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Post by cherry68 on Apr 5, 2022 14:21:06 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2022 15:57:25 GMT
If you buy the item, it is yours. Chanel can fuck right off with requiring agreements not to wear their products in Russia. I don't see how that is possibly enforceable anyway. If you have bought an item, it is yours to do with as you wish. If they won't sell to you, that's their business. But telling a customer what they can or cannot do after they have purchased an item is none of the provider's damn business. The provider relinquishes all rights to their product once the purchase has been made.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 5, 2022 16:07:21 GMT
If you buy the item, it is yours. Chanel can fuck right off with requiring agreements not to wear their products in Russia. I don't see how that is possibly enforceable anyway. If you have bought an item, it is yours to do with as you wish. If they won't sell to you, that's their business. But telling a customer what they can or cannot do after they have purchased an item is none of the provider's damn business. The provider relinquishes all rights to their product once the purchase has been made. Chanel and the other fashion labels want to sell their items, but it's a matter of new rules to sanction Russia, as the article explains. It's because they can't export their goods to Russia, directly or (in this case) indirectly.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 5, 2022 16:16:50 GMT
stabcaesar what the hell dude. Russian towns and villages don't deserve what the Kremlin and Russian military have done to Ukraine. No one does. The vast majority of Russians support the invasion. The military killed and raped in the name of the Russian people. Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. Putin's Russia is the same. The vast majority of Russians are misinformed by state-controlled media and have no idea what's going on in Ukraine. The Kremlin has an iron grip on information and are punishing anyone who goes against their narrative. The polls showing support among Russians for the invasion are unsubstantial for so many reasons--because they are *state-sponsored* polls (conflict of interest), because they used the Krelmin's line that it was a "special military operation to de-Nazify Ukraine" and not an invasion, because Russians are almost certainly unaware of the costs of this war both in lives lost and how their economy is about to implode, because ordinary Russians are probably even more wary about speaking honestly with a stranger on the phone in an authoritarian state where dissenters are being jailed. Ignorance and/or fear are not justifications for genocide. Until we have information that the majority of Russians *know* the extent of what's going on in Ukraine AND what Putin has done to their economy and still support what he's doing, then maybe you have a leg to stand on. Until then stop this reactionary racist bullshit about killing Russians.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 5, 2022 16:38:42 GMT
The vast majority of Russians support the invasion. The military killed and raped in the name of the Russian people. Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. Putin's Russia is the same. The vast majority of Russians are misinformed by state-controlled media and have no idea what's going on in Ukraine. The Kremlin has an iron grip on information and are punishing anyone who goes against their narrative. The polls showing support among Russians for the invasion are unsubstantial for so many reasons--because they are *state-sponsored* polls (conflict of interest), because they used the Krelmin's line that it was a "special military operation to de-Nazify Ukraine" and not an invasion, because Russians are almost certainly unaware of the costs of this war both in lives lost and how their economy is about to implode, because ordinary Russians are probably even more wary about speaking honestly with a stranger on the phone in an authoritarian state where dissenters are being jailed. Ignorance and/or fear are not justifications for genocide. Until we have information that the majority of Russians *know* the extent of what's going on in Ukraine AND what Putin has done to their economy and still support what he's doing, then maybe you have a leg to stand on. Until then stop this reactionary racist bullshit about killing Russians. So Germans weren't responsible for Nazi Germany's crimes? The polls showing support amongst Russians for the invasion are independent polls, not state-sponsored. They are valid. kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/poll-83-of-russians-support-putin/
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 5, 2022 16:59:15 GMT
stabcaesar what the hell dude. Russian towns and villages don't deserve what the Kremlin and Russian military have done to Ukraine. No one does. The vast majority of Russians support the invasion. The military killed and raped in the name of the Russian people. Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. Putin's Russia is the same. The vast majority of Muslims support jihad. Radical islamists blow themselves up and rape young, sometimes underage white women in the name of allah Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. All Muslims are the same you see how bad that sounds?
