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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 22, 2017 5:12:41 GMT
jesus fuck this is horrible how did you people like this
no seriously explain why
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 22, 2017 12:05:54 GMT
You should have skipped. I would have.
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 22, 2017 12:21:08 GMT
It's absolutely fucking awful
what's your prof's problem?
I wanted to punch Chazelle's face after that ridiculously cutesy opening shot
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Sept 22, 2017 13:57:15 GMT
how did you people like this I think it all comes down to the four-letter word: hype. I wouldn't say it's "horrible", but it's certainly overpraised. Some of the songs are actually catchy and well written, but the cinematography/costumes are too garish and the choreographies seem artificial. I think that, with the passing of time, people are going to evaluate it and realize it's nothing special. But on what grounds did your teacher decide to show this film in a class?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 16:11:50 GMT
don't colour me surprised if ur prof turns out to be a racist womanizer, since pretty white girls dancing is the closest to something worth showing here for a class
seriously what was he trying to show wtf
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Post by idioticbunny on Sept 22, 2017 16:27:16 GMT
Damn, so much hate here. I'll try and level it out. I'm not a big fan of it, but it's grown on me over time. I think outside of Justin Hurwitz's wonderful music and Linus Sandgren's cinematography, I don't think it really offers anything we haven't seen before. But looking at it simply as an ode to classic musicals like Fred & Ginger, Gene Kelly, or Jacques Demy, I think it works just fine. I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something with far more bite to it and more of the darkness that Chazelle showed with Whiplash, but after getting past that and trying to see it as some light entertainment with great technical design, I got over it. As ingmarhepburn said, I think it had a lot to do with hype - as I feel a lot of people's recent favorites tend to stem from. However, I don't think it's a bad film at all. It doesn't offer anything new to the genre, but I'm also not entirely sure that was Chazelle's intention from the get-go. I think he just wanted to revitalize the musical genre while paying respects to its classics, and if that's the case, I think it works. But I've yet to understand placing it among the greatest musicals of all-time. The music certainly is fantastic, though, and I will vehemently disagree with anyone who says otherwise (unless it's just not your music taste, of course) Even though I wasn't huge on the movie (still like it, but don't love it as much as everyone else here), I still listen to that soundtrack quite frequently.
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 22, 2017 17:02:34 GMT
the music and colors are definitely the highlights but even those get grating towards the end of it
it's something about modern musicals contrasting w older ones lol shit idk i'm doneee
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Post by atn on Sept 22, 2017 17:29:54 GMT
Told ya so
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Sept 22, 2017 18:01:13 GMT
Because I have something important: a heart. Nah, but sad you don't enjoy it. Here are my thoughts on it, taken from my top 10 of 2016.
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Post by quetee on Sept 22, 2017 18:15:16 GMT
I think it's the last ten mins that people love. Had there been no dream sequence, which nearly every single musical had back in the day, I doubt the words magical would be used to describe it.
As for the opening number, I thought the direction was a mess.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 22, 2017 18:43:06 GMT
La La Land's opening is so fucking cringe and people that LOVED the shit out of that opening should be ashamed It's a good movie though, it has its virtues. -- but fuck it, thank god it didn't win fucking Best Picture, because that would be annoying
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Post by notacrook on Sept 22, 2017 19:09:18 GMT
When I first watched it, I really fucking liked it. I've slightly cooled on it lately (I mean, it's still in my top 5 of 2016, but yeah). I never liked the opening sequence that much, although the song's great, and the film's biggest flaw is that there is a good 20-30 minutes in the middle that just kinda drag and become pretty by-the-numbers.
Still, I think it's very good. Thank god it didn't beat Moonlight though.
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Post by thomasjerome on Sept 22, 2017 20:12:10 GMT
Most disappointing film of 2016. The whole thing is insanely average. Unlike most people here, Im not even big on Stone's performance and even slightly annoyed when she won. And Ryan Gosling got nominated for this? I like the guy but for this?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 22, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
It's on HBOgo and I groaned when I saw it was the latest Saturday addition. I can't stand musicals, so I'll be skipping this one.
