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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 11, 2022 23:49:55 GMT
* I've talked about Pet Sounds being overrated
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Post by Joaquim on Sept 15, 2022 22:47:17 GMT
Idk about you guys but Dinosaur Jr. and Pavement are basically the same band to me. Think Pavement might have the better songs tho
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 28, 2022 0:39:53 GMT
Not sure if this is “unpopular” – more like a random music-related opinion – but I kind of prefer it when bands/artists choose album titles that don’t correspond to a song title on the album. Like if I were in a band, I feel like naming my album after one of the songs puts more pressure on that song to be the “best” or at least among the best songs on that album. I realize that it’s trickier if it’s like a concept album or something, but it’s disappointing in a way when title tracks are actually one of the weaker songs on the album, so I’d rather go into it and listen to each song on an equal playing field without the perception of a song “representing” the album as a whole.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 28, 2022 12:02:24 GMT
Not sure if this is “unpopular” – more like a random music-related opinion – but I kind of prefer it when bands/artists choose album titles that don’t correspond to a song title on the album. Like if I were in a band, I feel like naming my album after one of the songs puts more pressure on that song to be the “best” or at least among the best songs on that album. I realize that it’s trickier if it’s like a concept album or something, but it’s disappointing in a way when title tracks are actually one of the weaker songs on the album, so I’d rather go into it and listen to each song on an equal playing field without the perception of a song “representing” the album as a whole. Oh I see where you're coming from. I don't know why, but there's something about that that bugs me. And to me, this happens more often than it should where the title songs aren't even top 3 on the album. So it's a little disappointing. Certain things I'm nitpicky about when it comes to music. For instance, although I don't watch tv anymore, when I would see a great, classic song used in a commercial. It ruined it for me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 4, 2022 21:33:13 GMT
* The Bobby Lees "Bellevue" (October 7th, 2022) is one of the great American - and it is very American - Garage Rock / Punk records of recent years - not just "this" year or "the last couple of years" - but in this whole 10-12 year era - going back to the Black Lips "Arabia Mountain" (2011). It deserves every fawning review it's gonna get - not just mine ......... Sam Quartin most of all.... * Say what you want about Ted Nugent - um.......but Stranglehold still sounds good tbh - especially if you haven't heard it in a while * As great as Blondie were - like Bowie they were also mostly singles specialists - except for Parallel Lines - an all-timer record - which towers over the rest of their album catalog
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 12, 2022 21:02:15 GMT
* Devo's Girl U Want (1980) is a very precise song - it's hard to cover - Soundgarden covered it for one but not particularly well......but it's not their fault - the original song is so lean, with nothing extraneous musically or vocally - it's a musical dead end to try to recreate or expand .......to do it "with feeling" goes against its design * White Reaper have been totally lost on me - I don't get how they have a major record deal, I don't get their "hooks", their look, why girls like them - none of it ........ and yet "Pages" (2022) is the most insidiously catchiest REALLY popular straight up Rock song by a crappy band since maybe "Mr. Brightside" by The Killers...... I mean my local shitbag radio station plays it constantly.........and I hear it in the supermarket .......you just never know when lightning will strike.......also the video blows.......... which is comforting in a strange way to let you know it's probably a fluke song........I guess..... * The Hollies proto-Power Pop "Carrie Anne" (1967) has got to be the goofiest hit song - with its 50s crooning, doo-wop opening, its child-like verses, its non-rhyming chorus (!?!), an odd, exuberant bridge ( "So like a woman to me!" - what is she not "really" a woman?), a weird percussion break (very unique island drums that sounds like drunk piano) and an odd ending that is sort of like the Who (not kidding, it sounds a bit like the "I'm A Boy" crescendo)........it's like 5 separate songs stitched together and if it was by The Beatles people would say it was avant-garde......
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 1, 2022 8:52:58 GMT
* Metallica's Lux Æterna (2022) - Is just product pushing formula....... the lyrics seem rote ..........and Hetfield used to be better at it * Morrissey's - Rebels Without Applause (2022) - disappoints a bit - a sweetly nostalgic time filler it sounds rather light and jaunty - I was expecting something else .......sounds very Smiths-like though...... the bass........somebody should say "that bass sounds like Andy Rourke, Moz!" and watch him flip out * No one in Rock - who emerged in the 90s - wrote better or especially weirder - bridges - than Kim Shattuck: Her bridges always sound like they are cut off a line too fast or go for one line too long - in a perfectly imperfect and memorable way - she was a great songwriter anyway .......but you can learn a whole lot about how to actually craft songs from her......and how to sing 'em too - how she goes just over the start of the "solo" of "Agony" which isn't a solo anyway - it's more like bashing the guitar's guts in - once she cuts off the line from the bridge that is.....
