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Post by sirjeremy on Dec 23, 2020 12:57:43 GMT
Another oddity is Shirley MacLaine's popularity with BAFTA (nine nominations) compared to her recognition on her home turf with AMPAS (five nominations).
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 23, 2020 13:27:01 GMT
Another oddity is Shirley MacLaine's popularity with BAFTA (nine nominations) compared to her recognition on her home turf with AMPAS (five nominations). Great mention and she's very hard to find the reverse of her too (ie a British actress more who loved by the Academy than by BAFTA?)......... She's also insanely popular with the Golden Globes - 19 unique nominations iirc
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 24, 2020 17:12:01 GMT
Another oddity is Shirley MacLaine's popularity with BAFTA (nine nominations) compared to her recognition on her home turf with AMPAS (five nominations). Great mention and she's very hard to find the reverse of her too (ie a British actress more who loved by the Academy than by BAFTA?)......... She's also insanely popular with the Golden Globes - 19 unique nominations iirc A smaller example of this same thing for males is Jake Gyllenhaal nodded just once by the Academy and 3 nods and a win at BAFTA already .......
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 24, 2020 18:17:39 GMT
I also always found it strange that Jeremy Irons has never been nominated since his only nomination in 1982 for "French Lieutenant's Wife". How the hell! This seems impossible and yet it's true?~! Irons having less BAFTA noms than Eddie Redmayne needs to be corrected.
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 24, 2020 19:31:45 GMT
Another considerable split between BAFTA/the Academy. Ennio Morricone won every time he was nominated at BAFTA (A total of SIX), yet just barely got a win from the Oscars with his last nomination.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 25, 2020 22:36:54 GMT
Another big one Ken Loach - Has 10 BAFTA film nods across Picture, Screenplay and Director and a win........but 0 Oscar nods  Not as pronounced as Loach but may beat him .... Lynne Ramsay - 7 time nominee and 1 time BAFTA winner across many categories (including shorts).......0 on the overall Oscar nods atm. 
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 5, 2021 12:37:08 GMT
Kind of a shocking one - Hitchcock - 0 for 5 for directing Oscars.......never nominated for a directing BAFTA (which missed his peak era and started awarding in the late 60s) and just 1 Golden Globe Directing nomination in movies at all (a loss, Frenzy).........along with one of his fave actors - fellow Brit - Cary Grant (0 for 2 Oscar nominations, 0 for 1 BAFTA nominations, 0 for 5 Golden Globe nominations). 
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 5, 2021 15:06:23 GMT
Kind of a shocking one - Hitchcock - 0 for 5 for directing Oscars.......never nominated for a directing BAFTA (which missed his peak era and started awarding in the late 60s) and just 1 Golden Globe Directing nomination in movies at all (a loss, Frenzy).........along with one of his fave actors - fellow Brit - Cary Grant (0 for 2 Oscar nominations, 0 for 1 BAFTA nominations, 0 for 5 Golden Globe nominations).  Hitchcock's Oscar history is well known but reading your post I feel I should point out Grant's awards record! Zero wins in the 8 nods you mentioned and no other nominations for any major award! I really believe Cary was a very underrated actor awards-wise back then. He was considered one og the biggest movie stars of his time, yet most thought he wasn't awards worthy... A shame because his screen presence and his talent were undeniable in many different genres (screwball comedy, drama, action films, rom coms)... Definitely one of my all time favs!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 15, 2021 19:42:15 GMT
Slightly surprising but Gene Hackman - 5 Oscar nods, 2 wins, 3 Golden Globe wins off 8 nods, and 2 BAFTA wins for 5 BAFTA nods (for 7 films which is a whole lot).......never was nominated for an individual SAG. Which is weird but understandable since SAG came later but he's the only one of the "big 5" (or 6 if you count Duvall) of the 70s that applies too...he did get 2 cast nods...... 
