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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Aug 9, 2018 0:34:59 GMT
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Post by Javi on Aug 9, 2018 0:44:23 GMT
So I guess this is what decadence looks like. When the Oscars start stealing notions from the friggin Critics Choice Awards you know the sun is about to set on them.
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Post by OrsonHepburn on Aug 9, 2018 1:25:33 GMT
Since I'm a little late to this party, I'll just say that I agree with the sentiment and pretty much everything that was said.
All I will add is that this is a slap in the face to every person behind the scenes. People in the tech categories get very few chances to be in the spotlight (however brief and interrupted by cuts to Meryl it may be) and they deserve a moment to shine as artists who are equally important to the film making process as the actors etc.
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Post by tonyz on Aug 9, 2018 1:40:48 GMT
All of this is such horseshit. The addition of best popular film is garbage, but cutting some awards for time is beyond ridiculous. You know they're still gonna have all these jerkoff bits and montages and song performances.
I hope the backlash makes them think twice about implementing these changes, or maybe just make them a one time thing.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 9, 2018 1:58:35 GMT
There isn't really anything I can say that hasn't already been said here better than I can put it. What I will say is that if a 'popular film' is based off of box office then there's a good chance that Nolan will never have a Best Picture nominee again, just a shit tonne of 'Popular Film' awards. Nolan probably won't even win here. Watch this category be monopolized by Marvel in the same way Animated Film is monopolized by Disney/Pixar. |
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Post by quetee on Aug 9, 2018 2:24:13 GMT
There isn't really anything I can say that hasn't already been said here better than I can put it. What I will say is that if a 'popular film' is based off of box office then there's a good chance that Nolan will never have a Best Picture nominee again, just a shit tonne of 'Popular Film' awards. Nolan probably won't even win here. Watch this category be monopolized by Marvel in the same way Animated Film is monopolized by Disney/Pixar. academy is scared black panther won't score nod and people lose his/her shit on twitter. That's why we got popular movie. |
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 9, 2018 2:42:23 GMT
Nolan probably won't even win here. Watch this category be monopolized by Marvel in the same way Animated Film is monopolized by Disney/Pixar. academy is scared black panther won't score nod and people lose his/her shit on twitter. That's why we got popular movie. This is actually believable.
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Post by Pavan on Aug 9, 2018 7:24:36 GMT
and still no award for Stunt Choreography
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 9, 2018 7:53:37 GMT
Also, my last sentiment on this; if the academy thinks any of this bullshit is actually going to improve the ratings of this show significantly, and for more than an early glow year or two, they are deluding themselves. This is a stupid novelty, and I'd predict the impact to be brief, as I would the existence of the 'popular film' award. The simple fact of the matter is, awards shows are for the most part, a damn boring affair. Even a fair chunk of us here regularly shade them for sucking, and we're largely the ones they are aimed at. The old fashioned pomposity of these televised shows just doesn't fit into the modern world. Why would the general movie audience sit through a 4 hour show, when then can check out the monologue online the next day, and just read a list of winners on a thousand sites. If there's a speech they particularly care to see, it'll most likely be on YouTube within hours too.
Televised award shows just aren't must see TV for general movie audiences anymore, and throwing gimmicks at them and disrespecting certain winners isn't going to change that. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 9, 2018 9:25:44 GMT
I supporting getting rid of the most of the minor categories on the broadcast. Just show them in a highly condensed form and make them available on social media. The Emmys and Grammys do this all the time.
Lets face it guys, there is very little interest or debate about who wins art direction or costume design. We focus our attention on picture, director, screenplay, and the acting categories.
Making the broadcast shorter is a GREAT thing. The Oscars are overly long and gets very boring. You want to create something fit for television and make something that people want to watch.
I have no idea what "most popular film" means. Does this mean an audience-voting award? Does this mean the Academy votes for their top ten films that grossed at least 100 million dollars? Whatever it is, if it gets people to watch the program, I am all for it.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Aug 9, 2018 9:27:30 GMT
My exact sentiment too. The latter just kinda screams more bad idea to me than good. It seems now they're set to add a literal popularity contest into the Academy... Yikes. I'm also a bit fearful of the kinds of "popular movies" they might have in mind or go with. Does it stop at blockbusters or franchise films? Would they be turning to perceived "fan favorites" types regardless of quality?
