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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 15:57:02 GMT
There is not 1 state that Beshear or Kelly necessarily would definitely deliver to Harris not even their own ......Shapiro at least could push her over in Pennsyltucky which is the smart play........but even if he does he's too milquetoast in the Midwest which she will lose.....Vance was the right pick because he locks that blue wall down.........which is why Whitmer could have trounced Vance in the Midwest.......but.........that's out....... Sir, you're the only one who thinks this ... 🏝️ Of one.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2024 16:01:04 GMT
There is not 1 state that Beshear or Kelly necessarily would definitely deliver to Harris not even their own ......Shapiro at least could push her over in Pennsyltucky which is the smart play........but even if he does he's too milquetoast in the Midwest which she will lose.....Vance was the right pick because he locks that blue wall down.........which is why Whitmer could have trounced Vance in the Midwest.......but.........that's out....... Sir, you're the only one who thinks this ... 🏝️ Of one. Madame, Sort of like you were the one person who thought the assasination attempt WOULDN'T help Trump, huh? That's what makess the board fun after all........
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 16:30:14 GMT
Sir, you're the only one who thinks this ... 🏝️ Of one. Madame, Sort of like you were the one person who thought the assasination attempt WOULDN'T help Trump, huh? That's what makess the board fun after all........ It didn't. That was just media b.s. nobody changed their vote because Trump got shot. In fact, most people thought it was staged.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 23, 2024 16:39:51 GMT
Madame, Sort of like you were the one person who thought the assasination attempt WOULDN'T help Trump, huh? That's what makess the board fun after all........ It didn't. That was just media b.s. nobody changed their vote because Trump got shot. In fact, most people thought it was staged. Staged by who? Because it most goddamn certainly wasn’t Trump. If you’re gonna fake your own assassination attempt you don’t come within one miraculously well timed head tilt of remaking the Zapruder Film live in 4K Ultra HD
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2024 16:46:18 GMT
It didn't. That was just media b.s. nobody changed their vote because Trump got shot. In fact, most people thought it was staged. Staged by who? Because it most goddamn certainly wasn’t Trump. If you’re gonna fake your own assassination attempt you don’t come within one miraculously well timed head tilt of remaking the Zapruder Film live in 4K Ultra HD So much this ^ Also, that's Fake News shit by that other poster...................... he went UP in the polls after the assassination attempt......so I guess it DID help him, huh? .........I mean it's ridiculous to say it didn't........just obviously wrong ........
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 17:09:35 GMT
Lmao at Trump tweeting after midnight.
Lying Kamala harris.....has absolutely terrible pole numbers against a fine and brilliant young man named DONALD J. TRUMP!.
LMFAO
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Post by Archie on Jul 23, 2024 17:16:29 GMT
I'm just here for the memes and shitposting tbh
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 23, 2024 17:19:35 GMT
Nah, it's gonna be Mark Kelly. He ticks all the boxes. He'd be my guy too. Former astronaut (who doesn't love those?), married to Gabby Giffords, battleground state of Arizona (and they have a Democrat mayor so if he needs to be replaced we don't lose that Senate seat), and he was critical of Biden's border security so the attempts to attack Kamala as "border czar" can be mitigated. Republicans would probably try to attack him on guns but he can speak from an experience that I think could reach more moderate voters. Beshear is good and has high approval even among Republicans, but I think Trump/Vance might have an easier time attacking him on crime and immigration. Plus Kentucky won't flip blue.
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 17:35:13 GMT
Nah, it's gonna be Mark Kelly. He ticks all the boxes. He'd be my guy too. Former astronaut (who doesn't love those?), married to Gabby Giffords, battleground state of Arizona (and they have a Democrat mayor so if he needs to be replaced we don't lose that Senate seat), and he was critical of Biden's border security so the attempts to attack Kamala as "border czar" can be mitigated. Republicans would probably try to attack him on guns but he can speak from an experience that I think could reach more moderate voters. Beshear is good and has high approval even among Republicans, but I think Trump/Vance might have an easier time attacking him on crime and immigration. Plus Kentucky won't flip blue. Astronaut is the ultimate symbol of patriotism.
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Post by Archie on Jul 23, 2024 17:57:49 GMT
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Post by cherry68 on Jul 23, 2024 18:03:31 GMT
Massive Kamala W ![](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/368a857b90343a99ddcc40bd5dfc2425fa614b589265b150fb126fc2a5ea32f1.jpg) Isn't she using Beyoncé 's Freedom?
