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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 16, 2021 7:14:30 GMT
Lucille Ball's daughter says she's now seen the full cut of the movie, thinks it's amazing and has high praise for Sorkin, Bardem and Kidman. She says a teaser should be out next week.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 16, 2021 8:10:28 GMT
I think you mean 'Bardeen'.
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Post by quetee on Oct 16, 2021 21:27:24 GMT
I thought J.K Simmons was the standout???
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 16, 2021 21:43:07 GMT
I said it before and I'll say it again, if Kidman misses for this she's never getting nominated again.
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Post by futuretrunks on Oct 16, 2021 22:11:08 GMT
I said it before and I'll say it again, if Kidman misses for this she's never getting nominated again. Nicole Kidman is 54 and in seemingly good health and was last nominated like 4 years ago. Why would missing a nom for a Sorkin movie indicate a future oscar nom drought? I don't think she'll get to 10 noms, but 2-3 more seems more than likely.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 16, 2021 23:09:43 GMT
I said it before and I'll say it again, if Kidman misses for this she's never getting nominated again. Really She was a controversial casting choice for this role and received a lot of pushback for being cast. She was never anything close to a dead cert to be nominated for this part. Getting nominated for this role would almost feel like a bonus, considering so many expected her to fail in the role. Kidman is an extremely respected industry veteran and a major star. If she acts for another 20 to 30 years, she will more than likely get at least 2 to 3 more nominations, if not more.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 17, 2021 10:52:44 GMT
I think you mean 'Bardeen'. .......didn't catch this before
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 17, 2021 11:11:13 GMT
I said it before and I'll say it again, if Kidman misses for this she's never getting nominated again. Nicole Kidman is 54 and in seemingly good health and was last nominated like 4 years ago. Why would missing a nom for a Sorkin movie indicate a future oscar nom drought? I don't think she'll get to 10 noms, but 2-3 more seems more than likely.
Yeah, um, she's definitely not getting to 10 .......... but a couple more are possible particularly in Support imo - and particularly for The Northman next year. As for this movie, we'll see, tough year, I would doubt it - she's too old for the ages covered in this movie, and wrong for the role in a lot of ways - but you never know...........they may admire the effort or she may surprise too..........it's not out of the question this year. I get Tommen_Saperstein 's point though: she just has 2 Oscar nomonations in ~ 20 years. and people talk about her in relation to the Oscars in a way that does not match reality. Some people consider her a GOAT level actress - I like her (and like to make fun of her!), but think that's (way) too much praise .......................but if you do think she's a GOAT, you just have to deal with that she will always lag behind her "rivals" - Winslet and Blanchett in Oscar nods.......and that's fine: I mean a lot of people consider Gene Hackman to be better actor than the 1970s big 4 guys (not me!) and he's 5th in Oscar nominations of that bunch of geezers ............so.......
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 17, 2021 14:23:03 GMT
For the record, I love Kidman. She is one of my favs, but the amount of times she's missed in the past few years and sometimes for pretty baity projects has become really conspicuous. Obviously I'm being hyperbolic and another nom isn't impossible, but I feel like some roles would for shoo-in noms (or at least very strong) for certain actors, and I'd feel that way for this one if it was any other established actress other than Kidman. I mean on paper it has all the ingredients -- except Kidman. And it becomes easier and easier to say that the more times she misses. Is there any other working industry veteran more snubbed than her?
