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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 13, 2017 22:29:36 GMT
It started off phenomenally it hooked me in right from the beginning. Then it just goes downhill in the second half. I didn’t buy some of the character’s motivations and arc. It left me wanting more and not in a good way.
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Post by stephen on Dec 13, 2017 23:02:09 GMT
Loved it. ****. Will expand after a day or so. But before I forget: Woody on the swing talking to McDormand about his cancer was probably the best work I've ever seen him do. tbh it's a crying shame Woody will probably go un-nominated for this performance, because it's easily some of his most affecting work. Well, he may not be as out of it as you might've thought . . .
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Post by harlequinade on Dec 17, 2017 13:47:45 GMT
Rockwell is hosting SNL on Jan 13th
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Post by notacrook on Dec 28, 2017 0:20:53 GMT
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 16, 2018 21:50:10 GMT
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Post by CookiesNCream on Jan 17, 2018 23:55:42 GMT
Agree.
I found this to be a pretty solid film with easily the best performance coming from Frances McDormand. I also liked the performance from the rest of the cast as well, with Woody Harrelson and Sam Rockwell in their own dynamic roles. It’s a film that could reflect the relevant times about police activities, their priorities, and finding some unresolved personal justice. In addition to being a dark comedy, it also provided a sense of drama, mystery, suspicion, and rising tensions that all took place in one town over Mildred’s actions vs the town.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jan 21, 2018 17:07:49 GMT
Liked it, didn't love it. For one, I think that some of the characters could've been developed better (especially Chief Willoughby), the score could've been more polished and the swearing could've been trimmed; quite a bit of it felt forced. The biggest problem for me was that for a film categorized as a "black comedy", I found none of it funny in the slightest. Guess I invested too much empathy in Mildred to find any of it funny. Last but not the least, I fucking loathed Mildred's ex-husband and his dumb 19-year-old girlfriend. Rancid pieces of shit who don't add much to the film.
Still, I thought that this was a well-told story of grief and miscarriage of justice. Frances McDormand is phenomenal here and she makes the film. The rest of the cast is great too. It's mostly well written, directed and shot, and the dramatic and emotional moments pack quite a punch. So though I think that the backlash is in some ways unwarranted, I don't think that it is deserving of a Best Picture win. Still, I won't be upset if it wins, I'll be upset over the fact that Blade Runner 2049 and (to a lesser extent) Coco won't get their due.
I'll rate it 8.5/10 and #15 amongst 2017 films I've seen.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jan 22, 2018 19:08:07 GMT
Liked it, didn't love it. For one, I think that some of the characters could've been developed better (especially Chief Willoughby), the score could've been more polished and the swearing could've been trimmed; quite a bit of it felt forced. The biggest problem for me was that for a film categorized as a "black comedy", I found none of it funny in the slightest. Guess I invested too much empathy in Mildred to find any of it funny. Last but not the least, I fucking loathed Mildred's ex-husband and his dumb 19-year-old girlfriend. Rancid pieces of shit who don't add much to the film. Still, I thought that this was a well-told story of grief and miscarriage of justice. Frances McDormand is phenomenal here and she makes the film. The rest of the cast is great too. It's mostly well written, directed and shot, and the dramatic and emotional moments pack quite a punch. So though I think that the backlash is in some ways unwarranted, I don't think that it is deserving of a Best Picture win. Still, I won't be upset if it wins, I'll be upset over the fact that Blade Runner 2049 and (to a lesser extent) Coco won't get their due. I'll rate it 8.5/10 and #15 amongst 2017 films I've seen. I really don't get how you can say the backlash is unwarranted and then give it an 8.5 when you spend the majority of this review shitting on it (deservedly so). I know this is all subjective and I don't intend to change your mind, but for the purpose of discussion; how is it well-written if you complain about the failed attempts at humour and clunky characterisation? And I don't get how anyone can even say it's well shot either, it's flat shot-reserve-shot TV movie tier with absolutely no visual flair.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jan 23, 2018 6:53:19 GMT
Frances McDormand plays a large part in why I gave it an 8.5. Without her performance, the film would've been 7.5-ish i.e. just good. I know that I spent the majority of my write-up highlighting the flaws, but that's because I felt like I needed to list my problems with the film first, and that I could elaborate/explain the things I didn't like more than the things I did like. That's why I said 'mostly'. The characterisation could've been better, and the humor could've been more well defined, but otherwise, I felt that the writing was good. The humour is more inclined towards perception for me. Other than the scenes mentioned in my Letterboxd write-up (slightly more detailed than this one) and anything that Penelope said (those scenes definitely missed the mark), I thought that the film played it completely straight. The film felt more dramatic than darkly comic like so many said. I felt angry at the insensitivity at Ebbing's citizens rather than laughing at it. Different strokes for different folks. I thought that the shot compositions were well done and it made neat usage of different angles. The flatness is due to colour grading.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 25, 2018 15:14:33 GMT
9/10
Almost loved it, and I feel it could go up a half point when I watch it again, but I know it ain't a 10. It had so much going for it, but it just doesn't have that spark that I immediately have with films I give that 10 to.