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 5, 2022 17:02:26 GMT
The vast majority of Russians are misinformed by state-controlled media and have no idea what's going on in Ukraine. The Kremlin has an iron grip on information and are punishing anyone who goes against their narrative. The polls showing support among Russians for the invasion are unsubstantial for so many reasons--because they are *state-sponsored* polls (conflict of interest), because they used the Krelmin's line that it was a "special military operation to de-Nazify Ukraine" and not an invasion, because Russians are almost certainly unaware of the costs of this war both in lives lost and how their economy is about to implode, because ordinary Russians are probably even more wary about speaking honestly with a stranger on the phone in an authoritarian state where dissenters are being jailed. Ignorance and/or fear are not justifications for genocide. Until we have information that the majority of Russians *know* the extent of what's going on in Ukraine AND what Putin has done to their economy and still support what he's doing, then maybe you have a leg to stand on. Until then stop this reactionary racist bullshit about killing Russians. So Germans weren't responsible for Nazi Germany's crimes? The polls showing support amongst Russians for the invasion are independent polls, not state-sponsored. They are valid. kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/poll-83-of-russians-support-putin/>kyivindependent did you ever stop to consider the fact that maybe these numbers were seasoned to make the average Russian seem like a barbarian and draw up support for war in the west which is perfectly in line with what zelensky has been doing for the past month? That’s the thing about data collection and analysis. The numbers are what they are but you can make them say whatever you want them to say
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2022 18:12:46 GMT
If you buy the item, it is yours. Chanel can fuck right off with requiring agreements not to wear their products in Russia. I don't see how that is possibly enforceable anyway. If you have bought an item, it is yours to do with as you wish. If they won't sell to you, that's their business. But telling a customer what they can or cannot do after they have purchased an item is none of the provider's damn business. The provider relinquishes all rights to their product once the purchase has been made. Chanel and the other fashion labels want to sell their items, but it's a matter of new rules to sanction Russia, as the article explains. It's because they can't export their goods to Russia, directly or (in this case) indirectly. Then don't sell to them at all. Done. Don't write up a nonsense "agreement" that breaks the rules of the sanction anyway. If it is seriously hurting your company, get out of the E.U.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 5, 2022 18:53:30 GMT
Chanel and the other fashion labels want to sell their items, but it's a matter of new rules to sanction Russia, as the article explains. It's because they can't export their goods to Russia, directly or (in this case) indirectly. Then don't sell to them at all. Done. Don't write up a nonsense "agreement" that breaks the rules of the sanction anyway. If it is seriously hurting your company, get out of the E.U. Lots of Russians live in the UE countries and Switzerland. They can buy what they want, unless they go to Russia with those items. Thus Chanel asks to sign a declaration the customer won't bring their goods to Russia.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2022 19:03:52 GMT
Then don't sell to them at all. Done. Don't write up a nonsense "agreement" that breaks the rules of the sanction anyway. If it is seriously hurting your company, get out of the E.U. Lots of Russians live in the UE countries and Switzerland. They can buy what they want, unless they go to Russia with those items. Thus Chanel asks to sign a declaration the customer won't bring their goods to Russia. Which is where I call bullshit. You buy something, it is yours. You can't stop me from using what I own. I can buy something and go onto my property and film myself burning it. I bought it, it is *mine.* The company no longer has any say in their product once I have bought it.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 5, 2022 19:08:27 GMT
Lots of Russians live in the UE countries and Switzerland. They can buy what they want, unless they go to Russia with those items. Thus Chanel asks to sign a declaration the customer won't bring their goods to Russia. Which is where I call bullshit. You buy something, it is yours. You can't stop me from using what I own. I can buy something and go onto my property and film myself burning it. I bought it, it is *mine.* The company no longer has any say in their product once I have bought it. The company doesn't care, but the government can accuse them to violate the sanctions if the items they sold are exported to Russia. The girl buying the bag might be a reseller for instance.
