example of a critic-proof awards contender. It's got prestige, huge stars, beloved director, political relevance and, perhaps most importantly, that air of let's-pat-ourselves-on-the-back smugness that Hollywood loves so much. Maybe that's why I'm seeing nothing surprising in it getting nominations and heading straight for a BP nomination - it seemed destined for it long before the reviews. Kinda like "The Reader" Because the score is so bad. I wouldn't even mind if it was just picking up Best Actor nods with that score. Like I said, I've got a certain threshold I can live with for mediocre reviewed films to be picking up Best Picture mentions (probably 60% + on Rotten Tomatoes). But anything below that, I think is just a joke that needs to be called out. I was laughing at Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close when it got Best Pic citations as well. It isn't actually super-common for films with a Rotten score on RT to get Best Picture nodded. |
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Dec 13, 2021 19:09:31 GMT
Wish Faist could have snuck in here. Happy for Kotsur though. I keep hearing he's really good but the critics are not in his corner. It’s a real shame. |
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Post by michael128 on Dec 13, 2021 19:12:54 GMT
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Post by michael128 on Dec 13, 2021 19:14:17 GMT
time to update my signature!!!
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2021 19:15:30 GMT
First of all, I don't understand these White Lotus snubs from these critic groups.
Second of all, if the the Globes were smart, then they would fold and not hold a ceremony especially since nobody got on Instagram and cried fake tears cause they scored their first nod.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 13, 2021 20:06:28 GMT
Has anyone thank the Globes for their lovely award yet? NOPE... and that was not a reference to Peele's new movie. |
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Post by akittystang on Dec 13, 2021 20:43:28 GMT
Sarah Paulson's snub for American Crime Story: Impeachment is just awful.
The White Lotus snubs also are just awful.
This line up for Best Actress (Drama) is probably what we're going to be getting for the Oscars, and honestly, that's fine with me.
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