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Post by Brother Fease on Jul 28, 2022 22:53:44 GMT
Raise your hand if you want to see a 2 hour and 46 minute film about Marilyn Monroe?
Independent Filmmaker Andrew Dominik (The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford) writes and directs this long biopic about the life of Norma Jeane aka Marilyn Monroe. Ana de Armas stars as Monroe. The cast includes Bobby Cannavale, Adrien Brody, Julianne Nicholson, Scoot McNairy and Toby Huss.
The film is based on a book by Joyce Carol Oates. Brad Pitt and Dede Gardner produced the motion picture. Netflix will release the film on their streaming platform on September 23rd. It'll be rated NC-17.
Blonde marks the 14th film about the most recognizable blonde in the world. 2011's My Week With Marilyn was the last time we saw an Oscar-nominated film about her. That one went on to score two Oscar nominations for Michelle Williams and Kenneth Branagh.
What do you think the Oscar potential for Blonde?
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Post by DanQuixote on Jul 28, 2022 23:01:51 GMT
Nothing. I think it’ll be too weird / explicit for the Academy.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 28, 2022 23:19:49 GMT
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 28, 2022 23:27:55 GMT
I don't see it happening. The accent thing is too odd.
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Post by flasuss on Jul 29, 2022 14:21:24 GMT
I could see Armas being that nominee that misses all the precursors, but ends up being nominated anyway on the strength of #1 votes.
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Post by speeders on Jul 29, 2022 14:23:19 GMT
I'm in the absolute minority but I'm still predicting De Armas at the moment. While the movie looks to have some amazing techs, I don't really see it getting nominated for anything else.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 14:40:52 GMT
I definitely think it's going to be a player for techs like Costumes, Production Design, maybe Cinematography and even Editing isn't outside the realm of possibility. This is a period piece, after all, and Netflix's plate isn't very full this year. They are going to gun hard for nominations, even if the win equity is low.
Ana de Armas is going to need the critics behind her. I don't think the accent is that much of a roadblock for her. But it is an extremely dense field for Best Actress this year.
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Post by finniussnrub on Jul 29, 2022 14:56:24 GMT
No reason to believe it can't do some tech damage, but minor player if any player at all.
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 29, 2022 17:26:40 GMT
No latina was ever awarded with an Academy Award in Leading Cathegory. What a latina is? Usually someone who was born in Latinoamerica or in US with latinoamerican heritage.- French, french canadian, haitians, US sefaradies, italians, italoamericans and specially Spaniards are excluded
So only 4 actresses were nominated for an Oscar in a leading role: Fernanda Montenegro, Salma Hayek, Catalina Sandino Moreno and Yalitza Aparicio.-
Despite of having most of her career in Spain, country of which Ana de Armas emigrated after filming her first movie Una Rosa de Francia. Clearly she is cuban. And could be the first latinoamerican of winning an oscar. And winning for her portray of Marylin Monroe, remind the time that Jose Ferrer won Oscar for portraying French Aristocrats guys.
And I'm totally in favor of that.-
If Vivien Leigh won an Oscar for portraying a southern belle, if Gwynneth Paltrow won for portraying an English Elizabethean Rose, why not De Armas cold win for portraying iconic Monroe?
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Post by stabcaesar on Jul 29, 2022 17:30:23 GMT
De Armas looks good, but I find the accent very distracting. The rest of the film looks good too so I think it definitely has a very good shot in makeup and costume etc.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 17:37:13 GMT
I gotta say, I am a little surprised people seem down on the film's overall nomination chances. Yes, I know it's apparently very explicit and all, but it's Netflix, and it's a film at least tangentially about the industry (even if it's critical of it). Netflix can't be putting all their eggs in the Bardo basket, so what else do they have this year?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 29, 2022 18:00:29 GMT
I can't wait to see it but it looks too "weird" for AMPAS, especially after Spencer bombed so hard with the industry. Plus it's Dominik who's never had much success with industry awards. I think nominations for cinematography/makeup/costumes are possible but all those fields are going to be insanely crowded. Lead actress is a doozy too.
I'm betting against it until we see some reviews.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 29, 2022 18:02:40 GMT
I gotta say, I am a little surprised people seem down on the film's overall nomination chances. Yes, I know it's apparently very explicit and all, but it's Netflix, and it's a film at least tangentially about the industry (even if it's critical of it). Netflix can't be putting all their eggs in the Bardo basket, so what else do they have this year?don't they have Rustin coming out this year?
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 18:11:10 GMT
I gotta say, I am a little surprised people seem down on the film's overall nomination chances. Yes, I know it's apparently very explicit and all, but it's Netflix, and it's a film at least tangentially about the industry (even if it's critical of it). Netflix can't be putting all their eggs in the Bardo basket, so what else do they have this year?don't they have Rustin coming out this year? Rumor has it it's getting the bump to 2023.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jul 29, 2022 21:56:56 GMT
From my viewpoint, I think Armas, Brody, costume, cinematography, production design and film editing are contenders here. Not sure about picture, director, or screenplay. But I don't see this one tanking. The trailer did remind me of Mank, which was a strong contender in 2021.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 30, 2022 0:02:57 GMT
I gotta say, I am a little surprised people seem down on the film's overall nomination chances. Yes, I know it's apparently very explicit and all, but it's Netflix, and it's a film at least tangentially about the industry (even if it's critical of it). Netflix can't be putting all their eggs in the Bardo basket, so what else do they have this year?White Noise, Knives Out 2, The Good Nurse
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Post by stephen on Jul 30, 2022 1:29:20 GMT
I gotta say, I am a little surprised people seem down on the film's overall nomination chances. Yes, I know it's apparently very explicit and all, but it's Netflix, and it's a film at least tangentially about the industry (even if it's critical of it). Netflix can't be putting all their eggs in the Bardo basket, so what else do they have this year?White Noise, Knives Out 2, The Good Nurse None of which promise to be big tech contenders.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jul 30, 2022 4:22:57 GMT
Depends on how out there the movie is. Ana looks very strong here and could potentially break in. If the movie plays well with critics, who knows it could threaten for BP as well. It's Netflix and it's Marylin Monroe after all which means everyone is watching it. It could stick in their minds enough (dependent of course on how strong it actually is and how not too offensive with that rating) to come strong on the ballet.
