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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 5, 2019 1:12:40 GMT
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Meryl Streep
12
Katharine Hepburn
Jack Nicholson
10
Bette Davis
Laurence Olivier
9
Paul Newman
Spencer Tracy
8
Marlon Brando
Jack Lemmon
Peter O'Toole
Al Pacino
Geraldine Page
Denzel Washington
7
Ingrid Bergman
Cate Blanchett
Jeff Bridges
Richard Burton
Glenn Close
Judi Dench
Robert De Niro
Robert Duvall
Jane Fonda
Greer Garson
Dustin Hoffman
Kate Winslet
6
Amy Adams
Ellen Burstyn
Michael Caine
Daniel Day-Lewis
Deborah Kerr
Jessica Lange
Vanessa Redgrave
Thelma Ritter
Maggie Smith
Sissy Spacek
Who deserved all of them? Whose number is the most inflated?
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Post by speeders on Mar 5, 2019 1:46:28 GMT
Whose number is the most inflated? Meryl's without doubt. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 5, 2019 2:14:19 GMT
Most actors who get that high have a few undeserved ones and ones they didn't get that they should have gotten but DDL is a total odd example - he was nodded exactly for what he should have been and if you replace his Lincoln win with Phantom Thread he'd be rewarded just right too.
On the other hand, the ones Nicholson got post-70s are maybe a little iffy imo but he missed some too so no real big deal there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 2:22:36 GMT
I think Jane Fonda has fully deserved each of hers, give or take The Morning After...
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Post by stephen on Mar 5, 2019 3:16:48 GMT
Most inflated? I don't know how anyone could argue anything other than Meryl Streep.
Who deserved them all? Day-Lewis (deserved more), Lemmon, Page, Bridges, Maggie Smith, and Spacek (deserved more).
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 5, 2019 12:24:57 GMT
Streep is obviously massively inflated.
I'd say Adams is pretty inflated now. She coattails a lot on movies the Academy likes. Her agent deserves their 20% I guess.
Denzel deserved all his and quite a few more besides. Never coattailed anything. If anything other aspects of his film occasionally coattailed his performance (screenplay for Flight, Ethan Hawke for Training Day)
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Post by ibbi on Mar 5, 2019 13:51:16 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. The idea that within a decade she'll probably have more nominations than any other two people is a joke, but the one that really gets me here is Amy Adams. She's DEFINITELY comparable to most of those other 6 time nominees  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 13:59:45 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. She has more BAFTA nominations than anyone else, too.  |
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Post by ibbi on Mar 5, 2019 14:11:10 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. She has more BAFTA nominations than anyone else, too. 1. Yes, but not twice as many as anyone else. 2. The once mighty and wide ranging BAFTA film awards, certainly in the period where she has amassed about half of her nominations, have arguably become worse than the Oscars are (See Amy Adams - 7 BAFTA noms to 6 Oscar ones). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 14:26:14 GMT
She has more BAFTA nominations than anyone else, too. 1. Yes, but not twice as many as anyone else. 2. The once mighty and wide ranging BAFTA film awards, certainly in the period where she has amassed about half of her nominations, have arguably become worse than the Oscars are (See Amy Adams - 7 BAFTA noms to 6 Oscar ones). Yes, somewhere in the early Aughts BAFTA opted to become solely an Oscar prognosticator, but she was well beloved by BAFTA before this, too, so I'm not sure she still wouldn't be this popular with them.  |
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Post by ibbi on Mar 5, 2019 14:33:09 GMT
1. Yes, but not twice as many as anyone else. 2. The once mighty and wide ranging BAFTA film awards, certainly in the period where she has amassed about half of her nominations, have arguably become worse than the Oscars are (See Amy Adams - 7 BAFTA noms to 6 Oscar ones). Yes, somewhere in the early Aughts BAFTA opted to become solely an Oscar prognosticator, but she was well beloved by BAFTA before this, too, so I'm not sure she still wouldn't be this popular with them. Well, prior to moving themselves back into the Oscar season they hadn't nominated her in about 15 years, so  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 14:39:23 GMT
ibbi - The 90s weren't a particularly great decade for her in the US, either... I guess we'll just agree to disagree.  
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 5, 2019 15:16:52 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. The idea that within a decade she'll probably have more nominations than any other two people is a joke, but the one that really gets me here is Amy Adams. She's DEFINITELY comparable to most of those other 6 time nominees Amy Adams' nominations are hardly a joke. Most of them are at least solid. |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 5, 2019 15:32:25 GMT
Hmm. For whatever reason, I thought for sure Duvall had double digits.
And yeah... even if you just took Meryl from 2005ish onward she'd still be by far the most inflated of the group.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 5, 2019 15:44:21 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. The idea that within a decade she'll probably have more nominations than any other two people is a joke, but the one that really gets me here is Amy Adams. She's DEFINITELY comparable to most of those other 6 time nominees Amy Adams' nominations are hardly a joke. Most of them are at least solid. Adams is a weird one. She's a very good actress, but she gets nominated almost too easily, and that probably comes from being in projects carefully packaged for awards season. It's like Adams and her agents have worked out the right algorithm I mean her reviews for Vice were not even particularly stellar compared to some others, but she'd already been pencilled in as a nominee. Emily Blunt is no worse an actress than Adams, and they have a similar profile within the industry. Yet Blunt can't buy ONE nomination, and Adams is on 6! Blunt must be wondering what the hell she is doing wrong. |
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Post by stephen on Mar 5, 2019 15:49:44 GMT
Amy Adams' nominations are hardly a joke. Most of them are at least solid. Adams is a weird one. She's a very good actress, but she gets nominated almost too easily, and that probably comes from being in projects carefully packaged for awards season. It's like Adams and her agents have worked out the right algorithm I mean her reviews for Vice were not even particularly stellar compared to some others, but she'd already been pencilled in as a nominee. Emily Blunt is no worse an actress than Adams, and they have a similar profile within the industry. Yet Blunt can't buy ONE nomination, and Adams is on 6! Blunt must be wondering what the hell she is doing wrong. With Adams, it's almost always about the project she's in. Junebug is the only film she's been nominated for that wasn't nominated elsewhere. When she's front and center like in Enchanted, Big Eyes or Arrival, she can't seem to get nominated on her own. She's been extremely fortunate to be in films with more muscle outside of her, regardless of the quality of her performances therein. Blunt doesn't have that. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Mar 5, 2019 17:34:40 GMT
Hoffman's noms are well deserved. He could even have one more for All the President's men.