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 5, 2022 19:23:57 GMT
Which is where I call bullshit. You buy something, it is yours. You can't stop me from using what I own. I can buy something and go onto my property and film myself burning it. I bought it, it is *mine.* The company no longer has any say in their product once I have bought it. The company doesn't care, but the government can accuse them to violate the sanctions if the items they sold are exported to Russia. The girl buying the bag might be a reseller for instance. The government has no business getting into the original seller for someone else's crimes, but I guess that's just me hating on overreaching governments screwing people over.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 6, 2022 2:52:38 GMT
The vast majority of Muslims support jihad. Radical islamists blow themselves up and rape young, sometimes underage white women in the name of allah Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. All Muslims are the same you see how bad that sounds? Your analogy is terrible. The vast majority of Muslims do not support jihad. The vast majority of Russians however do support Putin. His support increased to 83% according to a Russian independent pollster. German collective guilt is the basis of German reckoning. Russians need to do the same - not just for this godless invasion, but for all the crimes committed as Soviet Union to Central and Eastern European countries: Holodomor, illegal occupation of Baltic States, forced migration of the Baltics, the Tatars and others, and general oppression of countries under the Iron Curtain. You name it. Few regimes have been as despicable and repugnant as the USSR. >kyivindependent did you ever stop to consider the fact that maybe these numbers were seasoned to make the average Russian seem like a barbarian and draw up support for war in the west which is perfectly in line with what zelensky has been doing for the past month? That’s the thing about data collection and analysis. The numbers are what they are but you can make them say whatever you want them to say I posted that site because it was the one non-paywalled source. It's been reported everywhere. The pollster is Russian. www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/putin-approval-rating-russia.htmlAverage Russians are barbarians. They should have no place on earth. Chinese are the same.
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 6:45:49 GMT
Unsuprisingly MSM is remaining silent about attrocities commited by Azov neo-nazis, from shooting Russian PoWs in kneecaps, tying random civilians to a pole and beating them mercilessly to harrassing Roma population. These depraved beasts are literally documenting their war crimes and posting them on their Telegram accounts for the entire world to see.
It was certainly enlightening to listen interviews of Mariupol residents who are overjoyed that Russian armed forces have liberated them from Azov's reign of terror.
There is also significant amount of evidence that Azov neo-nazis&other Ukranian paramilitary groups are behind massacre in Bucha. Here is the chronology of events : 1.)31 MAR: Russian troops leave Bucha 2.)1 APR: Mayor of Bucha triumphantly declares in front of the camera there are no Russian troops in town while standing in front of the city hall, says how 31 MAR is a special day for the city of Bucha. 3.)2 APR Ukranian media writes how "Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region" and how the city was "being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces". 4.)3 APR Videos suddenly emerge of “massacre” done by "Russia" where civilians wear white armbands (pro-Russian identification mark). Not suspicious at all... The Ukranian version of the story is full of inconsistencies and the timeline simply doesn't add up, but the MSM is taking everything Zelenskyy says at face value and has already decided to assign blame to Russia with no independent verification whatsoever.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 6, 2022 7:32:20 GMT
Unsuprisingly MSM is remaining silent about attrocities commited by Azov neo-nazis, from shooting Russian PoWs in kneecaps, tying random civilians to a pole and beating them mercilessly to harrassing Roma population. These depraved beasts are literally documenting their war crimes and posting them on their Telegram accounts for the entire world to see. It was certainly enlightening to listen interviews of Mariupol residents who are overjoyed that Russian armed forces have liberated them from Azov's reign of terror. There is also significant amount of evidence that Azov neo-nazis&other Ukranian paramilitary groups are behind massacre in Bucha. Here is the chronology of events : 1.)31 MAR: Russian troops leave Bucha 2.)1 APR: Mayor of Bucha triumphantly declares in front of the camera there are no Russian troops in town while standing in front of the city hall, says how 31 MAR is a special day for the city of Bucha. 3.)2 APR Ukranian media writes how "Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region" and how the city was "being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces". 4.)3 APR Videos suddenly emerge of “massacre” done by "Russia" where civilians wear white armbands (pro-Russian identification mark). Not suspicious at all... The Ukranian version of the story is full of inconsistencies and the timeline simply doesn't add up, but the MSM is taking everything Zelenskyy says at face value and has already decided to assign blame to Russia with no independent verification whatsoever. No one has any interest in Kremlin propaganda. Get fucked.
