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Post by Joaquim on Jul 18, 2017 1:59:48 GMT
This is winning Best Picture/Director. I know, it's still early, but as of right now, Dunkirk is the best reviewed film of 2017. You'd better not be the new merc.
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Jul 18, 2017 2:04:54 GMT
This is winning Best Picture/Director. I know, it's still early, but as of right now, Dunkirk is the best reviewed film of 2017. You'd better not be the new merc. What do you think I'm trying to do?
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 18, 2017 2:05:12 GMT
Up to 98% now and the troll from CompuServe is still the only rotten review.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 18, 2017 2:05:27 GMT
You'd better not be the new merc. What do you think I'm trying to do? Die.
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Jul 18, 2017 2:08:24 GMT
What do you think I'm trying to do? Die. I feel like I'm going to die. I'm so fucking sick.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 18, 2017 2:14:51 GMT
I feel like I'm going to die. I'm so fucking sick. You should see a doctor then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 2:36:05 GMT
Okay, so, we'll see.
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Post by Drish on Jul 18, 2017 3:03:34 GMT
Crazy excited now! Friday come fast 😈
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Post by Lubezki on Jul 18, 2017 5:41:21 GMT
RT Consensus: 98% with a 9/10 avg. rating...,surely they could be a bit more enthusiastic, nah?
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Post by morton on Jul 18, 2017 7:19:56 GMT
I'm not feeling The Papers. I feel in order for Spielberg to win again it will have to be an event on the scale of Schindler's List or SPR. I think if something takes over it will be something we barely know about before Toronto. That's a fair assessment, and the reports of the script being middlebrow do make me cautious, but here's the one reason why I'm sticking to it: none of Spielberg's recent output was as timely and politically urgent as The Papers. Streep and Hanks will be going all over town essentially reprising the former's Cecil B. DeMille speech, and that's gonna get them a lot of support, especially with the older crowd that passed on The Revenant and Mad Max in favor of the safer, more traditional option with the hefty subject matter. I can easily see Dunkirk playing like an amalgamation of Miller and AGI's films, with the flash, critical support and early release date of the former plus the pedigree of the latter. In addition to that 2015 precedent, I think we might also see a repeat of this year, with one release dominating the first batch of awards only to see the buzz being snatched by a late comer. The Papers premiering in late December means it will be peaking right around Oscar voting time, much like how Moonlight surged at the last minute. Dunkirk being a July release could result in it losing momentum and being obfuscated by the shiny new politically relevant toy, and as La La Land tells us, that's a huge factor in a preferential ballot system. We'll see. I think you both have good points. When I first heard about The Papers, it immediately became my pick to win Best Picture, but since then I've cooled on it just a bit. On one hand, it might be the best "message" film to vote for to send a message to Trump, but things could still change by that time. Plus, I think it might be more like Bridge of Spies in that there's definitely a niche for it and will get multiple nominations, but I don't know it's going to inspire a lot of passion just going by what JayAgain and someone else said about the screenplay. Someone here also brought up the Spotlight comparison, so I don't know if they would go that direction again because superficially some voters would probably equate the two films even if they're about different things. Plus, I agree with sterlingarcher too in that I can't see Spielberg losing Best Director but winning Best Picture. It just seems incredibly odd to me. I think he wins both or just Best Director again, and that's likely not going to happen this year because Nolan seems very likely to win Best Director now that there's no longer an embargo on the reviews for Dunkirk. I'm not sure if Dunkirk could win Best Picture though. Certainly there's a portion of AMPAS that will love it, and it seems like a good bet for the meat eaters vote, and it's certainly "heavier" and more serious than La La Land was. However, with new membership, and other factors, I don't know if it will have the "importance" to go all the way. There's a few films that could end up being the 12 Years a Slave to Dunkirk's Gravity. The Papers would be a good bet, but again I can see how some things might work against it. Detroit could also be another film that might fit the bill, but like Spielberg, I feel that Kathryn Bigelow would have to win Best Director if Detroit were to win Best Picture. I guess Call Me By Your Name could also win, and that would be a good candidate for something that could win Best Picture but lose director. However, I still think that Moonlight winning last year will hurt its chances of winning this year. If what I've read about mother! is true, it does seem like it could be relevant to today's times, but I think it's probably too out there to win Best Picture. Plus, again I can't see it winning Best Picture, but Aronofsky losing director. Of course, I have to throw in The Death of Stalin. Unfortunately I haven't heard much about it going to any of the big festivals yet, but it could be something that I could see losing Best Director but maybe feeling more "important" and/or relevant for the consensus vote for Best Picture. If Battle of the Sexes had a better release date, I actually think that it could also fit the bill because the subject matter seems pretty timely especially in light of the success of Wonder Woman and other female lead films this year. Yet I don't think Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris would win Best Director over Nolan.