Pacino should have been nominated for Scarface (although the film was not well received back then) and maybe one or two more times for GF3 or the Merchant of Venice. But the real snub imo was his performance in Donnie Brasco. On the other hand, his nom for Justice for all was not really deserved, so was the one for Dick Tracy. In the early 90s it seemed they were just looking for an opportunity to finally award him the long overdue Oscar.
De Niro should have one for King of comedy and probably not for Cape fear, though his body transformation and preparation for the role were awsome. I disagree with his nom for SLP. He was just lucky enough to be in an Oscar-bait film.
Bridges: Every one well deserved. Oscar-worthy also in True grit.
Cate Blanchet: I just love her!!! Still can't believe she didn't win for I'm not there.
As for Denzel, he deserved every single one, except for Fences, which I haven't seen so I couldn't tell. He could have grabbed one or two more, for the Titans or John Q or even American gangster, whatever.
For Jack, I don't quite get the Easy Rider one but anyway I don't even like the movie (I'm the only one, I guess). Could totally see him being nominated for the Departed or, most likely, the wonderful Pledge.
The Academy totally has a thing with Streep. I mean, I believe she;s the best American actress alive but, 21 noms? Really?? Come on!!! Looks like a f*cking joke, especially since 2007. Looks like she gets nomnated every time she even passes by in front of a camera. Nominations for The devil wears Prada, Osage county, Florence Foster Jenkins are just laughable but the one for INTO THE WOODS... INTO THE WOODS??????? Oooh boy...
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Post by jimmalone on Mar 5, 2019 18:03:29 GMT
Streeps number is the most inflated.
I don't think there's anyone, where I agree with every nomination. Some like Newman and Pacino should have had more noms though, some others like Washington and Bridges definitely less.
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Post by quetee on Mar 5, 2019 19:53:30 GMT
I didn't realize Denzel had that many. So Tom Hanks has how many, 4?
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Post by stephen on Mar 5, 2019 19:54:49 GMT
I didn't realize Denzel had that many. So Tom Hanks has how many, 4? . |
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Post by quetee on Mar 5, 2019 20:19:01 GMT
I didn't realize Denzel had that many. So Tom Hanks has how many, 4? . I forgot about SPR. |
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Post by AKenjiB on Mar 6, 2019 0:22:34 GMT
I didn't realize Denzel had that many. So Tom Hanks has how many, 4? He nearly made the list probably considering he got the big 4 precursors with Captain Phillips, a Best Picture nominee. He’s still very active in films that get Best Picture nominations so it seems like he’ll get that 6th nod sooner or later. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Mar 6, 2019 17:14:39 GMT
I didn't realize Denzel had that many. So Tom Hanks has how many, 4? He nearly made the list probably considering he got the big 4 precursors with Captain Phillips, a Best Picture nominee. He’s still very active in films that get Best Picture nominations so it seems like he’ll get that 6th nod sooner or later. Sooner, probably.  |
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Post by iheartamyadams on Aug 17, 2019 17:52:59 GMT
Streep's number is obviously something of a joke. The idea that within a decade she'll probably have more nominations than any other two people is a joke, but the one that really gets me here is Amy Adams. She's DEFINITELY comparable to most of those other 6 time nominees Amy Adams' nominations are hardly a joke. Most of them are at least solid. Yep, usually backed by strong critic award haul as well. Junebug, The Master, The Fighter and American Hustle all saw her win or be RU for major critic awards and you can’t coattail your way through critics. Also, several of her noms saw her get BAFTA noms over her frontrunner co-stars Davis and Leo and 3/6 came from films not nominated for BP. I think she took a unique approach that you don’t see often and you certainly never see it work out to the extent it has for her. After an Oscar nom and demonstrating the ability to carry a film to acclaim and commercial success, (Enchanted) the majority of actors would’ve become “leading ladies”, the ones who generally only take leading roles unless it’s a juicy supporting part where they can steal the show. Adams continued to take supporting roles and never demonstrated that sort of ego. It worked out, she average a nom every other year and got to a point where she became an awards event. Her name is synonymous with quality, and she’s an A-list prestige actress. You rarely ever see someone build a due narrative or get this far mainly as a supporting player but she’s pulled it off. I think she’s likely to at least be nominated for the Ron Howard film as well which would put her at seven. I’m curious to see how long she can keep up the momentum and how far she can go. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 17, 2019 18:04:45 GMT
For men 8 nominations and women 7 nominations are kind of the historic "next level" boundaries to cross because it's a log jam of people tied with those numbers.
Obviously no one is catching Streep but no one is catching Nicholson either imo except DiCaprio who likely this year gets his 6th at just 45 (44 now).
That's the guy to watch this year with a very historic nod ......6 nods would put him 1 behind Duvall.......Hoffman......Bridges......that's remarkable in a way and with his pick of roles/directors it's hard to guess where he might finish up.
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