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Post by pacinoyes on May 22, 2020 8:49:13 GMT
I watched Cry Freedom for the first time today - can we talk about the lack of a BAFTA nomination for Washington for this film in particular? I mean, if he couldn't get nominated for a sprawling British epic directed by Richard Attenborough, what can he be nominated for? BAFTA of course loved the film, it received seven nominations - they nominated John Thaw for Supporting Actor instead for a performance that really didn't register at all... There was a separate thread once that talked about the things "missing" in Denzel's film career achievements (it was one of "those" charming threads  ........) and I believe it came up there that BAFTA only nominated 2 of his films for BP - both by British directors (Scott's American Gangster being the other) - and how that often just destroys your chances in acting categories without them. But clearly Cry Freedom is his biggest miss in terms of the logistics of BAFTA and following "BAFTA logic" and he was really hurt by the 4 nomination category limit too - maybe. The BAFTAs are batsh it crazy but man they were really crazy when they were limiting categories to 4 nominees.......not only does Thaw get in ........Radio Days gets a ton of nods (7?) with Woody Allen left out of Director and Stone wins Director without a BP nod (wtf!).........Prick Up Your Ears gets a ton of nods (but Molina left out Supporting too!).......and then there's this: Connery is a double acting nominee that year which is amazing given there's just 8 names total and he breaks the "BP nominee gets you acting nods" trend BOTH times  |
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Post by ibbi on May 22, 2020 9:21:27 GMT
Bernard Sanders and the democratic nomination for president.
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Post by JangoB on May 22, 2020 9:27:44 GMT
Jim Carrey not having an Oscar nomination has always felt a bit weird to me. In his prime we truly was one of the biggest stars and his switch from pure comedy to more dramatic performances sure attracted a lot of attention. The man won Golden Globes, got nominated by SAG and BAFTA, and still wasn't able to snatch that Oscar nomination. I mean, regardless of what anyone thinks about the performance itself, him not being nominated for "The Truman Show" is just plain weird considering how much of a success that movie was and how well it did. With "Man on the Moon", a biopic directed by Milos Forman, coming right after that a nomination should've been a no-brainer. And yet once again he misses. Then there's "Eternal Sunshine" but the 2004 Best Actor race was admittedly a tight one. And now it seems like he missed his window.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 18, 2020 11:39:32 GMT
Denholm Elliott "seems" to be the closest I can find related to BAFTA/Oscars acclaimed shutout in reverse - he had 8 BAFTA nods (Washington 8 Oscar nod) - he won 3 BAFTA in a row! - and only one Oscar nod (which came late in his career - A Room With A View at age 64). So somewhat close but not quite.......
Correction here: Elliott had 7 BAFTA film nods (not 8 - he also has 2 more nods for TV)The more you look at Elliott I'm not sure his situation could actually ever be repeated now with the attention paid to precursors overall - he also has 0 Golden Globes nods (!) - he is either the most under-represented actor for these 3 "big" awards or the most over-represented actor at the BAFTA specifically 1 Oscar nod, 0 Globe nods............7 BAFTA film nods in a less than 15 years /3 wins in a row. 1973 A Doll's House Nominated 1979 Saint Jack Nominated 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark Nominated 1983 Trading Places Won
1984 A Private Function Won
1985 Defence of the Realm Won1986 A Room with a View Nominated  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 14, 2020 18:31:32 GMT
A real interesting one - Mia Farrow - never nodded by the Hollywood Academy - has 3 BAFTA nods but they cover 5 combined roles! - Secret Ceremony, Rosemary's Baby, John & Mary (all for 1969) and Purple Rose of Cairo and Hannah and Her Sisters. Sometimes that happens for 2 roles - but 3 like that is quite odd - and not to win for any ......she's 0 for 5 at BAFTA. In Secret Ceremony:  |
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 16, 2020 18:48:26 GMT
Jim Carrey not having an Oscar nomination has always felt a bit weird to me. In his prime we truly was one of the biggest stars and his switch from pure comedy to more dramatic performances sure attracted a lot of attention. The man won Golden Globes, got nominated by SAG and BAFTA, and still wasn't able to snatch that Oscar nomination. I mean, regardless of what anyone thinks about the performance itself, him not being nominated for "The Truman Show" is just plain weird considering how much of a success that movie was and how well it did. With "Man on the Moon", a biopic directed by Milos Forman, coming right after that a nomination should've been a no-brainer. And yet once again he misses. Then there's "Eternal Sunshine" but the 2004 Best Actor race was admittedly a tight one. And now it seems like he missed his window. Just looked into this - out of the 45 actors who've been nominated for 5 or more Golden Globes for movie perfs - Carrey (with six GG noms, 2 of them wins) is the only one without an Oscar nom. Like you said even with a BAFTA nom (Eternal Sunshine) or SAG nom (Man on the Moon), even when costars were being nomd for the same films, he still couldn't sneak in.  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 5, 2020 12:38:49 GMT
Another oddball one - Jack Hawkins had 4 Best British Actor nods within 5 years in the 50s - no wins, and ........no Oscar nods.