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 23, 2024 18:24:06 GMT
Sir, you're the only one who thinks this ... 🏝️ Of one. Madame, Sort of like you were the one person who thought the assasination attempt WOULDN'T help Trump, huh? That's what makess the board fun after all........ 🤦♂️🤦♂️ You know so much about film, yet so little-to-nothing about politics. First of all, she will NOT lose the Midwest. She has a slight advantage in MN, and MI/WI are very much swing states that could go either way. So is PA. ALL of them she has a shot at winning. Vance doesn't "lock up" SHIT. Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin are NOT gonna be more likely to vote for Trump cuz he picked that bozo. If anything, the OPPOSITE. MN and MI especially have a strong PRO-CHOICE progressive base, and picking a nutjob who's to the RIGHT of Trump on abortion will almost certainly be a net gain for the Dems, NOT for Trump. History will prove (and by history, I mean after the VP debate if not BEFORE) that picking Vance will either HURT Trump or have zero impact whatsoever.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 23, 2024 18:27:39 GMT
Staged by who? Because it most goddamn certainly wasn’t Trump. If you’re gonna fake your own assassination attempt you don’t come within one miraculously well timed head tilt of remaking the Zapruder Film live in 4K Ultra HD So much this ^ Also, that's Fake News shit by that other poster...................... he went UP in the polls after the assassination attempt......so I guess it DID help him, huh? .........I mean it's ridiculous to say it didn't........just obviously wrong ........ And he's gonna go DOWN now that Biden is gone and after the DNC. Give the polls at least two weeks before you see how "obviously wrong" you were.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2024 18:44:15 GMT
Madame, Sort of like you were the one person who thought the assasination attempt WOULDN'T help Trump, huh? That's what makess the board fun after all........ 🤦♂️🤦♂️ You know so much about film, yet so little-to-nothing about politics. First of all, she will NOT lose the Midwest. She has a slight advantage in MN, and MI/WI are very much swing states that could go either way. So is PA. ALL of them she has a shot at winning. Vance doesn't "lock up" SHIT. Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin are NOT gonna be more likely to vote for Trump cuz he picked that bozo. If anything, the OPPOSITE. MN and MI especially have a strong PRO-CHOICE progressive base, and picking a nutjob whose to the RIGHT of Trump on abortion will almost certainly be a net gain for the Dems, NOT for Trump. History will prove (and by history, I mean after the VP debate if not BEFORE) that picking Vance will either HURT Trump or have zero impact whatsoever. Thanks for the compliment, in bold - that 30 days I was gone were fucking brutal to read people "discuss acting" - good to have me back, ammirite? ![:grouphug:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/H7iGS0eK7Bua5qxzMOco.gif) ......... we only have ~100 days to go so we'll find out soon enough.......I will say this though: I certainly can see how YOU " could" be right ^, but I just disagree - the Midwest males are going to go Tangerine Beardo imo and by A LOT that will settle this race.......... BUT regardless basically if people are gonna reply to MY POV instead of just giving theirs - when I didn't seek you out - in the future - just come along with a poll to back stuff up.........because right now Kamala IS clearly behind in PA, MI, WI........in any poll That's fair, right? All I'm saying..........convince me..............
