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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 17:19:07 GMT
I hate this for Close...
The performances are at least being singled out for special praise, so hopefully this won’t be a complete failure for her.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 10, 2020 17:26:48 GMT
While Adams has a spectacular track record in the Supporting category, her record in terms of getting Lead Actress nominations is kind of patchy. Her snub for Arrival, even if I personally wasn't shocked by it because of the sci-fi bias within the Academy, is objectively one of the biggest acting snubs of the 21st century. I don't think Adams makes it in for this, but I'd still predict Close to get a nomination. Yeah, Best Actress is deceptively a tough field to crack, whereas we're struggling to come up with viable Supporting Actress contenders. That's always been Close's biggest advantage here. Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Nov 10, 2020 17:40:06 GMT
Yeah, Best Actress is deceptively a tough field to crack, whereas we're struggling to come up with viable Supporting Actress contenders. That's always been Close's biggest advantage here. Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 11, 2020 1:19:06 GMT
Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5. You're a Bad Terminator!!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 11, 2020 1:27:14 GMT
feeling vindicated right about now
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Post by futuretrunks on Nov 11, 2020 1:28:29 GMT
Adams did nothing in Arrival.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Nov 11, 2020 1:34:28 GMT
Hoping this just helps pave the way for Maria Bakalova to take that Supporting Actress nomination.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Nov 11, 2020 1:38:21 GMT
You're a Bad Terminator!!
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 11, 2020 1:45:54 GMT
Yeah, Best Actress is deceptively a tough field to crack, whereas we're struggling to come up with viable Supporting Actress contenders. That's always been Close's biggest advantage here. Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5. Yuh-Jung Youn in Minari, Olivia Williams in The Father, Olivia Cooke in The Sound of Metal.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 11, 2020 1:46:52 GMT
Hoping this just helps pave the way for Maria Bakalova to take that Supporting Actress nomination. Nothing in the whole flat world would make me happier.
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Post by jakob on Nov 11, 2020 1:59:35 GMT
Welp, the embargo got lifted, and . . . I love how Richard Roeper saw a completely different movie than everybody else 😂
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2020 3:01:02 GMT
Richard Roeper hoping that his Netflix check cleared in time.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Nov 11, 2020 3:30:28 GMT
Richard Roeper hoping that his Netflix check cleared in time. LOL..well with the money Netflix is making, they should’ve greased a few more palms for this movie..Clay Davis style.
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2020 3:31:43 GMT
Richard Roeper hoping that his Netflix check cleared in time. LOL..well with the money Netflix is making, they should’ve greased a few more palms for this movie..Clay Davis style.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Nov 11, 2020 3:40:23 GMT
LOL..well with the money Netflix is making, they should’ve greased a few more palms for this movie..Clay Davis style. Peter Travers’ philosophy
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Post by finniussnrub on Nov 11, 2020 4:00:19 GMT
Yeah, Best Actress is deceptively a tough field to crack, whereas we're struggling to come up with viable Supporting Actress contenders. That's always been Close's biggest advantage here. Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5. But...I thought you said Close had it all locked up...on this very thread...
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 11, 2020 7:00:21 GMT
Colman and Seyfried are likely locked. If Close starts to look like a waste of a spot in supporting actress, I think there are enough potential alternatives floating out there . Kidman or Kerry Washington if The Prom reviews don't suck. Zengel for News Of The World. Ronan for Ammonite. Natasha Lyonne for The United States Vs Billie Holiday. Ellen Burstyn for Pieces Of Woman. Maria Bakalova for Borat 2.I don't think Close is safe at all for a nod with reviews like that. She's not Meryl. There are enough viable alternatives to kick her out of the final 5. But...I thought you said Close had it all locked up...on this very thread... Not that I should actually have to say it, but obviously when I said Close looked like she would win, it was dependent on the caveat of reviews of the movie not being Razzie level (always bear that in mind if I claim anyone looks locked and loaded to win an Oscar, including Viola Davis in Ma Rainy's Black Bottom).. Close probably still had a shot with run of the mill poor reviews, but not these kind of worst case scenario reviews, and I said so on another thread. On the Best Supporting Actress Thread on the Oscar forum on October 24th, I clarified just that. Close was only "locked" if reviews for the film were not disastrous, which they turned out to be: Oct 24, 2020 16:54:24 GMTpupdurcs said: Horrible reviews for Hillbilly Elegy could sink Close's hopes. AMPAS rarely hands out wins for complete criticical turkeys. If fates take Close out of the running, it's probably Colman getting her 2nd, with Seyfried as the dark horse. Zengel I don't see as a threat to win (they've done that already with Anna Paquin, and I feel AMPAS has become super reluctant to reward child actors since). A nomination would be her reward. But assuming her film doesn't completely shit the bed (and Ron Howard is usually a safe, if uninspiring, pair of hands when it comes to middlebrow Oscarbait), Close probably has it in the bag.
