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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 8, 2018 17:46:19 GMT
They haven't been a barometer of aesthetic worthiness in a long time, but rarely have they been so ass-backward about not being one.
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Post by agent69 on Aug 8, 2018 17:52:22 GMT
It's like watching Malena dye her hair red and walk to the Nazi's. Oscar's for sale baby.
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Post by ibbi on Aug 8, 2018 18:03:08 GMT
This is the funniest/saddest/stupidest thing I've read in a while Can't even watch a show live in peace! I wonder how long it'll take before people will be spoiling the recipients of awards on twitter. So much for watching momentum swing back and forth between one best picture favourite and another. Hopefully they do a more respectful job than BAFTA does with their whack ass telecast. Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film Surely you just give it to whatever made the most fucking money? What are people voting for? Which movie they loved the most? Isn't there already meant to be an award for Best Picture of the year? They're shitting on their own process. What a joke.
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 8, 2018 18:13:08 GMT
This is April Fools-level news. I was checking the date just to be sure. Then I was shocked that it is really August. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by cherry68 on Aug 8, 2018 18:25:29 GMT
I guess blockbusters will be released early in the season, to sum up the highest number of tickets and qualify as first popular movie.
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Post by Zeb31 on Aug 8, 2018 18:47:38 GMT
Also, apparently they're moving up the 2020 ceremony to February 9, which in turn will make all the other televised awards do the same.
Looking forward to the Golden Globe nominations being out before Halloween!
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Aug 8, 2018 18:58:17 GMT
For Best Population Feature Film, the nominees are:
Avengers: Infinity War Black Panther Deadpool 2 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Mission: Impossible - Fallout
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Post by finniussnrub on Aug 8, 2018 19:04:28 GMT
Can't wait for the inclusion of the "Best Kiss" award...
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Aug 8, 2018 19:18:25 GMT
Also, apparently they're moving up the 2020 ceremony to February 9, which in turn will make all the other televised awards do the same. Looking forward to the Golden Globe nominations being out before Halloween! I don't mind them moving it up a few weeks. Late Feb/early March is way too late.
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Post by Pavan on Aug 8, 2018 19:37:43 GMT
And that is how Oscars will loose their prestige. From now on we won't be speculating a particular Dark Knight or Fury Road for best picture, and whenever some film of that caliber comes and gets only a popular film award, they're only demeaning it's achievement.
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Post by Zeb31 on Aug 8, 2018 19:47:04 GMT
Also, apparently they're moving up the 2020 ceremony to February 9, which in turn will make all the other televised awards do the same. Looking forward to the Golden Globe nominations being out before Halloween! I don't mind them moving it up a few weeks. Late Feb/early March is way too late. Can't say I agree there. Late February already means a lot of films get lost in the shuffle and aren't seen by enough voters; moving it up will only increase that, especially because all the precursors will do the same. We already have awards bodies announcing nominations before everything is even out (SAG voting happening in fucking November, leaving several December releases out every year; the whole Force Awakens BFCA debacle), and this will only make that worse. Ideally these awards would happen much later in the year, not only so that more films can be watched by more people, but also to let hype die down and let voters get a better perspective on what actually ages well and sticks as best of the year. Just look at American Hustle's trajectory.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Aug 8, 2018 19:51:34 GMT
MTV Movie Awards then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 19:52:08 GMT
I don't have anything new to add to the discussion but obviously agree with the general sentiment here. 'Outstanding achievement in popular film'? What a joke . To me the Academy Awards, in their desperate attempt to get more ratings, have been going downhill since the expansion of the Best Picture lineup and they still haven't stopped.
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Post by quetee on Aug 8, 2018 19:53:15 GMT
Why don't they oh I don't know stop being snobs.this knee jerk reaction is gonna look stupid when the definition of popular doesn't lin up with masses.
It's like now they expanded the field and now you just get 4 more movies only small % watch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 19:54:22 GMT
I don't mind them moving it up a few weeks. Late Feb/early March is way too late. Can't say I agree there. Late February already means a lot of films get lost in the shuffle and aren't seen by enough voters; moving it up will only increase that, especially because all the precursors will do the same. We already have awards bodies announcing nominations before everything is even out (SAG voting happening in fucking November, leaving several December releases out every year; the whole Force Awakens BFCA debacle), and this will only make that worse. Ideally these awards would happen much later in the year, not only so that more films can be watched by more people, but also to let hype die down and let voters get a better perspective on what actually ages well and sticks as best of the year. Just look at American Hustle's trajectory.I completely agree with this.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 8, 2018 20:00:35 GMT
Whatever Wanna save time, don't add a bullshit new category, cut the terrible original song category, and therefore the performances of the terrible songs that they typically nominate for it.