The script was very good, which I've come to expect from McDonagh, although it is my least favourite of his 3 feature film screenplays. As I had some quibbles with the screenplay, I did need to cast to pull it up a bit, and they didn't fail on any level. They all knocked it out of the park, and I was especially pleased with to see the smaller parts of Landry Jones, Martin, Hedges, Ivanek, Dinklage, Hawkes, Weaver, Peters and Cornish all being nailed too.
Mildred was sympathetic enough and Dixon redeemable enough for the film to work, and most importantly I got plenty of laughs, and I got plenty of feels too.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jan 25, 2018 19:53:46 GMT
Its a good movie. Excellently acted and with a lot of good symbolism and a strong message. But it is sadly also a flawed film. I liked it and i would watch it again at any time as it was enjoyable, tense and had a lot of grew character development and dark humor. And here is the first problem. The story itself was incredibly serious and were the characters and while I do not mind dark humor in a heavy weighted film like this, here it was a bit too much, sometimes Martin McDonagh lost himself in that and it often felt like he did several scenes or made several decisions just for the sake of the humor.Another flaw the film had were some lose ends and some weird decisions. Now you have a great character like the one Woody Harrelson plays. You build him up extremely well just to kill him randomly off after less than half the film, just because you don't really know where to head with that character or because it doesnt serve any more purpose. Sure there are some critical moments of the film that are still influenced by that character after his death, but still, it felt weird. Other than that it was a great film that served as a showcase for some of the best performances of the year. First you have Frances McDormand who turns into one of this years most memorable and outstanding performances. She really becomes he role and you feel that hatred and broken heart she has. Great performance and one of the most perfect casting decisions in a long time. Woody Harrelson as mentioned was also good and had a great character. The Oscar nomination he received for it overrates the performance a little though. Sam Rockwell is definitely the stronger supporting role. What a character! And I love the way they developed him, which was unexpected and felt so real and good, because although it was hard to like him, you still kind of felt sorry for him. Wonderful performance. Abbie Cornish was the weakest link of the film. While Rockwell, McDormand and Harrelson were perfect casting coops, she was not. Totally miscast. Good to see John Hawkes and Peter Dinklage in significant supporting roles. Lucas Hedges was all right and I really liked Caleb Landry Jones who gave one of the best performances of his career. Great score, great atmosphere. A very good and watchable movie.
Current Nominations for:
Best Actress in a Leading Role: Frances McDormand Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Sam Rockwell Best Score Best Ensemble
Rating: 8/10
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jan 30, 2018 21:17:58 GMT
Its a good movie. Excellently acted and with a lot of good symbolism and a strong message. But it is sadly also a flawed film. I liked it and i would watch it again at any time as it was enjoyable, tense and had a lot of grew character development and dark humor. And here is the first problem. The story itself was incredibly serious and were the characters and while I do not mind dark humor in a heavy weighted film like this, here it was a bit too much, sometimes Martin McDonagh lost himself in that and it often felt like he did several scenes or made several decisions just for the sake of the humor.Another flaw the film had were some lose ends and some weird decisions. Now you have a great character like the one Woody Harrelson plays. You build him up extremely well just to kill him randomly off after less than half the film, just because you don't really know where to head with that character or because it doesnt serve any more purpose. Sure there are some critical moments of the film that are still influenced by that character after his death, but still, it felt weird. Other than that it was a great film that served as a showcase for some of the best performances of the year. First you have Frances McDormand who turns into one of this years most memorable and outstanding performances. She really becomes he role and you feel that hatred and broken heart she has. Great performance and one of the most perfect casting decisions in a long time. Woody Harrelson as mentioned was also good and had a great character. The Oscar nomination he received for it overrates the performance a little though. Sam Rockwell is definitely the stronger supporting role. What a character! And I love the way they developed him, which was unexpected and felt so real and good, because although it was hard to like him, you still kind of felt sorry for him. Wonderful performance. Abbie Cornish was the weakest link of the film. While Rockwell, McDormand and Harrelson were perfect casting coops, she was not. Totally miscast. Good to see John Hawkes and Peter Dinklage in significant supporting roles. Lucas Hedges was all right and I really liked Caleb Landry Jones who gave one of the best performances of his career. Great score, great atmosphere. A very good and watchable movie. Current Nominations for: Best Actress in a Leading Role: Frances McDormand Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Sam Rockwell Best Score Best Ensemble
