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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 14:14:58 GMT
Kelsey Mitchell, the actual most efficient Guard on the Indiana Fever.
Yes ^, but not an MVP candidate like Clark is (2nd? 3rd? 4th? whatever) - Mitchell is so efficient because she can make her layups on passes she gets from Caitlin Clark ........get it? .........Reese had a Kelsey Mitchell of her own but HER's didn't want to play with her in 2024........ because Reese is a problematc pro player (not college) - Angel Reese and Kamilla Cardoso do not pass - at all - out from the post because they are rebounding bots ................love Marina Mabrey............talk about her all the time in this thread
Chennedy Carter is a problematic player for Chicago too ..........but unlike Angel Reese she can create offense, score, make a layup..........get it?
You really don't understand anything about betting do you Clark was 3rd in the MVP betting odds before she even played a single WNBA game. It was a fait accompli.As long as she had a decent season ( which she has) she was always going to remain in those odds or near enough. Her MVP odds are based on popularity, not merit. There are at least 7 or 8 players, who are having statistically more efficient seasons than her that are behind her in the odds, because they aren't as popular as her. Now that's what you call DEI Clark is not a serious MVP candidate. Her popularity got her high in the odds and kept her there ahead of more deserving players. And her fans and media boosters wanted to push it after decent run of games, but thankfully, I don't think it's really being taken seriously. She is a serious candidate for Rookie Of The Year, and rightfully so, not just due to popularity.
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 25, 2024 14:20:39 GMT
Clark’s turnovers are a non-issue in this race. This is like Brett Favre dominating every passing stat in the NFL including interceptions
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 18:20:27 GMT
Rookie Of The Year watch for Angel Reese. Her team may suck, but she's making history with every game she plays. 3rd straight game with 20+ rebounds. Only player in WNBA history to do so. Also ties the Rookie Double-Double record set by Tina Charles at 22 for the season.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2024 19:03:55 GMT
People are gonna see what they want with DEI Reese - :
* 11 points, 1 assist - only 13 points generated
* 25% shooting layups (4-16)
* ANOTHER loss with the person she was guarding scoring - or at least she was responsble for
* The THIRD best player today on her shitty team
* A LOT of rebounds whch s good
Fun Game though.....didn't see the frst half........life is too short tbh
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 19:20:12 GMT
People are gonna see what they want with DEI Reese - :
When in doubt, we can always rely on you to fall back on on the racism. You just can't help yourself What a charmer. We all know what DEI means when you attach it to Reese. It's about as subtle as you calling Spike Lee a hoodrat.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 19:26:56 GMT
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Post by sirchuck23 on Aug 25, 2024 19:51:54 GMT
Exciting finish to a tough, physical game. Angel and Kamilla played as well as you can defensively on Wilson. Rough shooting game for Wilson, but like the best player in the league that she is, she hit the most important bucket. Tough win for the Aces.
Tough couple of games for the Sky where they are right there with two championship contending teams but just couldn't execute in the closing stretch. It's good growing pains for this young team with a rookie head coach. Reese is one of the greatest rebounders I've ever seen, male or female, her motor is insane that she rebounds like that and expends so much effort on the defensive end. As I said before this is the FLOOR for her, the worst she's ever going to be. I would love to see her work with Hakeem Olajuwon or Tim Duncan in the summer. Work on her post moves and footwork while working in the paint as well as expanding her shot. She has so much potential to be a special player in the W but even as a big fan of hers, she has work to do on her offensive scoring move skillset. Great thing for her is that she is extremely competitive and wants to be great. It'll be cool to see how her game grows after a full off-season to work on it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 19:57:44 GMT
Exciting finish to a tough, physical game. Angel and Kamilla played as well as you can defensively on Wilson. Rough shooting game for Wilson, but like the best player in the league that she is, she hit the most important bucket. Tough win for the Aces. Tough couple of games for the Sky where they are right there with two championship contending teams but just couldn't execute in the closing stretch. It's good growing pains for this young team with a rookie head coach. Reese is one of the greatest rebounders I've ever seen, male or female, her motor is insane that she rebounds like that and expends so much effort on the defensive end. As I said before this is the FLOOR for her, the worst she's ever going to be. I would love to see her work with Hakeem Olajuwon or Tim Duncan in the summer. Work on her post moves and footwork while working in the paint as well as expanding her shot. She has so much potential to be a special player in the W but even as a big fan of hers, she has work to do on her offensive scoring move skillset. Great thing for her is that she is extremely competitive and wants to be great. It'll be cool to see how her game grows after a full off-season to work on it. Well said man. If Reese really puts in the work in the off-season on the offensive side of her game, I think her ceiling is as high as A'ja Wilson. Potentially higher, as she's already a better rebounder than Wilson (hell, she may be a better rebounder than anyone ever). Olajuwan and Duncan are good shouts for her to work with to improve the aspects of her game she needs to. She does that, I think she can be a legit MVP contender in the next 3 seasons. Love that the NBA Twitter Account are showing respect to her achievements.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Aug 25, 2024 20:06:50 GMT