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Post by tobias on Sept 22, 2017 20:48:58 GMT
Film Socialism You have to soak it up and learn, you uncultured pleb^^ Is it better than Un Femme is a Femme though? On a serious note. I did like it, thought the pacing was good, the cinematography was flat but there were some nice moments and I liked the colors, all the other technical aspect were coherent but there was no real idea that was driving it (like the pacing in Black Book which is more than just good pacing). Usually I would hate to start thoughts on a film by talking about technicalities like that and it sounds incredibly dumb but I think in this case it has a strange relevance because what is most5 central to the film is cultural resonance, not in the way that Spring Breakers has but in the way that I actually went to a brim full theater and got the last seat. People were enamored with this film and I think many can't describe it because I think it captures (in a way that is entirely non-analytical and not selfaware) a cultural Zeitgeist in its cultural allure and part of this is the pacing which you could describe as "milenial" (not a fan of this word but it is there and part of culture), it is quirky but not Noah Baumbach, not niche culture but I guess the dream of exceptionality in a world where exceptionality is an advertisement (and I think people unconciously realize that). It is a conservative film, almost a film that reminds me of the first half of the 20th century, of people that just want to peacefully lead their lives people that wish for absolute values, something they can unironically belive in (see youth talk about and you will realize that there is a very important conflict they don't understand and that will bring great misery upon them) - but I guess last time people unironically belived in something that was Hitler, I hear nowadays they ironically belive in Trump. Maybe this would be the place to talk about Heidegger and leading and authentic live but I will only namedrop him here. The point is that this film is most definitely not a discourse about this (in a way that I think Spring Breakers is) but it lies within this film as an event and its attraction upon people. I think it speaks to middle class youth in a way that an intellectual film about white trash would never. It's not selfaware, it is cookie cutter, it seaks for a place in society and it struggles for something new (where it fails but maybe it wanted to fail all along) in a love hate relationship to traditional values; isn't that a good description of youth? Not the kind of youth you politically talk about but nontheless probably the largest portion. The film makes me think about shitty jobs and I mean not the jobs where you clean shit up, I mean the shitty middle class jobs that pay your bills but people have no clue why they really are doing this and ontop of that comes the fear of ending up in the lower class but also the idea of leaving an individual live and chasing ones dream and stuff. Edit: Oh yah and it feels very 50's, in the context of the actual message the film drives for, this is very shit but I do like 50's aesthetics and it was interesting to seem them applied to today. I didn't think it was exceptional but I still liked it. As long as you don't subversively discuss culture and the prospects of youth, you have no buisness watching this over Umbrellas of Cherboug or Singing in the Rain or Meet me in St. Louis, etc.
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Post by tobias on Sept 22, 2017 21:02:57 GMT
La La Land's opening is so fucking cringe and people that LOVED the shit out of that opening should be ashamed It's a good movie though, it has its virtues. -- but fuck it, thank god it didn't win fucking Best Picture, because that would be annoying The opening is good, don't know what ya getting at.
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Post by no on Sept 22, 2017 22:58:09 GMT
Told you it was the worst on that list.
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Post by oneflyr on Sept 22, 2017 23:21:08 GMT
Not as bad as whiplash.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 23, 2017 0:49:58 GMT
La La Land's opening is so fucking cringe and people that LOVED the shit out of that opening should be ashamed It's a good movie though, it has its virtues. -- but fuck it, thank god it didn't win fucking Best Picture, because that would be annoying The opening is good, don't know what ya getting at. to each his own
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 24, 2017 1:23:03 GMT
I wouldn't say it's horrible, but I don't get all the fuss. I'm glad it lost best picture. It wasn't the best picture of the year to me.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 24, 2017 1:23:51 GMT
I think Whiplash was WAYYYYY better than La La Land.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:22:11 GMT
Whiplash was 1,000 times worse, IMO. I'm a fan of LLL.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 25, 2017 13:20:27 GMT
And Ryan Gosling got nominated for this? I like the guy but for this? Testify!!
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Post by dazed on Sept 25, 2017 13:35:43 GMT
I usually don't like musicals, but La La Land is a classic imo.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 25, 2017 13:41:04 GMT
Gosling should have been nominated for The Nice Guys and not for La La Land, even though his nomination for LLL makes more sense.
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