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Post by finniussnrub on Nov 11, 2020 10:58:35 GMT
But...I thought you said Close had it all locked up...on this very thread... Not that I should actually have to say it, but obviously when I said Close looked like she would win, it was dependent on the caveat of reviews of the movie not being Razzie level (always bear that in mind if I claim anyone looks locked and loaded to win an Oscar, including Viola Davis in Ma Rainy's Black Bottom).. Close probably still had a shot with run of the mill poor reviews, but not these kind of worst case scenario reviews, and I said so on another thread. On the Best Supporting Actress Thread on the Oscar forum on October 24th, I clarified just that. Close was only "locked" if reviews for the film were not disastrous, which they turned out to be: Oct 24, 2020 16:54:24 GMTpupdurcs said: Horrible reviews for Hillbilly Elegy could sink Close's hopes. AMPAS rarely hands out wins for complete criticical turkeys. If fates take Close out of the running, it's probably Colman getting her 2nd, with Seyfried as the dark horse. Zengel I don't see as a threat to win (they've done that already with Anna Paquin, and I feel AMPAS has become super reluctant to reward child actors since). A nomination would be her reward. But assuming her film doesn't completely shit the bed (and Ron Howard is usually a safe, if uninspiring, pair of hands when it comes to middlebrow Oscarbait), Close probably has it in the bag. "I'm not sure how Close can lose for this. Not sure I've seen a performance in awhile that screamed "give me the damned Oscar" this much just in the trailer alone." - pupdurcs (October, 14th)
"So yeah, I don't see how Close can lose for this. A massively respected overdue actress in A-C-T-I-N-G role that will be widely seen. Reviews would have to be terrible for the film, and even then I suspect Close could still win." - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
"Oh, and judging from the hospital scene in the trailer, Close's character probably has some sort of terminal disease. Might as well mail her the fucking Oscar now. Glenn wasn't leaving this one to chance " - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 11, 2020 11:29:13 GMT
Not that I should actually have to say it, but obviously when I said Close looked like she would win, it was dependent on the caveat of reviews of the movie not being Razzie level (always bear that in mind if I claim anyone looks locked and loaded to win an Oscar, including Viola Davis in Ma Rainy's Black Bottom).. Close probably still had a shot with run of the mill poor reviews, but not these kind of worst case scenario reviews, and I said so on another thread. On the Best Supporting Actress Thread on the Oscar forum on October 24th, I clarified just that. Close was only "locked" if reviews for the film were not disastrous, which they turned out to be: Oct 24, 2020 16:54:24 GMTpupdurcs said: Horrible reviews for Hillbilly Elegy could sink Close's hopes. AMPAS rarely hands out wins for complete criticical turkeys. If fates take Close out of the running, it's probably Colman getting her 2nd, with Seyfried as the dark horse. Zengel I don't see as a threat to win (they've done that already with Anna Paquin, and I feel AMPAS has become super reluctant to reward child actors since). A nomination would be her reward. But assuming her film doesn't completely shit the bed (and Ron Howard is usually a safe, if uninspiring, pair of hands when it comes to middlebrow Oscarbait), Close probably has it in the bag. "I'm not sure how Close can lose for this. Not sure I've seen a performance in awhile that screamed "give me the damned Oscar" this much just in the trailer alone." - pupdurcs (October, 14th)
"So yeah, I don't see how Close can lose for this. A massively respected overdue actress in A-C-T-I-N-G role that will be widely seen. Reviews would have to be terrible for the film, and even then I suspect Close could still win." - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
"Oh, and judging from the hospital scene in the trailer, Close's character probably has some sort of terminal disease. Might as well mail her the fucking Oscar now. Glenn wasn't leaving this one to chance " - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
What exactly is your point here? I made those comments, then I walked them back on another thread and said I could see Close losing if reviews were bad enough. So...uhhhh, what more do you want exactly? Sometimes we say shit in the moment, then we change our minds later. That's how life works. This whole Gotcha thing would be a lot more effective if I didn't also say what I said on the supporting actress thread about Close being able to lose afterwards. You'd only have a point if I held steadfast to the same position that she was unbeatable in any circumstance. Was I not allowed to change my mind? If I changed my position only just over a week later, then I obviously wasn't as confident in my initial statements as I sounded, was I now
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Post by TerryMontana on Nov 11, 2020 11:30:04 GMT
Please stop posting Close's face from the poster, everyone! Gives me the chills!
