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Post by stephen on Jan 6, 2023 16:43:24 GMT
Pre-SAG thoughts on Ana's Oscar chances? Kinda seems like she might make it after all... She's playing a real-life icon and even though the film has been excoriated, Ana herself has largely eluded criticism aside from complaints about her accent work. I'm not currently predicting her but if she gets SAG, then that would change. |
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Post by JangoB on Jan 6, 2023 16:47:12 GMT
Pre-SAG thoughts on Ana's Oscar chances? Kinda seems like she might make it after all... She's playing a real-life icon and even though the film has been excoriated, Ana herself has largely eluded criticism aside from complaints about her accent work. I'm not currently predicting her but if she gets SAG, then that would change. I feel that the criticism of the film may actually help her... "The movie is horrible and vile but she rises above it and becomes the only ray of dignity it has, therefore her accomplishment is even more impressive!" - I can imagine voters thinking that way. |
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Post by stephen on Jan 6, 2023 17:05:49 GMT
She's playing a real-life icon and even though the film has been excoriated, Ana herself has largely eluded criticism aside from complaints about her accent work. I'm not currently predicting her but if she gets SAG, then that would change. I feel that the criticism of the film may actually help her... "The movie is horrible and vile but she rises above it and becomes the only ray of dignity it has, therefore her accomplishment is even more impressive!" - I can imagine voters thinking that way. I mean, I think if anyone can watch the also horrible and vile My Week With Marilyn and give Michelle Williams a nomination, there's no excuse not to recognize de Armas. But that's me. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 6, 2023 18:00:40 GMT
Armas is still in the game. She needs a SAG or BAFTA to stay in the game. Makeup looks like the only other contender for Blonde.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 6, 2023 18:11:55 GMT
She's playing a real-life icon and even though the film has been excoriated, Ana herself has largely eluded criticism aside from complaints about her accent work. I'm not currently predicting her but if she gets SAG, then that would change. I feel that the criticism of the film may actually help her... "The movie is horrible and vile but she rises above it and becomes the only ray of dignity it has, therefore her accomplishment is even more impressive!" - I can imagine voters thinking that way. There may be some voters that think that way, but I can't imagine it's a large contingency of them. I'd be liable to think if voters like 2 performances, but Actor A is in a movie they hate and Actor B is in a movie they at least like, they'd be more likely to go with Actor B off the halo effect. |
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Post by Joaquim on Jan 6, 2023 18:18:24 GMT
Ana de Armas is getting in
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Post by JangoB on Jan 6, 2023 18:22:56 GMT
I feel that the criticism of the film may actually help her... "The movie is horrible and vile but she rises above it and becomes the only ray of dignity it has, therefore her accomplishment is even more impressive!" - I can imagine voters thinking that way. There may be some voters that think that way, but I can't imagine it's a large contingency of them. I'd be liable to think if voters like 2 performances, but Actor A is in a movie they hate and Actor B is in a movie they at least like, they'd be more likely to go with Actor B off the halo effect. For sure. Then again, if Actor A is playing Marilyn Monroe...  The thing that I'm most curious about is how much will the voters think about the "level of difficulty" factor when considering Ana de Armas. The Monroe mimicry, the accent work, the emotional toughness of the role, some of the things she's asked to do. I can see a good chunk of voters being taken with all of the above. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 6, 2023 18:23:42 GMT
All you have to do is look at Penelope Cruz ffs - who completely missed GG, SAG, BAFTA (not even on the shortlist iirc!), CC and she got the Oscar nod - not exactly the same thing - she won Volpi and was a previous Oscar winner among other things....... but still if you're going by the big 4 precursors she had zip..... de Armas has a shot even without another precursor.......maybe not a a shot I'd bet on myself ......but you never know ....  |
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 6, 2023 18:26:45 GMT
All you have to do is look at Penelope Cruz ffs - who completely missed GG, SAG, BAFTA (not even on the shortlist iirc!), CC and she got the Oscar nod - not exactly the same thing - she won Volpi and was a previous Oscar winner among other things....... but still if you're going by the big 4 precursors she had zip..... de Armas has a shot even without another precursor.......maybe not a a shot I'd bet on myself ......but you never know .... Cruz won LA and NSFC awards for Best Actress. Armas has won nothing. On top of that, Parallel Mothers was a much better received film. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 6, 2023 18:33:49 GMT
All you have to do is look at Penelope Cruz ffs - who completely missed GG, SAG, BAFTA (not even on the shortlist iirc!), CC and she got the Oscar nod - not exactly the same thing - she won Volpi and was a previous Oscar winner among other things....... but still if you're going by the big 4 precursors she had zip..... de Armas has a shot even without another precursor.......maybe not a a shot I'd bet on myself ......but you never know .... Cruz won LA and NSFC awards for Best Actress. Armas has won nothing. On top of that, Parallel Mothers was a much better received film. That isn't my point at all - she also got nominated for a Cesar too - I'm just saying of the big 4 precursors Cruz got 0 - and de Armas is already ahead of her - I didn't say she was getting nominated, I said she has a shot even without BAFTA or SAG ......that's my story, I'm sticking to it - you disagree ok, but don't change what I said |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 6, 2023 18:42:38 GMT
I’m currently predicting Ana de Armas to get in for Actress and nothing else for the film.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 6, 2023 18:48:43 GMT
I'd be shocked if she gets in. Blonde is widely hated, it's almost 3 hours long, the backlash has been extreme and Dominick doubling down made it all worse, and it presents an old-fashioned conception of Marilyn that robs her of agency, robs her of everything contemporary viewers love about her acting, and plays like tabloid torture porn for the majority of its runtime. With actress being as full as it is, I say de Armas gets passed over. I think even Lawrence has a better shot.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 6, 2023 19:09:17 GMT
Cruz had won the Volpi plus two of the trifecta but De Armas has the advantage of acting in English and playing an icon. I don’t think she’ll get SAG but she remains a threat till the end.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 6, 2023 20:11:52 GMT
Cruz won LA and NSFC awards for Best Actress. Armas has won nothing. On top of that, Parallel Mothers was a much better received film. That isn't my point at all - she also got nominated for a Cesar too - I'm just saying of the big 4 precursors Cruz got 0 - and de Armas is already ahead of her - I didn't say she was getting nominated, I said she has a shot even without BAFTA or SAG ......that's my story, I'm sticking to it - you disagree ok, but don't change what I saidArmas getting the Globe nomination DOES help her chances. Just look at the last couple of years:
GLOBE ACTRESS DRAMA 2021 - 4/5 (No Gaga) 2020 - 5/5
2019 - 5/5 2018 - 3/5 (Colman was under comedy) 2017 - 3/5 (Robbie and Ronan were under comedy)
I do give Armas a better shot than Colman's performance in Empire of Light.
I fully agree Armas is in the mix.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 6, 2023 21:29:19 GMT
Of course, she's in the mix - so is everyone - until the nominations are announced.
But the odds are against her. It's just very difficult for someone in her position, who doesn't have the name recognition, in a mediocre film, and wasn't a critics' darling to get in, especially against better known actresses.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 6, 2023 22:48:51 GMT
She's probably 6th at this point tbh.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 7, 2023 2:30:31 GMT
Of course, she's in the mix - so is everyone - until the nominations are announced. But the odds are against her. It's just very difficult for someone in her position, who doesn't have the name recognition, in a mediocre film, and wasn't a critics' darling to get in, especially against better known actresses. How does she not have name recognition? |
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