Plus WHO is exactly is going to take home that award?🤔 Could a "popular film" also get nominated for a best picture and vice versa??
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 9, 2018 9:31:42 GMT
My exact sentiment too. The latter just kinda screams more bad idea to me than good. It seems now they're set to add a literal popularity contest into the Academy... Yikes. II'm also a bit fearful of the kinds of "popular movies" they might have in mind or go with. Does it stop at blockbusters or franchise films? Would they be turning to perceived "fan favorites" types regardless of quality? Plus WHO is exactly is going to take home that award?🤔 Could a "popular film" also get nominated for a best picture and vice versa??
I believe the MTV Movie Awards or Teen Choice Awards already have something like this covered.Don't knock it until you hear the final proposal. This sounds to me like an "audience award". They do this at film festivals. Not sure what is wrong with giving out an audience award at the Oscars. |
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Post by CookiesNCream on Aug 9, 2018 9:53:01 GMT
I do somewhat understand the reduce run time of the ceromony. If anything, the excessive skits and montages can become dropped from those minutes just to mostly go straight to the point. Of course, that one is just a bit of wishful thinking on my part.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Aug 9, 2018 10:21:28 GMT
There isn't really anything I can say that hasn't already been said here better than I can put it. What I will say is that if a 'popular film' is based off of box office then there's a good chance that Nolan will never have a Best Picture nominee again, just a shit tonne of 'Popular Film' awards. Nolan probably won't even win here. Watch this category be monopolized by Marvel in the same way Animated Film is monopolized by Disney/Pixar. Even as someone who likes a lot of Disney/Pixar films, I kinda have some suspicion with that category for the past few years; particularly when Brave and Big Hero Six won at the time. In hindsight, when the Academy apparently made some changes to that category so that Boss Baby can make its way into this year, they were really just getting started for something bigger. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 11:44:49 GMT
This is done to reward those franchise sequels
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Post by quetee on Aug 9, 2018 14:57:01 GMT
Has been reported that ABC is behind this whole thing. Hmmm.... ABC= Disney. I guess ABC approach the Board after the dismal ratings and suggested popular movie category.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 9, 2018 15:09:26 GMT
Has been reported that ABC is behind this whole thing. Hmmm.... ABC= Disney. I guess ABC approach the Board after the dismal ratings and suggested popular movie category. This more or less what I assumed was the case. They should tell ABC to eff off and go back to a non televised dinner. |
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Aug 9, 2018 16:03:01 GMT
I've seen almost nothing but extreme backlash to the announcement so far. I wonder if they end up scrapping the idea.
If they wanted to a category, Stunt Work would be a good start. You'd see some blockbusters nominated here too.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Aug 9, 2018 16:04:23 GMT
Has been reported that ABC is behind this whole thing. Hmmm.... ABC= Disney. I guess ABC approach the Board after the dismal ratings and suggested popular movie category. Yeah, this is not a good look. Disney pushing to add a category that would benefit them as a Studio. |
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Post by quetee on Aug 9, 2018 16:07:18 GMT
Has been reported that ABC is behind this whole thing. Hmmm.... ABC= Disney. I guess ABC approach the Board after the dismal ratings and suggested popular movie category. Yeah, this is not a good look. Disney pushing to add a category that would benefit them as a Studio. the new academy president is a punk. He should have told ABC....and... |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 9, 2018 16:24:32 GMT
Might as well at this point.
It's not like the right person/film has won it in the last 5 years or so anyway...
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 9, 2018 16:35:13 GMT
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Post by avnermoriarti on Aug 9, 2018 16:44:28 GMT
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Post by avnermoriarti on Aug 9, 2018 16:50:20 GMT
I don't think it's bad that they're trying to stay in the game however all this shit is misguided, if they're trying to stay relevant why not add a category for VFX driven films ? Virtual reality next and so on, not renegating / looking down at certain films for being what the masses liked best, also how are they going to vote for that ? money or likability ?
The worst part of all is the ceremony, it happens once in f_cking year and better get to the idea for movies like American Hustle to actually win now...
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Post by joephoenix on Aug 9, 2018 17:20:43 GMT
This won't even improve ratings unless they start the show with this category. I'd rather they cut the comedic bits after the monologue. I don't need to see Ryan Reynolds and Melissa McCarthy (or whoever) doing some bit that makes everyone cringe while presenting some random award.
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