Exciting finish to a tough, physical game. Angel and Kamilla played as well as you can defensively on Wilson. Rough shooting game for Wilson, but like the best player in the league that she is, she hit the most important bucket. Tough win for the Aces. Tough couple of games for the Sky where they are right there with two championship contending teams but just couldn't execute in the closing stretch. It's good growing pains for this young team with a rookie head coach. Reese is one of the greatest rebounders I've ever seen, male or female, her motor is insane that she rebounds like that and expends so much effort on the defensive end. As I said before this is the FLOOR for her, the worst she's ever going to be. I would love to see her work with Hakeem Olajuwon or Tim Duncan in the summer. Work on her post moves and footwork while working in the paint as well as expanding her shot. She has so much potential to be a special player in the W but even as a big fan of hers, she has work to do on her offensive scoring move skillset. Great thing for her is that she is extremely competitive and wants to be great. It'll be cool to see how her game grows after a full off-season to work on it. Well said man. If Reese really puts in the work in the off-season on the offensive side of her game, I think her ceiling is as high as A'ja Wilson. Potentially higher, as she's already a better rebounder than Wilson (hell, she may be a better rebounder than anyone ever). Olajuwan and Duncan are good shouts for her to work with to improve the aspects of her game she needs to. She does that, I think she can be a legit MVP contender in the next 3 seasons. For sure, and technically this is a rebuilding year for the Sky. They're going to do a major overhaul of their roster this off-season. I'm sure they'll bring in some shooters and better guard play to increase the spacing on the floor and give more space for Cardoso and Reese to operate in the paint/midrange next season.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 20:12:36 GMT
Well said man. If Reese really puts in the work in the off-season on the offensive side of her game, I think her ceiling is as high as A'ja Wilson. Potentially higher, as she's already a better rebounder than Wilson (hell, she may be a better rebounder than anyone ever). Olajuwan and Duncan are good shouts for her to work with to improve the aspects of her game she needs to. She does that, I think she can be a legit MVP contender in the next 3 seasons. For sure, and technically this is a rebuilding year for the Sky. They're going to do a major overhaul of their roster this off-season. I'm sure they'll bring in some shooters and better guard play to increase the spacing on the floor and give more space for Cardoso and Reese to operate in the paint/midrange next season. Yeah, it's a shame Marina Mabrey asked the Sky for a trade at a crucial part of the season, as she was their only consistent 3 point threat. It's hard to compete as a team in the league without a specialist distance shooter. I know they got in Rachel Banham, but she's not a starter and I don't believe she's the long-term solution to that. But it should be interesting to see who they get on the roster next season, and also what rookies they go for in the draft. As for Reese, I think the hate she receives is really going to intensify over the next week or two, as at her current pace, she's going to break the all- time WNBA season rebounding record in about 3 games. Nobody in their wildest dreams expected the 7th draft pick Rookie to have this kind of generational impact, and it's sort of spoiling what was expected to be a processional coronation for CC, who was the chosen one. There was only supposed to be one generational rookie. Fascinating stuff.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 20:31:32 GMT
Interesting....all those rebounds from Angel Reese really make a major difference to her team's points total.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2024 20:54:36 GMT
^ This is basically her OWN 14 points check her point totals........Reese never passes out of the post or else her assists would be higher instead of so low This is also why they don't have a Marina Mabrey (see my post on her above) it's not "a shame" that she got traded - it was inevtable because of how Reese & Cardoso play atm ....... i i
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 21:16:37 GMT
Yeah, you don't get to do that DEI Reese racist shit and drop back in the convo 2 hours later like nothing happened Fix up. The North Never Forgets.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2024 21:44:53 GMT
Yeah, you don't get to do that DEI Reese racist shit and drop back in the convo 2 hours later like nothing happened It's not my fault you misinterpreted the stat DEI isn't a racist term.........you calling me racist means nothing to me....... Enjoy the rest of your day
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 21:48:28 GMT
I'm calling you racist because you are one. You were banned for a month from MAR for y'know....racism.
If you don't want to be called out on it, or you want people to believe you've seen the light and changed your ways or whatever, then stop making it so easy for the label to stick. This is not the Caitlin Clark thread, where you can just say any old shit because you are just talking to yourself most of the time. On this thread, you'll be called out on your bullshit.
I said what I said. DEI Reese is just an unsubtle dogwhistle. Same as Hoodrat Spike Lee.