Rating: 8/10
favorite character? Its hard to love any of them as they are so full of hatred… but I really liked Harrelson's character somehow the best. Followed by McDormand
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Post by stephen on Jan 31, 2018 14:56:31 GMT
This is an excellent article about how people have wholly misunderstood Dixon's character and the ludicrous notion that the film redeems him in any way. Give it a read.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 31, 2018 15:17:11 GMT
This is an excellent article about how people have wholly misunderstood Dixon's character and the ludicrous notion that the film redeems him in any way. Give it a read.From the article and summing up my feelings on the whole thing: "As someone who never thought to consider Dixon’s narrative a redemptive one until encountering these reviews, I can say with some certainty that it is not. At the start of the film I thought Dixon was a racist cop and at the end of the film I thought Dixon was still a racist who was thankfully no longer a cop."
Dixon was still a dick at the end of the film (pun intended I guess). In trying to do one good thing in the timeline of the film, it doesn't eradicate what a twat he is. After all, at the end of the film, he is setting off on a roadtrip that may result in him taking part in the murder of a man, who only might have committed a rape. He isn't redeemed, he's still a prick, he just stopped outwardly acting like one for a while.
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Post by harlequinade on Jan 31, 2018 17:29:26 GMT
While I agree the movie doesn't redeem him I thought it was extremely powerful that even someone as violent and prejudiced understands that rape is something justice must be served for .
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Post by Film Socialism on Jan 31, 2018 19:45:25 GMT
This is an excellent article about how people have wholly misunderstood Dixon's character and the ludicrous notion that the film redeems him in any way. Give it a read.there is a clear divide between dixon at the start and dixon at the end. he reads a letter from someone he knew for a couple of years and finds "love" through that somehow (nevermind the fact he just set a woman's billboards on fire immediately prior to that), and then goes on to be a better person, we are led to believe. how much the film redeems him is up to question, but pretending his arch isn't there so one can feel less guilty about how insensitive this film is is extremely lazy criticism.
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Post by stephen on Jan 31, 2018 20:00:55 GMT
This is an excellent article about how people have wholly misunderstood Dixon's character and the ludicrous notion that the film redeems him in any way. Give it a read.there is a clear divide between dixon at the start and dixon at the end. he reads a letter from someone he knew for a couple of years and finds "love" through that somehow (nevermind the fact he just set a woman's billboards on fire immediately prior to that), and then goes on to be a better person, we are led to believe. how much the film redeems him is up to question, but pretending his arch isn't there so one can feel less guilty about how insensitive this film is is extremely lazy criticism. Well, of course his character goes through an arc: all characters go through one in the course of a narrative. It's just that people misunderstand what Dixon's arc actually is. It's not a story of redemption; it's a story of someone realizing his flaws and attempting to atone for them through his actions. Dixon is not a better man at the end of the movie, but he has the potential to be one. Three Billboards isn't trying to say that he's a good person, but it is trying to say that he is a person, rather than the dehumanized monster the film's critics make him out to be. Racists may be reprehensible in their worldview, but they are still people with dimension to them, and not all of them are irrevocably evil. (Also, Dixon didn't torch the billboards; Mildred's ex did.)
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Post by stephen on Jan 31, 2018 20:07:32 GMT
This is an excellent article about how people have wholly misunderstood Dixon's character and the ludicrous notion that the film redeems him in any way. Give it a read.From the article and summing up my feelings on the whole thing: "As someone who never thought to consider Dixon’s narrative a redemptive one until encountering these reviews, I can say with some certainty that it is not. At the start of the film I thought Dixon was a racist cop and at the end of the film I thought Dixon was still a racist who was thankfully no longer a cop."