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Post by michael128 on Aug 23, 2020 22:15:02 GMT
Beyoncé Knowles-Carter is 0/4 at the Golden Globes :/
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Post by sirjeremy on Aug 24, 2020 7:53:40 GMT
It's strange that Madonna's never been nominated for a Best Song Oscar. These six songs were nominated for Golden Globes:
'Masterpiece' - W.E (won the Globe)
'Die Another Day' - Die Another Day
'Beautiful Stranger' - Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
'I'll Remember' - With Honors
'This Used to be my Playground' - A League of Their Own
'Who's That Girl' - Who's That Girl
And she was eligible for:
'Live to Tell' - At Close Range
'Into the Groove - Desperately Seeking Susan
'Crazy For You' - Vision Quest
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 23, 2020 10:54:54 GMT
I just saw an interview with Ellen Burstyn where she talked about how in some ways she won a lot of awards and in other ways she missed a lot too .......and she just lets it roll off her back and you can go nuts if you take them seriously - she mentioned BAFTA specifically though.
So, I looked her up - just 1 BAFTA nod (she won), so not that glaring but somewhat under-represented for BAFTA nods in comparison to her 6 Oscar nods, 1 win.........so she's a little like the previously mentioned Glenn Close (2 BAFTA nods, 0 wins, 7 Oscar nods, 0 wins) but with a single win (same role for both).
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 26, 2020 18:52:59 GMT
An odd one: This has to be the biggest losing streak in film/TV history (?) at least across Oscars/BAFTA/Emmy's: Angela Lansbury though nominated a lot is - 0 for 3 at the Oscars........ 0 for 1 at BAFTA......... and 0 for 18 at the Emmy's. Also 0 for 1 at the Grammy's  5 Tony's though:  |
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 26, 2020 19:06:59 GMT
0 for 18 at the Emmy's. Holyyyy. That's unbelievable. Apparently she has the record for most Emmy noms without a win.... |
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Post by michael128 on Sept 27, 2020 4:26:21 GMT
An odd one: This has to be the biggest losing streak in film/TV history (?) at least across Oscars/BAFTA/Emmy's: Angela Lansbury though nominated a lot is - 0 for 3 at the Oscars........ 0 for 1 at BAFTA......... and 0 for 18 at the Emmy's. Also 0 for 1 at the Grammy's 5 Tony's though: This reminds me of another absolutely jaw dropping stat. Beyoncé Knowles-Carter is 0/8 at the Emmy’s. With some of their recent questionable decisions, it’s possible she is well on her way to surpassing Lansbury’s record (since it appears she’s been out of commission for nearly two decades now). |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 30, 2020 12:55:03 GMT
Another big one Ken Loach - Has 10 BAFTA film nods across Picture, Screenplay and Director and a win........but 0 Oscar nods |
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Post by sirjeremy on Sept 30, 2020 13:41:34 GMT
I always found it strange that BAFTA recognised Jamie Lee Curtis with two nominations, winning once for what's a solid but not outstanding performance. Also, on her home turf AMPAS has never nominated her (but then I guess she only came close once, for True Lies). Obviously this is in hindsight, but how Trading Places got nominated for her, Denholm Elliott and the screenplay is a mystery to me, it seems like such an atypical BAFTA film. Her other nomination was for A Fish Called Wanda, which they rewarded with nine nominations, but even though that was more of a BAFTA-y film they still could have gone for obvious contenders such as Glenn Close for Fatal Attraction or Barbara Hershey in A World Apart.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 30, 2020 14:27:04 GMT
I always found it strange that BAFTA recognised Jamie Lee Curtis with two nominations, winning once for what's a solid but not outstanding performance. Also, on her home turf AMPAS has never nominated her (but then I guess she only came close once, for True Lies). Obviously this is in hindsight, but how Trading Places got nominated for her, Denholm Elliott and the screenplay is a mystery to me, it seems like such an atypical BAFTA film. Her other nomination was for A Fish Called Wanda, which they rewarded with nine nominations, but even though that was more of a BAFTA-y film they still could have gone for obvious contenders such as Glenn Close for Fatal Attraction or Barbara Hershey in A World Apart. Yes! Very good call..........and BAFTA and many actresses are weirdly stuck at "2 nominations" for a lot of big time actress.......... including both Close and Hershey who didn't even get their 2 nods until the 2010s (!) (The Wife and Black Swan respectively) |
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Post by quetee on Sept 30, 2020 20:10:45 GMT