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 17, 2021 14:43:55 GMT
For the record, I love Kidman. She is one of my favs, but the amount of times she's missed in the past few years and sometimes for pretty baity projects has become really conspicuous. Obviously I'm being hyperbolic and another nom isn't impossible, but I feel like some roles would for shoo-in noms (or at least very strong) for certain actors, and I'd feel that way for this one if it was any other established actress other than Kidman. I mean on paper it has all the ingredients -- except Kidman. And it becomes easier and easier to say that the more times she misses. Is there any other working industry veteran more snubbed than her? Tom Hanks.He has actually been in a huge number of baity projects that the Academy liked (ie nominated for Best Picture) and still been repeatedly snubbed of acting nods. Kidman's 'snubs' are mostly quite understandable. She has been in a number of films that sounded "baity" on paper that either didn't work full stop, or had almost zero appeal to the Academy (the opposite of Hanks situation). Birth may be talked up as a masterpiece today but it came out with a 38% Rotten score on Rotten Tomatoes. It was never getting near the Oscars, no matter how praised Kidman's performance was. Margot At The Wedding...again, great reviews for her performance, only 52%on Rotten Tomatoes...not one of Noah Baumbach's best received efforts. Australia was baity on paper, but a bloated critical disappointment in reality . The Paperboy...Great personal reviews and a SAG nod, but again another critical failure ( 45%RT) that the Academy had zero interest in. Destroyer and Boy Erased just had no appeal to Academy voters and she would have been the sole nod for those films if she had gotten in. Kidman almost always faces an uphill battle in terms of getting nominated, because even if her performances revicieve huge praise, her films often end up having zero appeal to the Academy or she ends up much better reviewed than the film she is in. Kidman doesn't really make very many films that play well with Academy voters. When she does (ie Lion), she stands as good a chance of being nodded as anyone else. Her snubs would only be weird to me if she kept appearing in BP nominated films and kept being ignored, but that has never been the case.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 18, 2021 19:48:11 GMT
Jazz Tangcay @jazzt · 1h #BeingtheRicardos teaser trailer is dropping tomorrow
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Post by futuretrunks on Oct 18, 2021 22:56:04 GMT
For the record, I love Kidman. She is one of my favs, but the amount of times she's missed in the past few years and sometimes for pretty baity projects has become really conspicuous. Obviously I'm being hyperbolic and another nom isn't impossible, but I feel like some roles would for shoo-in noms (or at least very strong) for certain actors, and I'd feel that way for this one if it was any other established actress other than Kidman. I mean on paper it has all the ingredients -- except Kidman. And it becomes easier and easier to say that the more times she misses. Is there any other working industry veteran more snubbed than her? Nah, I agree with pupdurcs on this. Kidman missing out for stuff is really no different than Blanchett missing out for Truth, Bernadette, etc. Kidman just does alot of movies that don't have much widespread appeal.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 19, 2021 0:35:46 GMT
For the record, I love Kidman. She is one of my favs, but the amount of times she's missed in the past few years and sometimes for pretty baity projects has become really conspicuous. Obviously I'm being hyperbolic and another nom isn't impossible, but I feel like some roles would for shoo-in noms (or at least very strong) for certain actors, and I'd feel that way for this one if it was any other established actress other than Kidman. I mean on paper it has all the ingredients -- except Kidman. And it becomes easier and easier to say that the more times she misses. Is there any other working industry veteran more snubbed than her? Nah, I agree with pupdurcs on this. Kidman missing out for stuff is really no different than Blanchett missing out for Truth, Bernadette, etc. Kidman just does alot of movies that don't have much widespread appeal. Is it though?.....it's nearly double the career nominations (7 vs. 4) and a 2nd Oscar win for BA difference.......that's a sizeable one I mean I love Blanchett and kinda loved her in Bernadette but you kinda knew she wasn't getting nominated for that (just a sole GG Comedy nod and 50% RT ?) ................and while I do like Kidman - I hated her performance in Destroyer and I was pretty much thinking that she could get nodded there (just a Satellite & GG drama nod with 74% RT but it "seemed" like it "could" happen - look up this boards opinion in 2018 - it was a heavy drama, transformative (I guess, whatever) and that she carried basically every single scene in) ........that seemed way more "possible" for an Oscar nod than Bernadette ever was anyway - no? That was a noticeable miss - at least to some extent - whether I liked the performance or not .........Heck Truth didn't attract any precursors at all anyway iirc (?)