Dixon was still a dick at the end of the film (pun intended I guess). In trying to do one good thing in the timeline of the film, it doesn't eradicate what a twat he is. After all, at the end of the film, he is setting off on a roadtrip that may result in him taking part in the murder of a man, who only might have committed a rape. He isn't redeemed, he's still a prick, he just stopped outwardly acting like one for a while. Exactly. Dixon is never absolved of the horrible things he did. The one thing he is forgiven for (throwing Red out of the window) doesn't wipe the slate clean. And at the end of the film, he and another toxic individual are gearing up to take part in vigilante justice based solely on a hunch. In no way are we, the audience, meant to take that as an improvement on his or Mildred's characters. The fact that both have doubts about their quest is what we should be focusing on, because that is a sign that they could change for the better . . . if they make the decision to let go of their anger/hate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 21:51:58 GMT
there is a clear divide between dixon at the start and dixon at the end. he reads a letter from someone he knew for a couple of years and finds "love" through that somehow (nevermind the fact he just set a woman's billboards on fire immediately prior to that), and then goes on to be a better person, we are led to believe. how much the film redeems him is up to question, but pretending his arch isn't there so one can feel less guilty about how insensitive this film is is extremely lazy criticism. Well, of course his character goes through an arc: all characters go through one in the course of a narrative. It's just that people misunderstand what Dixon's arc actually is. It's not a story of redemption; it's a story of someone realizing his flaws and attempting to atone for them through his actions. Dixon is not a better man at the end of the movie, but he has the potential to be one. Three Billboards isn't trying to say that he's a good person, but it is trying to say that he is a person, rather than the dehumanized monster the film's critics make him out to be. Racists may be reprehensible in their worldview, but they are still people with dimension to them, and not all of them are irrevocably evil. (Also, Dixon didn't torch the billboards; Mildred's ex did.) While this sounds good in theory, where it falls apart for me is that Dixon never felt like a real person at all. And this isn't the fault of Rockwell's performance (which is solid for most of the movie, even very good at one point), rather the writing. Most of the characters in the film came off as ridiculously exaggerated and that didn't work for what I felt it was going for.
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Post by stephen on Jan 31, 2018 22:37:40 GMT
Well, of course his character goes through an arc: all characters go through one in the course of a narrative. It's just that people misunderstand what Dixon's arc actually is. It's not a story of redemption; it's a story of someone realizing his flaws and attempting to atone for them through his actions. Dixon is not a better man at the end of the movie, but he has the potential to be one. Three Billboards isn't trying to say that he's a good person, but it is trying to say that he is a person, rather than the dehumanized monster the film's critics make him out to be. Racists may be reprehensible in their worldview, but they are still people with dimension to them, and not all of them are irrevocably evil. (Also, Dixon didn't torch the billboards; Mildred's ex did.) While this sounds good in theory, where it falls apart for me is that Dixon never felt like a real person at all. And this isn't the fault of Rockwell's performance (which is solid for most of the movie, even very good at one point), rather the writing. Most of the characters in the film came off as ridiculously exaggerated and that didn't work for what I felt it was going for. I do think one of the issues with Three Billboards is how broadly the characters are depicted, something that I feel works better on stage (where McDonagh hails from). They didn't feel as rich or as realistically drawn as the In Bruges trio was, but I feel the actors went a long way towards plugging the holes.
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Post by jimmalone on Feb 2, 2018 12:05:24 GMT
Saw this a few days ago. I think it's a great film, mainly because of the three main characters, through which many problems and questions, whether they social or moralic, are portrayed. Actually McDormand's character is probably the weakest link, cause it's quite one-dimensional in contrast to the ones of Harrelson and Rockwell. It's a very good told movie; I really liked McDonagh's pace here and the way he developped the story bit by bit. I think the dialogues were not always great, but sometimes a bit clumsy and he didn't always hit the right tone.
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Post by wilcinema on Feb 3, 2018 22:15:13 GMT
I found this very interesting trivia on IMDb:
There are several allusions to Don't Look Now. Not just the storylines of both films being about parents grieving the death of a daughter. The film Dixon's mother is watching on telly about "the dead girl" is Don't Look Now; we hear a few brief notes from Pino Donaggio's score. Red is the key colour in both films: the eponymous billboards are bright red and the agency guy is called Red. Both films have a dwarf, a useless priest and hopeless cops, a nasty fall and a massive knife, children left to play alone by water, a kids' toy bobbing in water.
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Post by harlequinade on Feb 9, 2018 17:39:56 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 10, 2018 1:30:38 GMT
I feel like that's a deliberate slight to the people criticizing it. And I love it.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Feb 16, 2018 0:34:16 GMT
Just got back from seeing this. Please give it every possible Oscar.
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