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 21, 2021 5:45:04 GMT
Zhang Ziyi is like a reverse Denzel. Three BAFTA nods in films that went on to be nominated for a ton of Oscars, but no Oscar noms for her acting. One of their worst oversights.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 21, 2021 6:15:57 GMT
Zhang Ziyi is like a reverse Denzel. Three BAFTA nods in films that went on to be nominated for a ton of Oscars, but no Oscar noms for her acting. One of their worst oversights. BAFTA is a lot friendlier to Asians than the Oscars. Regina King has a gazillion Emmys and only one SAG ensemble nomination.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 21, 2021 21:44:56 GMT
It might be very obvious but Donald Sutherland has nominations for Golden Globes, BAFTA, Emmy but no Oscar nominations.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 21, 2021 22:07:25 GMT
It might be very obvious but Donald Sutherland has nominations for Golden Globes, BAFTA, Emmy but no Oscar nominations. He's also oddly missing a SAG nomination (?) and iirc doesn't have one in any way (like Hackman's ensemble nominations at least)
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 26, 2021 22:15:04 GMT
Good one - and got her first Oscar nod at 69 I think. Fascinating career she has ..... Her first Emmy nomination at 67, her first Golden Globe nomination at 71... She also won Best Actress prizes from the Berlin and Venice Film Festivals within a two year period (2015-17) and as an older actress. Looking her up again. Can't believe she's never been nominated for a SAG or GG or BAFTA for any movie. And only one Oscar nom in 2016... I mean, not a single thing, Oscar or w/e, for Stardust Memories or The Verdict -- those wouldn't have been surprising, undeserving noms. Four Cesar noms is the only thing that makes sense. But then it's: no wins?? lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 3:45:30 GMT
Her first Emmy nomination at 67, her first Golden Globe nomination at 71... She also won Best Actress prizes from the Berlin and Venice Film Festivals within a two year period (2015-17) and as an older actress. Looking her up again. Can't believe she's never been nominated for a SAG or GG or BAFTA for any movie. And only one Oscar nom in 2016... I mean, not a single thing, Oscar or w/e, for Stardust Memories or The Verdict -- those wouldn't have been surprising, undeserving noms. Four Cesar noms is the only thing that makes sense. But then it's: no wins?? lol. It's so rude that she's never won at Cannes. There's no way that she's winning the Best Actress prize for it with Spike Lee heading the jury (lol), but hoping Verhoeven's Benedetta is a juicy supporting role for her à la Virna Lisi in Queen Margot. Let me know if you'd like recs for her - she's my all time favorite actress. (Well... tied with Romy Schneider and Catherine Deneuve.)
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 28, 2021 4:07:34 GMT
Looking her up again. Can't believe she's never been nominated for a SAG or GG or BAFTA for any movie. And only one Oscar nom in 2016... I mean, not a single thing, Oscar or w/e, for Stardust Memories or The Verdict -- those wouldn't have been surprising, undeserving noms. Four Cesar noms is the only thing that makes sense. But then it's: no wins?? lol. It's so rude that she's never won at Cannes. There's no way that she's winning the Best Actress prize for it with Spike Lee heading the jury (lol), but hoping Verhoeven's Benedetta is a juicy supporting role for her à la Virna Lisi in Queen Margot. Let me know if you'd like recs for her - she's my all time favorite actress. (Well... tied with Romy Schneider and Catherine Deneuve.) My next Ramplings will hopefully be Cherry Orchard w/ Alan Bates, and The Purple Taxi w/ Noiret, Ustinov, Astaire (wow). Also looking at - and I'm curious if you've seen or like her in any of these? - The Statement and neo noirs I'll Sleep When I'm Dead, Paris by Night, I Anna......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 4:21:26 GMT
Mattsby - I've seen all of these films except for The Statement and I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. The Cherry Orchard is a beautiful film and is my favorite of the bunch - it's very deliberate and "still," but well worth watching. With no theatre background, Rampling isn't an obvious choice for the part, but she's excellent in it. Don't forget that in addition to the three legends, Edward Albert is also in Purple Taxi! He plays Rampling's brother. A photo from the set: I, Anna is definitely worth watching for Rampling's performance, and it was directed by her son! I don't remember too much about Paris By Night, but she and Iain Glen certainly make for a sexy, eye-catching pair.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 28, 2021 8:18:01 GMT
Jane Alexander is another BAFTA shut out person - 4 Oscar nods (no wins), 3 Golden Globe film nods (no wins), 0 BAFTA nods.......but a beast on stage (EIGHT Tony nods  , 1 win) and TV (7 Emmy nods and 2 wins) .......but then Globes then didn't nod her for all 7 of those TV roles  
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 17:19:37 GMT
Another oddity is Shirley MacLaine's popularity with BAFTA (nine nominations) compared to her recognition on her home turf with AMPAS (five nominations). She has such a weird relationship with AMPAS... They passed her over just as often as they nominated her. 15 (!!!) Golden Globe nominations (for film), two Silver Berlin Bears, two Volpi Cups...