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 19, 2021 2:00:00 GMT
Destroyer was a hard watch. A gritty neo-noir with a female protagonist at it centre (those are real popular...not!). Reviews were good, but not spectacular. Box office was weak. The film's literal only chance of a nomination was Kidman. It had zero appeal to the Academy other than maybe some voters hearing Kidman was very good in it, and that is not enough to make it a priority screener. Kidman did not dominate critics awards (which could have made her a priority watch) or hit enough precursors to even count as a surprising snub. It became pretty clear as the season went on that she would be a long shot for the nod despite the great performance reviews, as the film just had no appeal to voters. Had the film had any chance of an above the line nomination aside from Kidman (say, Original Screenplay), then maybe it'd feel like a bigger snub. But that movie just was not happening with AMPAS at all, in any other category. Lone nods are not easy to get for most actors. Cate Blanchett has only had one lone nod in her 7 nominations ( I'm Not There), same as Kidman . Kate Winslet has never received a lone nod in her 7 nominations. She always gets in with films that have some appeal to AMPAS beyond her performance. Yet Kidman is somehow expected to get multiple lone nods if her films have no potential appeal outside of her performance to the Academy That is not a "noticeable miss". It's just a miss. It's Kidman being in yet another film where she is the only even vague hope of a nod, and it's an uphill battle to get voters to watch it. As respected as Kidman is, she is not Denzel as far as the Academy is concerned. They generally need to like her movie to really go for her. It's no coincidence that 3 of her 4 nominations came in films that were nominated for Best Picture ( Moulin Rouge, The Hours, Lion). Rabbit Hole was her one lone nod, but crucially she hit almost every precursor neccesary and the film was very well recieved critically. There is nothing particularly odd about most of Kidman's misses. If she's in BP nominated film and she has one of the most praised performances or the most praised performance, she almost certainly gets nominated. AMPAS has nothing against her, but like most actors, if they aren't interested in your movie, they won't necessarily go out of their way to watch it and vote for you during a season. She is no Tom Hanks when it comes to Academy snubs.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Oct 19, 2021 2:41:06 GMT
I had no idea this was being made, but this is just criminal to do to my Lucy. One of the worst castings I've heard of in a while. I know you love to take risks, but not all risks are worth taking for you, Nicole.
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Post by morton on Oct 19, 2021 13:21:38 GMT
Meh. It looks okay, but nothing excited me about it.
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Post by wilcinema on Oct 19, 2021 13:32:42 GMT
For some reasons, it reminded me of Trumbo, a very generic biopic. But there's nothing generic about this project on paper. I hope it's just a bad teaser.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Oct 19, 2021 13:41:18 GMT
Pretty underwhelming teaser. I grew up watching I Love Lucy so hoping for this turns out great but I’m a bit skeptical now. Hopefully the full trailer is much better.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 19, 2021 14:07:23 GMT
Eh... haters gonna hate A lot of people seemed to want this project to be a disaster so badly, yet at worst, it looks like a solidly made biopic (and very much the type of thing the Academy might really fall for). It's a more than decent teaser. And Kidman looks like she's going to pull this off ( very nice voice work from her as Lucille!), despite not being the Lucy look-alike everyone wanted her to be.
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Post by JangoB on Oct 19, 2021 14:15:20 GMT
Proper aspect ratio:
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Oct 19, 2021 14:15:41 GMT
Eh... haters gonna hate A lot of people seemed to want this project to be a disaster so badly, yet at worst, it looks like a solidly made biopic (and very much the type of thing the Academy might really fall for). It's a more than decent teaser. And Kidman looks like she's going to pull this off ( very nice voice work from her as Lucille!), despite not being the Lucy look-alike everyone wanted her to be. No one WANTS this movie to be a disaster. Being not sold on it doesn’t mean rooting for it to be bad.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 19, 2021 14:17:01 GMT
Eh... haters gonna hate A lot of people seemed to want this project to be a disaster so badly, yet at worst, it looks like a solidly made biopic (and very much the type of thing the Academy might really fall for). It's a more than decent teaser. And Kidman looks like she's going to pull this off ( very nice voice work from her as Lucille!), despite not being the Lucy look-alike everyone wanted her to be. No one WANTS this movie to be a disaster. Being not sold on it doesn’t mean rooting for it to be bad. I know you are being honest in speaking for yourself (and I'm not doubting your opinion being genuine), but trust me, there are people on this board who WANT this movie to be a flop/disaster and have a rooting interest against it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 19, 2021 14:46:13 GMT
Fuck... after watching the trailer again and watching some old Lucille Ball's interviews/clips again , I really got to reiterate.... Kidman fucking nailed Ball's vocal cadences. She damn well put in the werk
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Post by iheartamyadams on Oct 19, 2021 14:51:24 GMT
It’s a pretty ho-hum trailer, but they were wise to use the 0:53 footage as that’s one of two scenes where she comes closest to nailing her essence as well as getting the physical resemblance down. I think she sounds too much like herself despite obvious effort to deepen her voice, but I can see her being in the award season mix as long as the film isn’t panned
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Post by franklin on Oct 19, 2021 15:16:55 GMT
Do you think Bardem will be officially put in Supporting or Lead?? The trailer seems to sell him as an equal/co-lead to Kidman's character.
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