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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 23, 2024 20:53:44 GMT
While there were some awful snubs (Leo, KotFM for Script, Julianne Moore, MAY DECEMBER for BP, SPIDERVERSE for Score/Visual Effects), I can honestly say that the biggest heartbreak of the morning was the marvelous SUZUME (my #1 animated film of the year) not getting into animation. Just blasphemous! 😡 I don't need to see ELEMENTAL to know SUZUME deserved its spot. Very happy about the expected BOY AND THE HERON and SPIDERVERSE noms, they were both terrific and worthy, but SUZUME profoundly moved me more than those 2 combined. Actually, it moved me deeper than any anime film since WHEN MARNIE WAS THERE (my #1 favorite animated film of all-time).
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 23, 2024 20:58:59 GMT
After SUZUME, honestly the 2nd biggest heartbreak of the morning isn't one of the other shitty snubs I mentioned: IT'S THE FACT THAT I HAVE TO WATCH FUCKING "NYAD" NOW!! UGH!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Jodie is one of my absolute favorite actresses, but I was rooting against her just to save myself this pain. But I dislike Bening more than any other widely respected & acclaimed actress (except maybe Julia Roberts), and currently 30 minutes into this blatantly obvious piece of Oscarbait, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to stick with my original thought that Ferrera is NOT this year's worst Oscar nomination.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 23, 2024 21:08:35 GMT
Everyone piling on poor America, but she isn't even the worst one in her own category. America's problem is she isn't good, but Danielle Brooks is straight-up bad. Her performance reminds me of that scene in Girl Interrupted when Winona Ryder is racist in the bathtub. It's the same thing, except one is meant to be taken seriously and one is being an asshole. I leave it up to you to decide which is which.
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Post by franklin on Jan 23, 2024 21:11:12 GMT
DiCaprio's performance as Burkhart is one of his best. If a character actor like Micheal Shannon did it, he would have been nominated. The Academy's choice will age so badly.
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Post by sophiefox on Jan 23, 2024 22:01:07 GMT
@ all America Ferrera & Danielle Brooks haters seriously, calm down.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 24, 2024 0:58:40 GMT
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 24, 2024 4:50:16 GMT
Been some weird discourse about Robbie missing… Gerwig I can wrap my head around but this…
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2024 4:59:45 GMT
I hope Twitter and Tiktok get banned.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Jan 24, 2024 5:08:29 GMT
The meltdown surrounding the Greta/Margot snub has to be a new low point of social media. The Hollywood Reporter and its embarrasing article, Mary McNamara had a metal breakdown while writing her "piece" and that tweet with the Taylor Swift verse is particularly stupid... What's the point? (I like her music but that's the reason I never interect with swifties)
Is the kind of people who watch 2 movies a year and say Greta was "snubbed". They alone are diminishing what other women within their respective categories acomplished and apparently America Ferrera didn't happen and if Ken made it this far it's because he got all the best moments in the movie.... And for Gosling, was a tasteless statement that was, if he's gonna say that, he should also say who would he replace them with.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 24, 2024 7:12:43 GMT
Films with most Oscar nominations: All About Eve (1950)- 14 Titanic (1997)- 14 La La Land (2016)- 14 The Shape of Water (2017)- 13 Oppenheimer (2023)- 13 If only there were still two sound categories, Oppenheimer would've tied the record.
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Post by Pavan on Jan 24, 2024 7:53:08 GMT
Films with most Oscar nominations: All About Eve (1950)- 14 Titanic (1997)- 14 La La Land (2016)- 14 The Shape of Water (2017)- 13 Oppenheimer (2023)- 13 If only there were still two sound categories, Oppenheimer would've tied the record. Or the Vfx branch nominating the film would've done that too.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 24, 2024 15:18:33 GMT
Everyone piling on poor America, but she isn't even the worst one in her own category. America's problem is she isn't good, but Danielle Brooks is straight-up bad. Her performance reminds me of that scene in Girl Interrupted when Winona Ryder is racist in the bathtub. It's the same thing, except one is meant to be taken seriously and one is being an asshole. I leave it up to you to decide which is which. I definitely understand thinking she's a bit much in the beginning - like, still operating as if she's on stage and not modulating for film - but you still thought she was bad in the scene at the prison? The scene at the table where Celie finally finds her agency? I take it you liked Fantasia's and Henson's performances?
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2024 17:09:47 GMT
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Post by Archie on Jan 24, 2024 17:54:51 GMT
Yeah, I hate this movie now.
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Post by SZilla on Jan 24, 2024 17:59:54 GMT
#HillaryBarbie?!?! If only the Oscar voters could Pokemon Go to the polls...
