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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 6, 2022 16:09:35 GMT
can this thread be locked or cleaned up?
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Post by themoviesinner on Apr 6, 2022 16:47:06 GMT
can this thread be locked or cleaned up? Why? It's just a harmless debate between civil and level-headed individuals. On a more serious note, other than the unnecessary name-calling (which is almost always the product of a lack of arguments), I don't find anything wrong with it. It's just people offering their views on a certain topic, just like any other thread on this forum. And as Nietzsche once said: " There are no facts, only interpretations". Once people on here understand this, then discussions will certainly become more constructive.
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Post by hilderic on Apr 6, 2022 23:01:00 GMT
The vast majority of Russians support the invasion. The military killed and raped in the name of the Russian people Speaking of people who definitely approved of the invasion and probably enjoyed the killing and raping, you may be interested to know that Vladimir Zhirinovsky (arguably the most grotesque person in the Russian Duma) has finally dropped dead. If you haven't heard of him, read about his views: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky
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Post by hilderic on Apr 6, 2022 23:56:27 GMT
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Post by mhynson27 on Apr 7, 2022 0:29:57 GMT
can this thread be locked or cleaned up? Why? It's just a harmless debate between civil and level-headed individuals. On a more serious note, other than the unnecessary name-calling (which is almost always the product of a lack of arguments), I don't find anything wrong with it. It's just people offering their views on a certain topic, just like any other thread on this forum. And as Nietzsche once said: " There are no facts, only interpretations". Once people on here understand this, then discussions will certainly become more constructive. It's not so much the name calling, just the wishing death upon people type shit that is de-railing this thread.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 7, 2022 5:38:34 GMT
Funny that you mention past Soviet atrocities. Did you know that the US covered up Soviet atrocities during world war 2 like the extermination of 20k Poles in 1940 and blamed it on the nazis because it wouldn’t be good for the war effort if our allies were committing war crimes of their own? This was before the US even joined the war. I’m sure nothing of the sort is currently happening in Bucha. The Azov battalion did nothing wrong Lmao, typical Russian troll. Everything is America's fault.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 7, 2022 7:25:31 GMT
I saw other Russian girls doing the same. I'm pretty sure they didn't destroy their best Chanel bags (because they surely have more than just one). Those might even have been imitations.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 7, 2022 12:58:17 GMT
Funny that you mention past Soviet atrocities. Did you know that the US covered up Soviet atrocities during world war 2 like the extermination of 20k Poles in 1940 and blamed it on the nazis because it wouldn’t be good for the war effort if our allies were committing war crimes of their own? This was before the US even joined the war. I’m sure nothing of the sort is currently happening in Bucha. The Azov battalion did nothing wrong Lmao, typical Russian troll. Everything is America's fault. Boy you sure got my ass. Had to change my name to reflect it
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 7, 2022 13:28:53 GMT
Lmao, typical Russian troll. Everything is America's fault. Boy you sure got my ass. Had to change my name to reflect it People like you side with Russia and buy Kremlin propaganda because you don't know what it's like to be from a country constantly bullied by a big one.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 7, 2022 14:13:19 GMT
Boy you sure got my ass. Had to change my name to reflect it People like you side with Russia and buy Kremlin propaganda because you don't know what it's like to be from a country constantly bullied by a big one. I’m not on anyone’s side but go off
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Post by thomasjerome on Apr 7, 2022 14:35:03 GMT
Boy you sure got my ass. Had to change my name to reflect it People like you side with Russia and buy Kremlin propaganda because you don't know what it's like to be from a country constantly bullied by a big one. Your hate for Chinese (and Russians, as Russia is their ally?) is purely driven by your nationalism which leads you to have all these scary, disturbingly racist thoughts. It's sad what's going on in Taiwan, I understand the pain and anger caused by Chinese regime but guess what, one billion of Chinese people or 145 million of Russian population are not all responsible for that. That's insane to think about. You can find a poll where 100% of the respondents supported some war, that won't change a goddamn thing. These two countries - China and Russia are incredibly authoritarian, there had almost never been a democracy in their past, just like many other countries haven't. The propaganda is very systematic and widespread there. It's hard to imagine what it is like when you don't live in that kind of state. All we can do is support all sorts of their democratic movements and opposition as strong as we can. Even they might be problematic in some ways right now as they're formed during the rule of this system but when there'll be a platform for freedom of speech and freedom of thought, then everything will change through the time. I can't even believe I have to explain common sense. No one is born evil, no one is born warmonger. So your constant calls for Russian genocide only makes you look like a caricature villain from some awful action movie. And trust me, I know how it's like to be "bullied" by a bigger state (Russia included) but unlike you, I never think we should "erase" their population or "they have no place" in this world. Simply because, you know, that's something a Nazi would say. And if your idea of responding to violence is committing a much stronger, much bigger violent attack, I don't know how it makes you less "barbarian".