Do better.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 25, 2024 22:06:35 GMT
Clark’s turnovers are a non-issue in this race. This is like Brett Favre dominating every passing stat in the NFL including interceptions She's basically like Kobe or Lebron in this way - they were turnover machnes - Lebron is the all-time turnover leader ffs Here's a great vid on it. i said this 2 months ago tbh........."looking at the wrong stuff" as he says in the vid It's also her crazy pace of play negates some the turnovers - not all but some......most tbh
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 25, 2024 22:15:44 GMT
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 25, 2024 22:19:47 GMT
This is not the Caitlin Clark thread, where you can just say any old shit because you are just talking to yourself most of the time. On this thread, you'll be called out on your bullshit. Lmfao what would this thread be without the presence of “the malcontents”?
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 26, 2024 2:26:14 GMT
Holy Shit....the 2nd (or 3rd) greatest mens point guard of all time ( depending on where you rank Magic Johnson and Steph Curry) Isiah Thomas gives a shout out to Angel Reese for her latest record breaking feats . Love how the all-time greats who actually know basketball intricately are in awe of what Reese is doing and fully understand she's a generational talent, while bloated talking heads like Dan Patrick and Caitlin Clark Stan 2647 on Twitter are acting like she's a scrub doing nothing special, because she's fucking up the preordained CC coronation .
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 26, 2024 5:39:45 GMT
Post by pupdurcs on 2 hours ago Holy Shit....the 2nd (or 3rd) greatest mens point guard of all time ( depending on where you rank Magic Johnson and Steph Curry) Isiah Thomas gives a shout out to Angel Reese for her latest record breaking featsSteve Nash? John Stockton? Oscar Robertson if you consider Oscar a PG? The Reese reboundng record is amazng but again, it is one attribute that doesn't contribute POINTS if you don't shoot better.........no one says it's "nothing" though, that's silly.....if anybody were to say that........ Speaking of Magic, Isiah and Oscar:.
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 26, 2024 7:22:16 GMT
Reese (who averages 13.6 points per game over a season) is about 6 points away from scoring 400 points for the season. She has the 2nd highest points total of all Rookies this season behind Clark. Reese is going to break the all-time WNBA season double-double record because she can and does score consistently. It's a wild exaggeration, verging on a made-up myth now that Reese doesn't "contribute points". She contributes a lot of points. She has a higher average points total this season than Alyssa Thomas (11.2 per game average), who finished 2nd in 2023's MVP race. Reese is only slightly behind Indiana Fever's Aliyah Boston (13.9 per game average) who is considered one of the Fever's best scoring threats.
Reese is a solid, consistent scorer. But it's clearly fucking obvious that if she was more efficient offensively, she'd go from a good scorer, to probably top 10 in the league (right now she's about 27 out of 100) in scoring. Her finishing is leaving a lot of points on the table. The upside in her game is ridiculous. No one ever claimed she was a generational scorer (like Clark, whom averages only 4 points more per game than Reese), but doing some work in the off-season might really make her one of the best scorers in the league, instead of merely a good one.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 26, 2024 8:08:21 GMT
"No one ever claimed she was a generational scorer (like Clark, whom averages only 4 points more per game than Reese)"
4+ PPG is actually A LOT in this shitty league though where no one has ever even averaged 26 PPG iirc and team point totals are often in the 80s ........it's not lke the NBA - there are maybe 15+ people in scoring between Clark and Reese ......Reese would be RotY in any OTHER year though ......but 100+ points behind is a lot
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 26, 2024 11:15:56 GMT
Professional Basketball Player and former WNBA Player Imani McGee Stafford gives a very fair and measured assessment of why she would pick Angel Reese as Rookie Of The Year over Caitlin Clark:
Clift Notes:
* Stafford says Reese proved her wrong, because she did not think her game would translate to the WNBA.
* She chooses Reese over Clark because of consistency. Says it's incredibly hard to be as consistent as Reese has been over the whole season.
*Says Reese always has to take the hardest defensive possession. Says Reese always has the guard the best players on the opposite team in most games.
* Stafford thinks Clark is definitely more fun to watch than Reese. Thinks Clark gives you more to look at.
* Stafford says she can't give Rookie Of The Year to somebody who broke the single season turnover record ( Clark).
Again, good to hear how some of the Pro Ballers are actually assessing this race, as opposed to the more biased fans ( on both sides) and talking heads.
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Post by quetee on Aug 26, 2024 16:58:58 GMT
At this point, this whole thing is nothing more than fake outrage. Nobody gives a f*ck if you think Reese is a DEI. She has definitely earned it....mofo.. she's playing on a national level and you are ????? That's what I thought.... nothing...
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 26, 2024 17:06:18 GMT
Jesus Christ....Imani McGee-Stafford has been sharing some of the DM's she's been receiving for having the audacity to say she thinks Angel Reese should win Rookie Of The Year over Caitlin Clark, and some them are disgusting ( & racist).
Clark is a great talent and seems like a decent person, but her Stan-Base (not all of them, but far too many) are fucking insane and will ruin the discourse around Women's basketball if something isn't done to curb these morons soon.
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