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Post by finniussnrub on Nov 11, 2020 11:35:02 GMT
"I'm not sure how Close can lose for this. Not sure I've seen a performance in awhile that screamed "give me the damned Oscar" this much just in the trailer alone." - pupdurcs (October, 14th)
"So yeah, I don't see how Close can lose for this. A massively respected overdue actress in A-C-T-I-N-G role that will be widely seen. Reviews would have to be terrible for the film, and even then I suspect Close could still win." - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
"Oh, and judging from the hospital scene in the trailer, Close's character probably has some sort of terminal disease. Might as well mail her the fucking Oscar now. Glenn wasn't leaving this one to chance " - pupdurcs (October, 15th)
What exactly is your point here? I made those comments, then I walked them back on another thread and said I could see Close losing if reviews were bad enough. So...uhhhh, what more do you want exactly?Sometimes we say shit in the moment, then we change our minds later. That's how life works. This whole Gotcha thing would be a lot more effective if I didn't also say what I said on the supporting actress thread about Close being able to lose afterwards. Was I not allowed to change my mind? I obviously wasn't as confident in my initial statements as I sounded, was I now You need to exile yourself on the island of Elba...it's the only way.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 11, 2020 11:37:53 GMT
What exactly is your point here? I made those comments, then I walked them back on another thread and said I could see Close losing if reviews were bad enough. So...uhhhh, what more do you want exactly?Sometimes we say shit in the moment, then we change our minds later. That's how life works. This whole Gotcha thing would be a lot more effective if I didn't also say what I said on the supporting actress thread about Close being able to lose afterwards. Was I not allowed to change my mind? I obviously wasn't as confident in my initial statements as I sounded, was I now You need to exile yourself on the island of Elba...it's the only way. I ain't going no damn Island of Elba!!!!!
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 11, 2020 11:58:06 GMT
Yeah, Glenn is not winning for this. She either wins for Sunset Boulevard or she never wins at all. My poor Glenn
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Post by JangoB on Nov 11, 2020 12:24:14 GMT
Call me crazy (won't be offended, won't cancel you, no worries) but I still think Close will win for this The role is just too much catnip for AMPAS members to ignore: notable makeup + mannerisms + illness + shouting + matriarch. And then the career factor. And then her recent loss which some voters are bound to remember in her favor. And then the barren year factor. Even if this movie will do down in history as one of the worst-reviewed ones to win an acting Oscar, I still think it's gonna happen. At least as of now. There's the old thing about 'critics isn't the same as voters' which is true, but I think that's especially important when a movie gets more negatively reviewed because of some political agenda of the reviewers. In those cases the Oscar attention can actually be completely on the other side like with "Joker" or "Green Book", and although it's clear that "Hillbilly Elegy" is not gonna be as big a hit as those movies, I still think that people in the Academy can certainly respond to one particular performance in it despite the negative and, let's be fair, politically charged reviews. I mean, some critics are blasting the movie for staying apolitical...which is insane and which I think will work in its favor with viewers.
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Post by JangoB on Nov 11, 2020 12:26:06 GMT
Hoping this just helps pave the way for Maria Bakalova to take that Supporting Actress nomination. Nothing in the whole flat world would make me happier. How about if COVID completely evaporated AND you received a 50 million dollar check? Or is it still Tutar getting a nomination?
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