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 23, 2024 18:55:12 GMT
🤦♂️🤦♂️ You know so much about film, yet so little-to-nothing about politics. First of all, she will NOT lose the Midwest. She has a slight advantage in MN, and MI/WI are very much swing states that could go either way. So is PA. ALL of them she has a shot at winning. Vance doesn't "lock up" SHIT. Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin are NOT gonna be more likely to vote for Trump cuz he picked that bozo. If anything, the OPPOSITE. MN and MI especially have a strong PRO-CHOICE progressive base, and picking a nutjob whose to the RIGHT of Trump on abortion will almost certainly be a net gain for the Dems, NOT for Trump. History will prove (and by history, I mean after the VP debate if not BEFORE) that picking Vance will either HURT Trump or have zero impact whatsoever. Thanks for the compliment, in bold - that 30 days I was gone were fucking brutal to read people "discuss acting" - good to have me back, ammirite? ![:grouphug:](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/H7iGS0eK7Bua5qxzMOco.gif) ......... we only have ~100 days to go so we'll find out soon enough.......I will say this though: I certainly can see how YOU " could" be right ^, but I just disagree - the Midwest males are going to go Tangerine Beardo imo and by A LOT that will settle this race.......... BUT regardless basically if people are gonna reply to MY POV instead of just giving theirs - when I didn't seek you out - in the future - just come along with a poll to back stuff up.........because right now Kamala IS clearly behind in PA, MI, WI........in any poll That's fair, right? All I'm saying..........convince me.............. Any current poll of Harris v Trump in the swing states is 100% fucking WORTHLESS, as she has only been the presumptive nominee for less than 48 hours, so those polls (whether accurate or not) are obviously BIDEN NUMBERS. Cannot stress how OBVIOUS this is. Also, in a lot (if not most)of those polls, Biden was down within the margin of error (5 or less) in The Blue Wall (PA/MI/WI). So if after that disastrous debate and the post-debate senile & incoherent interviews, Biden was only down 4 or 5 in a lot of those polls, that is VERY encouraging news for Harris. And scumbag incel white males aren't enough to win the Midwest. They were certainly not what put Trump over in 2016. It was a series of avoidable and pathetic mistakes by Hillary's campaign that Biden did not repeat in 2020 and I don't expect Harris to do them either this year.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 23, 2024 19:19:58 GMT
We are so fucking back. ![](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97a8eada67a8646027e991cc028a5b0f56283d2f8fc07e0b2b419d941fa8c125.jpg) I guarantee you the guy has like a Gumpian 75 IQ, just an idiot and I don't know why this is hard for 45% of the country to wrap their heads around. I have center right political views (by MAR standards I'm basically Barry Goldwater) but this was apparent to me from the beginning so I was never going to be on board with him having any kind of power to make important decisions.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 23, 2024 19:39:06 GMT
Welp, that's a wrap. Kamala winning now. JD NoChance just blew it by what he just said. I'll try to find the clip on twitter. He crossed the line. Trump lost the minute Biden dropped out.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 23, 2024 19:48:44 GMT
someone needs to help me understand how pulling Kelly out of the senate is good for dems. They're already losing at least a couple seats, they need every vote they can get. Picking a governor like Shapiro would be lower stakes, and Shapiro is a phenomenal speaker & campaigner in a must-win state.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 23, 2024 19:53:15 GMT
Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin are NOT gonna be more likely to vote for Trump cuz he picked that bozo. If anything, the OPPOSITE. MN and MI especially have a strong PRO-CHOICE progressive base, and picking a nutjob who's to the RIGHT of Trump on abortion will almost certainly be a net gain for the Dems, NOT for Trump.this can't be said enough. The midterms confirmed that MI doesn't want anything to do with GOP extremism on social issues
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 23, 2024 20:08:07 GMT
someone needs to help me understand how pulling Kelly out of the senate is good for dems. They're already losing at least a couple seats, they need every vote they can get. Picking a governor like Shapiro would be lower stakes, and Shapiro is a phenomenal speaker & campaigner in a must-win state. The Gov of AZ gets to appoint a replacement so can easily keep a dem in the seat
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 20:09:33 GMT
Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin are NOT gonna be more likely to vote for Trump cuz he picked that bozo. If anything, the OPPOSITE. MN and MI especially have a strong PRO-CHOICE progressive base, and picking a nutjob who's to the RIGHT of Trump on abortion will almost certainly be a net gain for the Dems, NOT for Trump.this can't be said enough. The midterms confirmed that MI doesn't want anything to do with GOP extremism on social issues People are not feeling project 2025. Only a small select few want to go backwards. F that.
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 20:15:03 GMT
Twitter found JD's old blog from 2005 under his other name.
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2024 21:13:12 GMT
Republicans just filed impeachment papers against Kamala. 🤣
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 23, 2024 22:06:38 GMT
One thing I've been thinking about lately is how low of a ceiling Trump has as a candidate. In both 2016 and 2020, he had less than 47% of the vote - Romney in 2012 beat that. He won 2016 by winning the Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania on razor-thin margins against Hillary, a candidate who herself was also wholly unlikable and had a ton of baggage across decades of national political attention. Low inspiration and lower turnout favors the Republicans, and that was way more likely to happen with Biden at the top of the ticket.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 23, 2024 22:37:49 GMT
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