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 7:52:37 GMT
Unsuprisingly MSM is remaining silent about attrocities commited by Azov neo-nazis, from shooting Russian PoWs in kneecaps, tying random civilians to a pole and beating them mercilessly to harrassing Roma population. These depraved beasts are literally documenting their war crimes and posting them on their Telegram accounts for the entire world to see. It was certainly enlightening to listen interviews of Mariupol residents who are overjoyed that Russian armed forces have liberated them from Azov's reign of terror. There is also significant amount of evidence that Azov neo-nazis&other Ukranian paramilitary groups are behind massacre in Bucha. Here is the chronology of events : 1.)31 MAR: Russian troops leave Bucha 2.)1 APR: Mayor of Bucha triumphantly declares in front of the camera there are no Russian troops in town while standing in front of the city hall, says how 31 MAR is a special day for the city of Bucha. 3.)2 APR Ukranian media writes how "Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region" and how the city was "being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces". 4.)3 APR Videos suddenly emerge of “massacre” done by "Russia" where civilians wear white armbands (pro-Russian identification mark). Not suspicious at all... The Ukranian version of the story is full of inconsistencies and the timeline simply doesn't add up, but the MSM is taking everything Zelenskyy says at face value and has already decided to assign blame to Russia with no independent verification whatsoever. No one has any interest in Kremlin propaganda. Get fucked. Are you going to have another one of your facsist outbursts, Adolf ?
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 6, 2022 7:55:44 GMT
No one has any interest in Kremlin propaganda. Get fucked. Are you going to have another one of your facsist outbursts, Adolf ? Is that the best you can do?
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 8:10:49 GMT
Are you going to have another one of your facsist outbursts, Adolf ? Is that the best you can do? Do what ? Call spade a spade ? Did I break your delicate feelings, Adolf ?
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 6, 2022 8:18:14 GMT
Is that the best you can do? Do what ? Call spade a spade ? Did I break your delicate feelings, Adolf ? I am really bored with you. Hope you get drafted to die in Ukraine.
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 8:26:07 GMT
Do what ? Call spade a spade ? Did I break your delicate feelings, Adolf ? I am really bored with you. Hope you get drafted to die in Ukraine. And I hope you'll manage to cure yourself of your facsist tendencies. Perhaps you need to undergo a de-nazification process.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 6, 2022 8:57:19 GMT
I am really bored with you. Hope you get drafted to die in Ukraine. And I hope you'll manage to cure yourself of your facsist tendencies. Perhaps you need to undergo a de-nazification process. The fact that you actually buy Russian propaganda on Bucha shows you are not worth responding at all. I am putting you on ignore. You are a pathetic lowlife. I wish you violent death.