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 7, 2021 20:00:29 GMT
It might be very obvious but Donald Sutherland has nominations for Golden Globes, BAFTA, Emmy but no Oscar nominations. He's also oddly missing a SAG nomination (?) and iirc doesn't have one in any way (like Hackman's ensemble nominations at least)Just realized, left out of SAG this year, again..... 
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Post by thomasjerome on Feb 7, 2021 20:07:00 GMT
He's also oddly missing a SAG nomination (?) and iirc doesn't have one in any way (like Hackman's ensemble nominations at least) Just realized, left out of SAG this year, again..... I'm sure he'd get in if they had a supporting category. Only much-buzzed supporting performances gets nominated there (such as John Lithgow for "The Crown" or Gillian Anderson, this year for the same show again). It was shitty when they snubbed him for "Without Limits" though.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 18, 2021 20:29:15 GMT
Mentioned this today with the Gena Rowlands chatter ........no BAFTA nods - not even in her peak Faces-Gloria run......seems kind of surprising that they could have tossed her one later although BAFTA doesn't seem to do that much which doesn't speak well for Morgan Freeman's chances to get a BAFTA nod...... 
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 18, 2021 20:20:49 GMT
Not 100% sure of this but think this is right: IF Glenn Close loses the Oscar this year she will tie Deborah Kerr as the most nominated male or female across Oscar and BAFTA combined without a competitive acting win - 0 for 10 - Close 8 Oscar nods, 2 Bafta.........Kerr 6 Oscar nods, 4 BAFTA 
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Post by sirjeremy on Mar 18, 2021 22:29:13 GMT
Not 100% sure of this but think this is right: IF Glenn Close loses the Oscar this year she will tie Deborah Kerr as the most nominated male or female across Oscar and BAFTA combined without a competitive acting win - 0 for 10 - Close 8 Oscar nods, 2 Bafta.........Kerr 6 Oscar nods, 4 BAFTA  Amy Adams beats both of them with six Oscar nods and seven BAFTA nods with 0 wins from either group.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 23, 2021 13:23:28 GMT
Gerladine Page - is a pretty weird one too.........not mentioned yet here........slightly closer to Lange but somewhat like Washington - all 3 of them nodded a lot at the Oscars and undernodded at BAFTA - all 3 with similarly "not great" / patchily "artistic" fimographies overall - and all 3 very distinctly American in their movie roles (up until Macbeth for Washington): * Page got just 2 BAFTA nods but is different because she actually won (BSA, Interiors 1978) vs. 8 Oscar nods and 1 Oscar win; Lange has been mentioned before in the thread - 2 time Oscar winner, 6 Oscar nods, just 1 BAFTA nod, with 0 BAFTA wins (she lost for Tootsie) 
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