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Post by eliuson on Jul 18, 2017 8:35:30 GMT
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2017 13:49:11 GMT
Got my tickets but no IMAX this time. The 70 mm IMAX theater in my city changed to a 4k screen
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2017 14:32:45 GMT
98% on RT with 51 reviews.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 18, 2017 14:48:15 GMT
Holy fuck. I mean, I expected the movie to be well-received but such astonishing ratings? Never thought this was gonna become Nolan's most acclaimed film by far. What can be said here...
N O L A N O L A N O L A N
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2017 14:53:24 GMT
Jeremy Jahns didn't even give it a rating. He didn't like it. Must have feared about the backlash he's gonna get
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Post by JangoB on Jul 18, 2017 14:55:20 GMT
Jeremy Jahns didn't even give it a rating. He didn't like it. Must have feared about the backlash he's gonna get What a puss.
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2017 14:59:38 GMT
No characters to care for is all Jeremy said.
Nolan specifically said this. I'm glad i read this before watching the film. I'm not that guy who always looks for characters to grab on their journey.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jul 18, 2017 16:25:29 GMT
Holy shit @ that Metacritic score.
Best Picture win incoming?
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Post by pessimusreincarnated on Jul 18, 2017 16:28:53 GMT
Jeremy Jahns didn't even give it a rating. He didn't like it. Must have feared about the backlash he's gonna get He gave Suicide Squad his version of a 4/5 and Age of Ultron a perfect score. I don't trust him to be analytical when reviewing movies. He's a casual filmgoer with a somewhat entertaining voice, nothing more.
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Post by morton on Jul 18, 2017 16:32:33 GMT
Holy shit @ that Metacritic score. Best Picture win incoming? Maybe? I think under the old system and membership, I would predict that it would have won, but now I don't know. It's very hard to sustain Best Picture momentum from July especially since I'm sure there will be a lot of backlash about something. I really don't what could take it down though. Even with new membership, I think Dunkirk should do very well for the steak eaters, and that might be enough for it to win. Of course, I thought that about The Revenant, but it wasn't as "important" as Spotlight. Fortunately for Dunkirk, I think that it can be considered "important", so maybe it will succeed where The Revenant and Gravity couldn't. Then again, if it doesn't get any acting nominations or a screenplay nomination, which could happen, I guess something else could sneak in and win Best Picture.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 18, 2017 16:40:52 GMT
Jeremy Jahns didn't even give it a rating. He didn't like it. Must have feared about the backlash he's gonna get Well, Jeremy Jahns is a shit reviewer with questionable-at-best taste. Also, this movie is apparently rather experimental, which makes me think its far less accessible than we might assume. Honestly, I've taken this negative review as a good sign.
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Post by notacrook on Jul 18, 2017 16:45:45 GMT
Jeremy Jahns didn't even give it a rating. He didn't like it. Must have feared about the backlash he's gonna get Jahns is entertaining enough, but far from a good reviewer who's opinion I trust and value. I prefer Stuckmann, who gave it an A. He's far from a perfect critic, but he's more analytical and seems to care more, which I appreciate. Not to mention the raves everywhere else.
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Post by mrimpossible on Jul 18, 2017 17:26:44 GMT
Holy shit @ that Metacritic score. Best Picture win incoming? Nah unless another contender doesn't come up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 17:47:51 GMT
I've seen it today at a special press screening in Istanbul. It's a technical marvel without a genuine emotional core. One might even come up and say it does not have a story. It's sequence after sequence of wartime hardship with great camerawork, astonishing cinematography and an affective, droning, disorienting score. The ensemble cast are just there as bodies. The nonlinear time frame thingy does almost nothing to the basic ass narrative. So yeah if you like visceral cinema without much to say you will like it but I found little to none artistic statement here and with such a lack of heart I don't know how this will win best picture like some are claiming already.
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Post by morton on Jul 18, 2017 18:38:29 GMT
I've seen it today at a special press screening in Istanbul. It's a technical marvel without a genuine emotional core. One might even come up and say it does not have a story. It's sequence after sequence of wartime hardship with great camerawork, astonishing cinematography and an affective, droning, disorienting score. The ensemble cast are just there as bodies. The nonlinear time frame thingy does almost nothing to the basic ass narrative. So yeah if you like visceral cinema without much to say you will like it but I found little to none artistic statement here and with such a lack of heart I don't know how this will win best picture like some are claiming already. Thank you for your insight. I had seen the criticism before the embargo lifted that it was going to be tough to even get nominated for Best Picture or Director because it didn't follow one main person or group around like in most war movies that AMPAS has favored. I did worry that was going to be a problem until the reviews started coming out, but I didn't want to overreact until real reviews started coming out since I did the opposite with Interstellar when the Tweets lead me to believe that it was going to be something AMPAS wouldn't ignore. Anyhow I don't think it will be a problem for Best Director, but it definitely could for Best Picture especially with how voting is done now. It just depends on what surprise contenders might emerge and what Oscar bait ends up failing.
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