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 1, 2022 10:21:03 GMT
* Metallica's Lux Æterna (2022) - Is just product pushing formula....... the lyrics seem rote ..........and Hetfield used to be better at it I like the song fine, but yeah Hetfield has this slightly tiresome penchant for milking a certain rhyming scheme ad nauseam.... I think it works best in something like the bridge to "Blackened," but it had already reached the point of self-parody in "Dirty Window"...
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Post by DaleCooper on Dec 1, 2022 17:41:48 GMT
* Metallica's Lux Æterna (2022) - Is just product pushing formula....... the lyrics seem rote ..........and Hetfield used to be better at it Not sure this is that unpopular to be honest. It has been a while since Metallica produced anything of real quality, and this album seems to be more mediocrity.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2022 12:06:19 GMT
* I always talk about Bowie albums being overrated - he's mostly a singles artist imo not an album one - well despite having several patchy albums wrongly labelled as masterpieces - he also made more "front loaded albums" than any major Rock artist ever - and I'm not just talking Low either.......almost all his albums have better stuff up front and grow shakier at the end * Suede routinely make better albums since reuniting - and without Bernard Butler btw (!) - than they did in their peak years - what other band can you say that about? * Kathleen Hanna can be a bit hard to take with her voice and whole schtick but if you did a box set across Bikini Kill, Le Tigre and The Julie Ruin she'd have a wildly diverse boxset that pisses all over Courtney Love but also a lot of "pop" music and is feminist but as hard on the girls as she is on the boys.....she also writes great one-liners "Everybody says so.......I don't really think so" is as nifty a summation of the Rock and Roll ethos as we've had in this whole new century......and "Oh Come On" is a great piss take that swipes at every female singer on the charts - then and now .....
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 13, 2022 21:45:12 GMT
he also made more "front loaded albums" than any major Rock artist ever - and I'm not just talking Low either.......almost all his albums have better stuff up front and grow shakier at the end I love all of Low, but if anything I'd say that album is backloaded... for me the best stuff is on Side 2.
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Post by DeepArcher on Dec 13, 2022 23:08:51 GMT
he also made more "front loaded albums" than any major Rock artist ever - and I'm not just talking Low either.......almost all his albums have better stuff up front and grow shakier at the end I love all of Low, but if anything I'd say that album is backloaded... for me the best stuff is on Side 2. Yeah, I was gonna say ... Bowie definitely has some frontloaded albums, but Low feels like one of the counterexamples to me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 13, 2022 23:23:08 GMT
Fyi....the famous, 70s snarky diss of Low side 2 - and comparatively Heroes - from Robert Christgau
Low [RCA Victor, 1977] I find side one's seven "fragments"--since the two that clock in at less than 2:45 are 1:42 and 2:20, the term must refer to structures rather than length--almost as powerful as the "overlong" tracks on Station to Station. "Such a wonderful person/But you got problems" is definitely a love lyric for our time. But most of the movie music on side two is so far from hypnotic that I figure Bowie, rather than Eno, must deserve credit for it. I mean, is Eno really completely fascinated by banality? B+
"Heroes" [RCA Victor, 1977] When I first heard the Enofied instrumental textures on side two, as background music, they struck me as more complex than their counterparts on Low, and they are. Low now seems quite pop, slick and to the point even when the point is background noise; in fact, after I completed my comparison, I began to play it a lot. But what was interesting background on "Heroes" proved merely noteworthy as foreground, admirably rather than attractively ragged. Maybe after the next album I'll get the drift of this one. B+
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 14, 2022 1:11:39 GMT
Fyi....the famous, 70s snarky diss of Low side 2 - and comparatively Heroes - from Robert Christgau Low [RCA Victor, 1977] I find side one's seven "fragments"--since the two that clock in at less than 2:45 are 1:42 and 2:20, the term must refer to structures rather than length--almost as powerful as the "overlong" tracks on Station to Station. "Such a wonderful person/But you got problems" is definitely a love lyric for our time. But most of the movie music on side two is so far from hypnotic that I figure Bowie, rather than Eno, must deserve credit for it. I mean, is Eno really completely fascinated by banality? B+