An odd one: This has to be the biggest losing streak in film/TV history (?) at least across Oscars/BAFTA/Emmy's: Angela Lansbury though nominated a lot is - 0 for 3 at the Oscars........ 0 for 1 at BAFTA......... and 0 for 18 at the Emmy's. Also 0 for 1 at the Grammy's 5 Tony's though: Angela was a victim of being on a hit show with a beloved character but her character never had the dramatic moments to win the Emmy. |
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Post by Viced on Nov 11, 2020 19:30:42 GMT
Kind of crazy that Katey Sagal has never been nominated for an Emmy. 4 Golden Globe nominations for Married with Children and a win for Sons of Anarchy... even if neither of those shows were popular with the Emmys, she's still done countless guest spots, a few TV movies, great voice work, led a few other shows... and still nothing.  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 28, 2020 8:34:18 GMT
Another in that odd American actresses under nodded/awarded @ BAFTA (like Burstyn, Close mentioned earlier etc.) : Jessica Lange for example is a glaring one - 6 Oscar nods, 2 wins, but only 1 BAFTA nod (and it came early .......Tootsie), no wins. She was mentioned before but may actually be the biggest missing US female if you look at her closer.......
Lange is such an outlier in general with her career with her movies being so much lesser than her anyway - like we said in the other thread 4 out of 6 Oscar nods are incredibly ones where she's the sole nominee (a record?).....so BAFTA is just never going to reward someone (American at least) dominating their films like she did.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 11, 2020 12:48:14 GMT
Alan Rickman is a curious case also - he was nominated 4 times for the BAFTA in close succession - between '91-96 - ...and a rare double male nominee in 91 and he won that year Supporting BAFTA for Robin Hood : Prince of Thieves (?!?) but he was never nodded for an Oscar or a Golden Globe (in film) or an individual SAG Award (in film) either. 
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2020 10:59:24 GMT
Gary Oldman - on the shortlist of best actors of the last 35 years - up until 2018 and Darkest Hour had never been nominated for a Golden Globe at all (he won), had only 1 SAG nod (The Contender) and 1 Oscar nomination (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy). He is I guess the most under-nominated great actor in modern times at least (?) up until 2018 that is..... 
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2020 13:24:00 GMT
Gary Oldman - on the shortlist of best actors of the last 35 years - up until 2018 and Darkest Hour had never been nominated for a Golden Globe at all (he won), had only 1 SAG nod (The Contender) and 1 Oscar nomination (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy). He is I guess the most under-nominated great actor in modern times at least (?) up until 2018 that is..... This reminded of the great (and Triple Crown winner) Christopher Plummer who until he got nodded for The Last Station at 80 was 0 for all the big movie awards - Oscar, Globes, SAG AND BAFTA - no nominations in film  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2020 16:00:42 GMT
Gary Oldman - on the shortlist of best actors of the last 35 years - up until 2018 and Darkest Hour had never been nominated for a Golden Globe at all (he won), had only 1 SAG nod (The Contender) and 1 Oscar nomination (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy). He is I guess the most under-nominated great actor in modern times at least (?) up until 2018 that is..... This reminded of the great (and Triple Crown winner) Christopher Plummer who until he got nodded for The Last Station at 80 was 0 for all the big movie awards - Oscar, Globes, SAG AND BAFTA - no nominations in film Actually all these guys are reminding me of other guys now - James Earl Jones an actor similar in career arc to Plummer has never been nominated for a BAFTA either..........not even for The Great White Hope in 1970  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 20, 2020 17:56:49 GMT
This is maybe the most glaring international example - 5 Time Cesar winner Isabelle Adjani - 2 time Oscar nominee - who has never been nominated for a BAFTA - zero - nothing honorary or newcomer awards.  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 22, 2020 21:54:22 GMT
Like Adjani, my beloved Isabelle Huppert is similarly an odd duck at BAFTA too. She won Best Newcomer for The Lacemaker (1977) and then........nothing, no subsequent competitive nods which would sort of be like awarding Streep for The Deer Hunter maybe and nothing else.  |
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........) and I believe it came up there that BAFTA only nominated 2 of his films for BP - both by British directors (Scott's American Gangster being the other) - and how that often just destroys your chances in acting categories without them.