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Post by ibbi on Jan 24, 2024 18:03:17 GMT
Everyone piling on poor America, but she isn't even the worst one in her own category. America's problem is she isn't good, but Danielle Brooks is straight-up bad. Her performance reminds me of that scene in Girl Interrupted when Winona Ryder is racist in the bathtub. It's the same thing, except one is meant to be taken seriously and one is being an asshole. I leave it up to you to decide which is which. I definitely understand thinking she's a bit much in the beginning - like, still operating as if she's on stage and not modulating for film - but you still thought she was bad in the scene at the prison? The scene at the table where Celie finally finds her agency? I take it you liked Fantasia's and Henson's performances? Honestly, when I was watching those scenes I was just thinking how shit, threatless, weightless, fake they all were compared to their infinitely better equivalents in the Spielberg movie. I don't even like that movie, but it made dramatic scenes in this one look like an episode of some cheap network TV show. I liked Fantasia fine, but it was one of those ridiculous Hollywood things where they keep going on about how ugly she was and she's clearly not remotely ugly. It worked in the original film, but not here (no offence to EGOT). Henson was good, and performance-wise, mayyyyyybe the one cast improvement over the original. If they were going to give someone in this movie that nod, I wish it would have been her.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 24, 2024 18:11:33 GMT
ibbi - I definitely agree that this film is nothing more than a mere shadow of its predecessor, but... I think it's worth watching solely for Fantasia's beautiful singing. Seriously, she is amazing.
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Post by Pavan on Jan 24, 2024 18:45:49 GMT
This social media backlash could push some voters to vote for Barbie resulting in a screenplay win and even best picture. Feels farfetched but not impossible.
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Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2024 19:15:30 GMT
This social media backlash could push some voters to vote for Barbie resulting in a screenplay win and even best picture. Feels farfetched but not impossible. I don't see Picture happening, but considering how stacked Adapted Screenplay is and considering Barbie had winner heat on it when it was in Original, it could be a margin of a few votes that makes the difference, and it's extremely possible that it wins there (I'm currently predicting it).
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Post by Nikan on Jan 24, 2024 20:33:10 GMT
Eeew And the note was cute, Ryan... "there is no Ken without Barbie" is ironically what your movie itself concludes against though
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Post by finniussnrub on Jan 24, 2024 20:38:20 GMT
This social media backlash could push some voters to vote for Barbie resulting in a screenplay win and even best picture. Feels farfetched but not impossible. When has this actually happened though? MAYBE Moonlight winning over La La Land, and that's a big maybe, as frequently frontrunners can also lose momentum if they peak too early as was the case with La La Land.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 25, 2024 2:39:19 GMT
The meltdown surrounding the Greta/Margot snub has to be a new low point of social media. The Hollywood Reporter and its embarrasing article, Mary McNamara had a metal breakdown while writing her "piece" and that tweet with the Taylor Swift verse is particularly stupid... What's the point? (I like her music but that's the reason I never interect with swifties)
Is the kind of people who watch 2 movies a year and say Greta was "snubbed". They alone are diminishing what other women within their respective categories acomplished and apparently America Ferrera didn't happen and if Ken made it this far it's because he got all the best moments in the movie.... And for Gosling, was a tasteless statement that was, if he's gonna say that, he should also say who would he replace them with.
No disagreement / 100% correct on the bold. I look at it like this:
Barbie got 8 Oscar nominations, including for Picture, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, and Adapted Screenplay. Both Robbie and Gerwig received Oscar nominations for the film. Most films, even the good ones, don't get nominated for any Oscar.
Gerwig missing for Best Director was no surprise. The director's branch prefers high brow, artsy productions. Barbie is a crowd-pleasing, feel-good commercial film. It doesn't aim to offend or make people uncomfortable. For most sane people, that's a great thing. But for others, it is deemed as "safe" and "conventional".
Robbie was good in Barbie. There's nothing wrong with her performance. But Ferrera's Barbie speech and Gosling's performance were really the most memorable parts of the film. Robbie played more of the "straight person". She's the normal one in a crazy society. Think Mark Wahlberg in The Fighter. Basically Huller replaced her -- which is the more showy performance. Also, there's a scene in Barbie where the film acknowledges a casting error with Robbie's character.
And yes, nobody is talking about Ferrera getting in, and pretending that Gerwig and Robbie received zero nominations.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 25, 2024 2:50:43 GMT
Oh, Sir Ian McKellen is no longer the only out gay actor nominated for playing a gay character (for Gods and Monsters) - Colman Domingo and Jodie Foster join him for Rustin and Nyad, respectively.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 25, 2024 2:59:10 GMT
Oh, Sir Ian McKellen is no longer the only out gay actor nominated for playing a gay character (for Gods and Monsters) - Colman Domingo and Jodie Foster join him for Rustin and Nyad, respectively. Also Stephanie Hsu is queer and was nominated last year playing a lesbian.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 25, 2024 3:02:39 GMT
Oh, Sir Ian McKellen is no longer the only out gay actor nominated for playing a gay character (for Gods and Monsters) - Colman Domingo and Jodie Foster join him for Rustin and Nyad, respectively. Does bi count because I'm pretty sure that many nominees are openly bi. Lady Gaga for example.
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