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 7, 2022 14:55:29 GMT
you don't know what it's like to be from a country constantly bullied by a big one. Sorry for your experience. This happened in my university, Politecnico di Milano (well, I graduated about 30 years ago). There's an internal investigation and a parliament question about it btw.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 8, 2022 5:40:58 GMT
Your hate for Chinese (and Russians, as Russia is their ally?) is purely driven by your nationalism which leads you to have all these scary, disturbingly racist thoughts. It's sad what's going on in Taiwan, I understand the pain and anger caused by Chinese regime but guess what, one billion of Chinese people or 145 million of Russian population are not all responsible for that. That's insane to think about. You can find a poll where 100% of the respondents supported some war, that won't change a goddamn thing. These two countries - China and Russia are incredibly authoritarian, there had almost never been a democracy in their past, just like many other countries haven't. The propaganda is very systematic and widespread there. It's hard to imagine what it is like when you don't live in that kind of state. All we can do is support all sorts of their democratic movements and opposition as strong as we can. Even they might be problematic in some ways right now as they're formed during the rule of this system but when there'll be a platform for freedom of speech and freedom of thought, then everything will change through the time. I can't even believe I have to explain common sense. No one is born evil, no one is born warmonger. So your constant calls for Russian genocide only makes you look like a caricature villain from some awful action movie. And trust me, I know how it's like to be "bullied" by a bigger state (Russia included) but unlike you, I never think we should "erase" their population or "they have no place" in this world. Simply because, you know, that's something a Nazi would say. And if your idea of responding to violence is committing a much stronger, much bigger violent attack, I don't know how it makes you less "barbarian". China and Russia being authoritarian and their propaganda are not valid excuses. Others shouldn't be paying for Chinese and Russians' lack of critical thinking. And if you believe everything will change through time you are deluded. You obviously have never interacted with many Chinese people in Chinese. Nothing will change.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 8, 2022 6:42:23 GMT
stabcaesarThe most scaring thing about the video I posted above is the Chinese professor saying multiple times there'll be "dramatic changes in Taiwan in the near future".
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Post by themoviesinner on Apr 8, 2022 8:49:42 GMT
China and Russia being authoritarian and their propaganda are not valid excuses. Others shouldn't be paying for Chinese and Russians' lack of critical thinking. And if you believe everything will change through time you are deluded. You obviously have never interacted with many Chinese people in Chinese. Nothing will change. You say Chinese and Russians lack critical thinking, but it seems to me that you lack critical thinking as well. China and Russia are just doing what every imperialistic country has been doing since the dawn of civilization. And I agree that is not going to change UNLESS people like you and me, the "peasants", all unite and take action. If you think that you have more in common with a Taiwanese millionaire than with a Chinese or Russian in the same economic circumstance as yourself, then you are deluded. All these nationalistic or racial differences are devised just to bring tensions and strife among the common folk and to diverge their attention from the truly bloodiest war that is going on right now, the ECONOMIC one, which is a global war. Billionaires all around the globe are laughing their asses off right now as they become richer by the day, while we are here sending threats to each other, trying to get by with the breadcrumbs they are throwing us.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 8, 2022 9:02:13 GMT
moviesinner speaks truth. Yes, I'll take being a billionaire in Ukraine over being on the economic cutoff line in America. I'm not exactly worried about money as I'm not actually on the cutoff line, but unlike billionaires (anywhere) I have to count my account to make sure I can afford certain things. A billionaire aint gotta.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 9, 2022 16:05:42 GMT
\And I agree that is not going to change UNLESS people like you and me, the "peasants", all unite and take action. If you think that you have more in common with a Taiwanese millionaire than with a Chinese or Russian in the same economic circumstance as yourself, then you are deluded. All these nationalistic or racial differences are devised just to bring tensions and strife among the common folk and to diverge their attention from the truly bloodiest war that is going on right now, the ECONOMIC one, which is a global war. Billionaires all around the globe are laughing their asses off right now as they become richer by the day, while we are here sending threats to each other, trying to get by with the breadcrumbs they are throwing us. K Lenin, lol.
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Post by themoviesinner on Apr 9, 2022 18:15:50 GMT
I love reading responses like this. It proves that the interlocutor has no counterargument to present and resorts to these seemingly witty remarks because their ego doesn't allow them to admit that they don't have any counterarguments, while also wanting to have the last word. Well, mate, the last word is yours. Congratulations! Have a nice day!
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 16, 2022 12:10:09 GMT
This has nothing to do with anything, I just find this image of Putin flicking us all off to be funny.
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Post by cherry68 on May 28, 2022 6:32:57 GMT
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Post by hilderic on Jun 11, 2022 1:47:55 GMT
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Sept 21, 2022 7:14:38 GMT
Partial military mobilization.The comments are vague, but Putin is pushing military forces into wartime footing, and making veiled threats of nuclear retaliation.
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 21, 2022 16:52:09 GMT
Do a full mobilization, you coward
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 21, 2022 17:10:56 GMT
Do a full mobilization, you coward Full mobilization is about 25 millions soldiers.
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Post by dazed on Sept 21, 2022 17:41:28 GMT
slava ukraini 🇺🇦✊🏻
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