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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 5, 2018 2:53:59 GMT
I really like the film but top 5 (#5) is way too high. I mean when I'm looking at the top 10 in this genre they are movies that move - this one is a top 25 it seems to me but lower than this.......
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 5, 2018 2:54:59 GMT
... Really? It's pretty damned beloved. It's never seemed to be all that popular around here to me. At least, not as popular as it deserves to be. Guess I was wrong, though. |
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 5, 2018 2:57:31 GMT
The Great Silence is the bleakest Western ever made. There is no way out of it, no flaw in its merciless and unforgiving logic – and it ends exactly as it should and spares no one, character or viewer. Like all great tragedies you don’t get depressed by it, rather you just nod your head because it speaks some kind distinct, horrible truth. One of the best endings to a movie ever, really. |
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Post by Viced on Dec 5, 2018 2:57:37 GMT
4....with 305 pointsLet's go home, Debbie. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 5, 2018 2:57:55 GMT
I will say while it features Wayne's best performance, one of the greatest endings ever, and some incredible heights throughout. Mose, the goofy Vera Miles/Ken Curtis scenes, and the Native wife scenes keep it far from this high for me though.
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 5, 2018 2:58:06 GMT
10....with 188 pointsAlive or dead? It's your choice. FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (1965) Nooo, it's the best of the trilogy! |
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Post by stephen on Dec 5, 2018 2:58:42 GMT
Two Leones and an Eastwood round out the top three. A worthy finale for sure.
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 5, 2018 3:00:33 GMT
Hell of a top three gentlemen, no matter how the tale is told.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 5, 2018 3:00:54 GMT
10....with 188 pointsAlive or dead? It's your choice.FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (1965) Nooo, it's the best of the trilogy! I actually agree with this. |
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Post by Viced on Dec 5, 2018 3:03:26 GMT
3....with 397 pointsEvery gun makes its own tune. THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (1966)
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Post by stephen on Dec 5, 2018 3:03:57 GMT
I daresay there isn't a more incredible film ending in all of cinema than "The Ecstasy of Gold" onward.
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 5, 2018 3:04:22 GMT
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is one of the best films ever made ... but I couldn't be happier that Unforgiven and Once Upon a Time in the West topped it. Great results!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 5, 2018 3:04:23 GMT
Please God let Unforgiven be #2
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 5, 2018 3:04:40 GMT
What makes The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Leone’s best (it is) is the breadth of his vision – and it’s deceptive too in how it weaves its strands together. There is of course near the end the amazing scene when his camera spans across the cemetery and their faces and you get his point without him beating it into the ground – that no matter what these men have done they will never match the senseless death and loss and devastation of what a war does to men, to families, to a people.
That’s not just a great Western – that’s a profound statement that transcends the genre too.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 5, 2018 3:05:42 GMT
Assassination of Jesse James is a visual tour de force but I don't think it's that good and I only rate it slightly higher than Fuller's I Shot Jesse James which is a really solid bite-size psychological portrait of Ford, the sad irony of his outcome, and its subtext is certainly more daring (and this in 1949) than the Dominik.
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Post by stephen on Dec 5, 2018 3:06:21 GMT
Assassination of Jesse James is a visual tour de force but I don't think it's that good and I only rate it slightly higher than Fuller's I Shot Jesse James which is a really solid bite-size psychological portrait of Ford, the sad irony of his outcome, and its subtext is certainly more daring (and this in 1949) than the Dominik. Sam Fuller just doesn't get the respect he deserves. |
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Post by Viced on Dec 5, 2018 3:08:19 GMT
I point your attention to the difference in points between 3 & 4...
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 5, 2018 3:09:30 GMT
I point your attention to the difference in points between 3 & 4... I noticed. Crazy how seemingly undeniable this top trio seems to be. |
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Post by Viced on Dec 5, 2018 3:10:39 GMT
2....with 410 pointsDeserve's got nothin' to do with it. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
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Post by stephen on Dec 5, 2018 3:11:14 GMT
2....with 410 pointsDeserve's got nothin' to do with it.UNFORGIVEN (1992) The most quotable film of the lot, and the most heartbreaking to boot. Clint would've made a sublime Best Actor winner, and it should've taken Screenplay in a walk. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 5, 2018 3:11:38 GMT
The whole point of Unforgiven can be read as an anti-alcohol piece if you’re in a weird mood. I mean he hasn’t had a drink for years, has some, in a town called Big Whiskey (no less), and um, kills everybody.  One of the very few undisputed masterpieces in the American cinema in the last 30 years – never does the film stray from its point and most amazingly it finds endless ways to elaborate, reflect and comment on it. |
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Post by stephen on Dec 5, 2018 3:14:16 GMT
The whole point of Unforgiven can be read as an anti-alcohol piece if you’re in a weird mood. I mean he hasn’t had a drink for years, has some, in a town called Big Whiskey (no less), and um, kills everybody. One of the very few undisputed masterpieces in the American cinema in the last 30 years – never does the film stray from its point and most amazingly it finds endless ways to elaborate, reflect and comment on it. What is so remarkable is that every single trope in classical Westerns is picked apart, and you don't even realize it at the time because it plays out so naturally. You don't even realize until the movie's over that in any other film, Little Bill would be the hero. And he does nothing that Gary Cooper wouldn't do except flog Morgan Freeman at the end, but beyond that, his actions are pretty damned understandable. Meanwhile, Will Munny is a horrible villain trying to go straight, but of course he knows that no matter what, his true nature can't be hidden. He is unforgiven by God, unforgiven by man, and at the end, unforgiven by himself. |
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Post by Viced on Dec 5, 2018 3:16:08 GMT
1....with 492 pointsYou brought two too many. ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST (1968)
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 5, 2018 3:17:08 GMT
THE RIGHT CHOICE  |
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 5, 2018 3:18:14 GMT
Greatest head shake ever given!
To celebrate here's the most underrated theme, representing the most underrated character in the film.
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