"Heroes" [RCA Victor, 1977] When I first heard the Enofied instrumental textures on side two, as background music, they struck me as more complex than their counterparts on Low, and they are. Low now seems quite pop, slick and to the point even when the point is background noise; in fact, after I completed my comparison, I began to play it a lot. But what was interesting background on "Heroes" proved merely noteworthy as foreground, admirably rather than attractively ragged. Maybe after the next album I'll get the drift of this one. B+Hmmm, he must have listened to a different album than me, because there's no way anyone with ears would NOT find side 2 hypnotic. Calling it "background noise," using "movie music" as a pejorative descriptor..... banality? Pfffft..... what plebby nonsense.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 16, 2022 23:06:13 GMT
End of the year blow-out post: More Sex, More Bowie, More Grunge, More Metal, More Unnecessary Robert Plant Bashing ......... * This thread is my best thread - or the most pacinoyes one ever ........I mean if I didn't know me and I read my posts in his thread ....I would love me tbh * INXS "Never Tear Us Apart" (1987) makes many females - in the words of Spinal Tap - "weep instantly" among other more primal things - if you could bottle that stuff it would be a free pass to Unlimited Sexlandia........or you know just keep a copy nearby at all times.......... * On that same topic........Divinyls "I Touch Myself" (1990) was the (better) "WAP" of its day.......... * The Motels "Take The L" (1982) is a really annoying hit song - Take the L out of Lover and It's Over......yeah Add an S to Hit and it's Shit *The B'zz "Get Up, Get Angry" (1982) is simultaneously the best and worst hair metal song and video of all time.......think how good this song could be with ANY restraint.....drummer was later in WASP.......so there you go...........LA Guns too ....... * I regularly mock Bowie's biggest albums - a song artist, not (usually) an album one thx - but his career low - the much mocked Tin Machine (1989-91) is more complicated than that. Artistically a dud but as far as big Rock Star side projects - Reed / Metallica, Jagger's SuperHeavy, too many others, etc. - Tin Machine were far more predictive of the future and encapsulated several zeitgeist-y ideas in Rock in 1989..........it's not that they're "unfairly" maligned.......it's just not the whole story. * Not a big fan but I like the Paul Di'Anno Iron Maiden albums more than what came after - and their debut is one of the few of its type I enjoy (ie Thin Lizzy Live & Dangerous, Motorhead No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith, early Sabbath records, Judas Priest Stained Class, Heaven and Hell / Mob Rules, a couple of others) * I couldn't care less about Alice in Chains - or most 90s Seattle - some songs here and there - a decent amount of Nirvana, a little Mudhoney - but I really liked "Would?" (1992) - which I think was because I completely misheard the lyric as "Into the blood again" - a perfect drug reference line - especially because the song starts with a lyric about "his master" .........though it's actually "Into the flood again" ..........um, wtf........ * Robert Palmer - among the best voices - and singers (not the same thing) in Rock - could never really write but for guys who couldn't really write - he could REALLY sing......unlike others - Plant, Gillan, er Hagar etc. - he never oversung to cover up that he couldn't write and he sang so well and effortlessly many didn't notice how good he was at singing or bad at writing anyway. His catalog is a staggering collection of well sung crap - across all genres too -- all kinds of Pop, American Songbook, Blues-Rock, New Wave (sorta), Soul, Jazz, Reggae, R&B..... except for the occasional ace original like John and Mary and many covers - he did a lot of covers.......because well........ you get the idea.......
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Post by SZilla on Dec 17, 2022 0:04:02 GMT
Keith Morris was the best Black Flag frontman
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 17, 2022 8:42:10 GMT
Keith Morris was the best Black Flag frontman I can't quite agree but I totally do get this POV and btw - how many guys have been a singer in 3 major bands - including one right now at however old he is ...... His book is a fun read also ....
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Post by forksforest on Dec 17, 2022 20:03:25 GMT
Not sure if the opinion is unpopular or if its the musician, but imo Damien Rice is one of the best live performers of all time. No one beats those raw, soul-bearing performances that are also vocally on point.