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 8, 2018 20:10:16 GMT
I don't mind them moving it up a few weeks. Late Feb/early March is way too late. Can't say I agree there. Late February already means a lot of films get lost in the shuffle and aren't seen by enough voters; moving it up will only increase that, especially because all the precursors will do the same. We already have awards bodies announcing nominations before everything is even out (SAG voting happening in fucking November, leaving several December releases out every year; the whole Force Awakens BFCA debacle), and this will only make that worse. Ideally these awards would happen much later in the year, not only so that more films can be watched by more people, but also to let hype die down and let voters get a better perspective on what actually ages well and sticks as best of the year. Just look at American Hustle's trajectory. Like the AMARAs. We take a lot of time to actually let the movies get seen -- and we're the nerds that actually watch this stuff, unlike the Oscar voters. Even we're behind on what to watch.
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Post by Zeb31 on Aug 8, 2018 21:35:03 GMT
Can't say I agree there. Late February already means a lot of films get lost in the shuffle and aren't seen by enough voters; moving it up will only increase that, especially because all the precursors will do the same. We already have awards bodies announcing nominations before everything is even out (SAG voting happening in fucking November, leaving several December releases out every year; the whole Force Awakens BFCA debacle), and this will only make that worse. Ideally these awards would happen much later in the year, not only so that more films can be watched by more people, but also to let hype die down and let voters get a better perspective on what actually ages well and sticks as best of the year. Just look at American Hustle's trajectory. Like the AMARAs. We take a lot of time to actually let the movies get seen -- and we're the nerds that actually watch this stuff, unlike the Oscar voters. Even we're behind on what to watch. AMARAs >> Academy, take note.
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Post by countjohn on Aug 8, 2018 22:13:55 GMT
This is horseshit. The Oscars are slowly turning into the Grammys. I don't particularly care, but it is sort of nice to have one pop culture awards show that still has a little integrity left. If anything they should have a category for especially obscure films to give them more attention. There's no need for this at all, just an attempt to boost ratings by giving token awards to mediocre or worse blockbusters. Is this basically like that BAFTA category where the public get to vote for a winner? LOL! That would actually be pretty wild though. Vote an oscar winner by phone or online. Sounds a bit like a desperate measure though. Guess there is a realisation that the Academy's taste has become so elitist and arthouse, that they need to invent a category to reward films people actually enjoy watching in significant numbers. The Academy isn't the least bit arthouse, especially not these days. More like stuffy dramas for middle aged people.
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Post by lilibet on Aug 8, 2018 22:18:33 GMT
I get the "point" of doing this. But at the same time, isn't this what other award shows are for - whether it's People's Choice or MTV Movie Awards? It's not like the Oscars don't nominate some financially successful films.
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Post by matheusf on Aug 8, 2018 22:30:39 GMT
This is actually kind of funny. Wasn't Best Picture supposed to be an award for blockbusters at the 1st Academy Awards (in contrast to "Best Unique and Artistic Picture")?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:38:25 GMT
Just when you think the Oscars couldn't get any stupider.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 8, 2018 22:50:52 GMT
This is horseshit. The Oscars are slowly turning into the Grammys. I don't particularly care, but it is sort of nice to have one pop culture awards show that still has a little integrity left. If anything they should have a category for especially obscure films to give them more attention. There's no need for this at all, just an attempt to boost ratings by giving token awards to mediocre or worse blockbusters. Is this basically like that BAFTA category where the public get to vote for a winner? LOL! That would actually be pretty wild though. Vote an oscar winner by phone or online. Sounds a bit like a desperate measure though. Guess there is a realisation that the Academy's taste has become so elitist and arthouse, that they need to invent a category to reward films people actually enjoy watching in significant numbers. The Academy isn't the least bit arthouse, especially not these days. More like stuffy dramas for middle aged people. I'd say when Moonlight and Birdman can win Best Picture, a significant portion of the Academy now looks towards critically aclaimed arthouse fare to reward. Critics carry a lot of weight now with the Oscars, and it makes it harder for more conventionally populist fare like Braveheart or Gladiator to actually win BP. Obviously you still get your middlebrow Lions, Darkest Hours and Theory Of Everything's still nominated, but the BP winners seem to be getting less and less conventional. Even 10 years ago, there's no way I'd have imagined The Shape Of Water as a BP winner. Like I think A Beautiful Mind could still be nodded for BP today, but wouldn't win. They'd go for something more beloved by critics, who usually lean in a more arthouse direction.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Aug 8, 2018 23:08:58 GMT
How the Oscars have fallen... This is just ridiculous. What's next? A category for the "Best Kiss" or the "Best Villain"?
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Post by JangoB on Aug 8, 2018 23:19:37 GMT
Dammit, I'm SO happy that Kevin O'Connell got to win his Oscar properly before this stupidity. Can you imagine if he finally got his due and it wouldn't be shown live?
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