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Post by finniussnrub on Jul 30, 2022 12:55:39 GMT
Although it feels like we think about ratings less these days (particularly when just about anything goes with streaming TV shows), but historically keeping NC-17 is kind of a death knell to Oscar chances. Henry & June got a cinematography nod and...that's about it (unless I'm forgetting a Interntional film contender somewhere). Even films that did okay outside of Oscar (Lust, Caution & Shame) got goose egged with the Academy. So something else to consider.
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Post by stephen on Jul 30, 2022 13:21:47 GMT
Although it feels like we think about ratings less these days (particularly when just about anything goes with streaming TV shows), but historically keeping NC-17 is kind of a death knell to Oscar chances. Henry & June got a cinematography nod and...that's about it (unless I'm forgetting a Interntional film contender somewhere). Even films that did okay outside of Oscar (Lust, Caution & Shame) got goose egged with the Academy. So something else to consider. While this is true, I think the fact that it's Netflix kind of undercuts the ratings system somewhat. And Lust, Caution and Shame both had big reasons for not being the Academy's general cup of tea (one being a foreign language film in a relatively stacked year, the other being an alienating film about sex addiction; however, I think if Shame comes out post- 12 Years a Slave, it probably does get over the line somewhere). With that said, it will always amuse me that Focus Features's 2007 docket resulted in a single Oscar nomination: Viggo Mortensen for Eastern Promises, a film that could've easily gone NC-17 without some of those edits. Blonde absolutely has its work cut out for it, but I'm just looking at what's coming out this year and thinking it's got a better shot than a lot of NC-17 films. Primarily because a.) it's Netflix, who have been running-and-gunning hard with their shotgun approach of maximizing nominations across the board (garnering wins is their real problem), b.) it's a flashy period piece about Hollywood focusing on one of the iconic figures in cinema, and c.) the field is thinning for tech categories that favor period pieces (if Killers/Rustin may be going 2023). But Venice will really be what tells the tale.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 30, 2022 13:42:14 GMT
Although it feels like we think about ratings less these days (particularly when just about anything goes with streaming TV shows), but historically keeping NC-17 is kind of a death knell to Oscar chances. Henry & June got a cinematography nod and...that's about it (unless I'm forgetting a Interntional film contender somewhere). Even films that did okay outside of Oscar (Lust, Caution & Shame) got goose egged with the Academy. So something else to consider. Blonde absolutely has its work cut out for it, but I'm just looking at what's coming out this year and thinking it's got a better shot than a lot of NC-17 films. Primarily because a.) it's Netflix, who have been running-and-gunning hard with their shotgun approach of maximizing nominations across the board (garnering wins is their real problem), b.) it's a flashy period piece about Hollywood focusing on one of the iconic figures in cinema, and c.) the field is thinning for tech categories that favor period pieces (if Killers/Rustin may be going 2023). But Venice will really be what tells the tale. On the other hand, it also has its work cut out for becoming Spencer 2.0 but with the added 'benefit' of an NC-17 rating. Too divisive, too weird, too tough to watch (especially at 2.5 hours long). Plus who knows what silly backlash will emerge once it comes out - we already have talk about the movie exploiting Monroe. And it hasn't even come out!
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Post by stephen on Jul 30, 2022 13:50:58 GMT
Blonde absolutely has its work cut out for it, but I'm just looking at what's coming out this year and thinking it's got a better shot than a lot of NC-17 films. Primarily because a.) it's Netflix, who have been running-and-gunning hard with their shotgun approach of maximizing nominations across the board (garnering wins is their real problem), b.) it's a flashy period piece about Hollywood focusing on one of the iconic figures in cinema, and c.) the field is thinning for tech categories that favor period pieces (if Killers/Rustin may be going 2023). But Venice will really be what tells the tale. On the other hand, it also has its work cut out for becoming Spencer 2.0 but with the added 'benefit' of an NC-17 rating. Too divisive, too weird, too tough to watch (especially at 2.5 hours long). Plus who knows what silly backlash will emerge once it comes out - we already have talk about the movie exploiting Monroe. And it hasn't even come out! It could very well be Spencer 2.0, but Neon seemed last year like they had no idea what they were really wanting to put their weight behind (before finally settling on Worst Person in the World), and I think it was only by the grace of Gaga that Stewart got over the line at the end. Netflix has Bardo and Blonde for its big tech players; the other films it has on its docket are more above-the-line threats than anything else. I dunno, maybe I've got blinders on, but I just feel like Netflix has been so good at actually obtaining nominations that while Blonde presents a challenge, if it actually plays well at Venice, there is a conceivable path for it, and its NC-17 rating might actually work to its advantage. (Ratings ain't anything but a number.)
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 30, 2022 14:07:25 GMT
I think Lead Actress if definitely in play and probably a couple of techs.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 30, 2022 14:09:04 GMT
Also, the rating feels kinda meaningless since it’s on Netflix. It would be much more of a detriment if it was a theatrical release.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 6, 2023 16:41:00 GMT
Pre-SAG thoughts on Ana's Oscar chances? Kinda seems like she might make it after all...
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