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 9:26:02 GMT
The vast majority of Muslims support jihad. Radical islamists blow themselves up and rape young, sometimes underage white women in the name of allah Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. All Muslims are the same you see how bad that sounds? Your analogy is terrible. The vast majority of Muslims do not support jihad. The vast majority of Russians however do support Putin. His support increased to 83% according to a Russian independent pollster. German collective guilt is the basis of German reckoning. Russians need to do the same - not just for this godless invasion, but for all the crimes committed as Soviet Union to Central and Eastern European countries: Holodomor, illegal occupation of Baltic States, forced migration of the Baltics, the Tatars and others, and general oppression of countries under the Iron Curtain. You name it. Few regimes have been as despicable and repugnant as the USSR. >kyivindependent did you ever stop to consider the fact that maybe these numbers were seasoned to make the average Russian seem like a barbarian and draw up support for war in the west which is perfectly in line with what zelensky has been doing for the past month? That’s the thing about data collection and analysis. The numbers are what they are but you can make them say whatever you want them to say I posted that site because it was the one non-paywalled source. It's been reported everywhere. The pollster is Russian. www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/putin-approval-rating-russia.htmlAverage Russians are barbarians. They should have no place on earth. Chinese are the same. You are aware that George Bush Jr. enjoyed similar approval rate at the height of Iraq invasion ? Do you believe that Americans "should have no place on earth" as well ? The major difference is however that the U.S. went to war out of sheer greed and desire to preserve its economic hegemony. Iraq wasn't invaded because of "Saddam's WMDs" that was a story for domestic audiences. Iraq was invaded when Saddam decided to price Iraq's oil in € instead of $. Gaddafi was similarly murdered when he suggested establishment of a pan-African currency - Gold Dinar - which was supposed to be independent of American dollar. Afghanistan wasn't invaded because of 9/11 if Americans cared about that they would have invaded Saudi Arabia. Afghanistan was invaded becauses U.S. wanted to exploit their mineral resources etc. Russia, on the other hand, went to war because its security concerns have been ignored by Western powers for decades. Should Americans do the same for all the invasions& bombings & coup d'etats they've done since WW2 ? Should Brits do the same for their sadistic treatment of India ? Should French do the same for the colonial crimes in Algeria ? Should Belgians do the same for their colonial crimes in Congo ? Should Dutch do the same for the attrocities they commited in Indonesia ?
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Post by brancaleone on Apr 6, 2022 9:38:56 GMT
And I hope you'll manage to cure yourself of your facsist tendencies. Perhaps you need to undergo a de-nazification process. The fact that you actually buy Russian propaganda on Bucha shows you are not worth responding at all. I am putting you on ignore. You are a pathetic lowlife. I wish you violent death. If you are already so incredibly fragile that you can't handle someone challenging your point of view, then place me on ignore by all means. I wish you a successful de-nazification process ! You definitely need it.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 6, 2022 12:29:26 GMT
Do what ? Call spade a spade ? Did I break your delicate feelings, Adolf ? I am really bored with you. Hope you get drafted to die in Ukraine. Why don’t you go off and volunteer in the foreign legion if you’re so eager to kill Russians? Go, I’ll pay for your ticket. Just don’t post on here or on Reddit when you get there and give away your location like so many other dumbass redditors have already done
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 6, 2022 12:35:33 GMT
The vast majority of Muslims support jihad. Radical islamists blow themselves up and rape young, sometimes underage white women in the name of allah Nazi Germany was not just Hitler and German military either, it was all Germans. All Muslims are the same you see how bad that sounds? Your analogy is terrible. The vast majority of Muslims do not support jihad. The vast majority of Russians however do support Putin. His support increased to 83% according to a Russian independent pollster. German collective guilt is the basis of German reckoning. Russians need to do the same - not just for this godless invasion, but for all the crimes committed as Soviet Union to Central and Eastern European countries: Holodomor, illegal occupation of Baltic States, forced migration of the Baltics, the Tatars and others, and general oppression of countries under the Iron Curtain. You name it. Few regimes have been as despicable and repugnant as the USSR. >kyivindependent did you ever stop to consider the fact that maybe these numbers were seasoned to make the average Russian seem like a barbarian and draw up support for war in the west which is perfectly in line with what zelensky has been doing for the past month? That’s the thing about data collection and analysis. The numbers are what they are but you can make them say whatever you want them to say I posted that site because it was the one non-paywalled source. It's been reported everywhere. The pollster is Russian. www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/putin-approval-rating-russia.htmlAverage Russians are barbarians. They should have no place on earth. Chinese are the same. Funny that you mention past Soviet atrocities. Did you know that the US covered up Soviet atrocities during world war 2 like the extermination of 20k Poles in 1940 and blamed it on the nazis because it wouldn’t be good for the war effort if our allies were committing war crimes of their own? This was before the US even joined the war. I’m sure nothing of the sort is currently happening in Bucha. The Azov battalion did nothing wrong
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