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Post by forksforest on Dec 17, 2022 20:05:19 GMT
I'll one-up you. Creep is Radiohead's only good song. this is the worst opinion of all time Amen. Creep is good, but goddamn, the only good song? This board really hates Radiohead.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 27, 2022 13:18:51 GMT
* The Clockwatchers seem to have enough great songs for a debut double album in 2023 - now they won't do that - but they likely could.......that would be a ballsy move.......I say: "Do It. Make History!" * Speaking of double albums (sorta) Guns N' Roses were mostly a half an album band to me - the Rock songs (not the slow ones, thanx) on Appetite For Destruction and some others here and there - but the recent Use Your Illusion box set is such a huge mistake of proportion - way too much added to albums that were much too bloated to start with - though not without some winners .........box sets have become an almost dead end in this way - monstrosities of size and bulk with no discernable curation. The best box sets - Faces - Five Guys Walk Into A Bar for one - once told a coherent story from an odd angle.......and the way to tell a comprehensive one is the way PJ Harvey's outtakes or T. Rex's 1972 did .....the "previously released album expansion" - like Bowie's disappointing A Divine Symmetry - recasting of Hunky Dory, The Beatles Revolver and this GNR one take albums of some merit and beat you over the head with it until you can't remember why you cared so much as to want it in the first place..... * Wishing by Flock of Seagulls may be my guilty pleasure song of all time ........normally I don't believe in that term - like what you like without guilt ........but this song, in its single edit is such a shallow amalgam of many other songs - some from their same exact era - it does have a guilt that goes along with it. It's not that they were in sync with a zeitgeist - they were actively borrowing it
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Post by VERITAS on Dec 27, 2022 14:51:56 GMT
I have plenty, but for now...Renaissance is *chef's kiss* but Beyonce’s vocals aren’t this generation’s most gag worthy, not even remotely. Also, Radiohead’s Pablo Honey isn’t as godawful as people make it out to be...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 14, 2023 18:49:19 GMT
* You get to a certain age and you think weird things like "I never need to hear Joni Mitchell or Traffic again really"........nothing against her or them but I don't ........such is life........still it's sad - a harbinger of Death!........um, too much? Still saying those things is way better than saying "I don't need to hear any new music again"
* Led Zeppelin "The Crunge"...........why - just ............ why? Their low point? Or "Hot Dog"? Wrap your head around that matchup of misery.......
* There's a few great Rock songs that mention gardens - REM's Gardening At Night ............No Surprises by Radiohead such a pretttttttttty gahhhhhhhhhden.........but in general gardens are about as Rock and Roll as your arthritic hip or life insurance policy .....
* Dire Straits are a fairly singular band for one that has such clear touchstones - Dylan, Pub Rock, Bill Nelson, Richard Thompson - you should be able to name a billion bands like them but weirdly not really .......especially across popular bands
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 14, 2023 21:47:22 GMT
* Led Zeppelin "The Crunge"...........why - just ............ why? Their low point? Naaahhhhh, not even the low point on that album, and superior to its A-side, "D'yer Mak'er" imo. One of their more rhythmically interesting songs, with Bonham and Jones being awesome, and I also love Plant's vocal scoops...
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 16, 2023 11:28:35 GMT
* Charli XCX's "Good Ones" video is blasphemous, disrespectful of funerals, death, tables, gravestones, dirt, churches, caskets, Bibles.......and sexy af - if it was a little longer it could transform into being a fine porn film.............oh the song is also catchy .........
* I've told this story before - about how my high school girlfriend liked to listen to usual pacinoyes punching bags Led Zeppelin - especially the abominable turd "Kashmir" - during our teen groping sessions. The trauma this 1 song has stamped on my brain is enormous - for something that was very enjoyable to me (aforementioned groping sessions) - far more than the band themselves who I just find unbearable and am dismissive of ...... Kashmir however haunts my days as a kind of lingering bizarro PTSD .........."All I see turns to brown" ............... me too Robert .........me too
* Pat Benatar got away with something no one else would try now - 7 of the 10 songs on her debut are covers - not songs written for her but covers. It's a great idea actually though everyone would tell you that's a huge mistake........she sings the hell out of those 7.......she's sitting in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame btw...............just sayin
* Prince's version of Manic Monday is better than the hit version by The Bangles - who were specialists at covers too - but his version is sturdier, poppier, sadder, weirder, goofier, less slick.......more musical, playful and believable and it's better sung too ...........all across the same approximate length and arrangement.......
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 16, 2023 23:14:08 GMT
the abominable turd "Kashmir"
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