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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 18:43:44 GMT
Overall - the worst film performance of her career - what do you think it is? I've yet to see the much-maligned Still of the Night, but from what I HAVE seen, it's The Manchurian Candidate, easily. It's a truly dreadful film, too... She was BAFTA- and Golden Globe-nominated for this performance...
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Post by Archie on Mar 11, 2022 18:46:02 GMT
Don't Look Up's Totally Not Trump caricature was just embarrassing.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 11, 2022 18:46:18 GMT
Overall - the worst film performance of her career - what do you think it is? I've yet to see the much-maligned Still of the Night, but from what I HAVE seen, it's The Manchurian Candidate, easily. It's a truly dreadful film, too... She was BAFTA- and Golden Globe-nominated for this performance... This is easily one of Streep's best performances. And it's a good film. Streep has a lot of turkeys to pick from....and you choose this....mmmmkay.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 18:48:46 GMT
Don't Look Up's Totally Not Trump caricature was just embarrassing. I still think Rylance was worse, but aside from DiCaprio and Lynskey, no one comes off of that film well in my mind.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 11, 2022 18:53:17 GMT
August: Osage County and Florence Foster Jenkins are her worst.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2022 19:32:01 GMT
I think she's great in Still of the Night - though it's a shallow role - she has an ace monologue and you can see what she's going for ( Helen Mirren - she even looks like Mirren a bit, below). It's the plot points of that movie that are all wacky.....even though it gets ripped a lot there's "ripped in 1982" vs. "what gets ripped now that movies suck" - I would argue you could do a triple feature of GOAT flops in that era - that are similar too Cruising / Still of the Night / Nicholson - Lange's Postman Always Rings Twice - and all 3 totally beat some of those stars later and horrifying career dreck ( Hangman / The Laundromat / Man Trouble) ........I would have loved to see Still of the Night with a different male lead...... I think her worst is one she got a lot of praise for - she always does! - Dancing at Lughnasa - which just rings false to me - and that's a great play too.....but it's so flat........... her accent however.........predictably....... is fncking awesome
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Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2022 19:37:20 GMT
Ironweed has always been my go-to answer on this. For Nicholson, too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 19:39:39 GMT
I think her worst is one she got a lot of praise for - she always does! - Dancing at Lughnasa - which just rings false to me - and that's a great play too.....but it's so flat........... her accent however.........predictably....... is fncking awesome Connected to my post earlier this week - Kristen Stewart also does an awesome Irish accent - check out Lizzie if you haven't already!
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 11, 2022 19:43:27 GMT
I really didn't like her performance in Hope Springs.
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Post by Nikan on Mar 11, 2022 19:43:37 GMT
That Candidate remake turned out to be better than what I was expecting and aside from one scene (which I think you can guess?) I didn't think Streep was bad or close to it...
As for the worst that I've seen, it's either Into the Woods or Don't Look Up. My 2021 "retire dear" award goes to her.
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Post by ibbi on Mar 11, 2022 20:04:39 GMT
To me there's a holy quartet I struggle to pick between - Ironweed, One True Thing, Doubt and Julie and Julia. Horrifying woman. The cartoon act she perfected with those last two sort of continued in The Iron Lady, Florence Foster Jenkins and August: Osage County, but I think in August it kind of fit the part fairly well, and in Florence you have Frears who is moviemaker enough to establish this heightened tone for the entire movie so that the absurdity works grounded within it, and in Iron Lady it only really applies to the prime Thatcher scenes (comical) whereas in the old lady stuff she's doing career-best work. Must be the Colman effect bringing the best out of her. In Doubt in her big confrontation with Phil I just look at their two contrasting approaches to that scene and can't help but laugh at her, and the ending... that accent was too much for her. Julie and Julia is probably bottom of the barrel for me though. Aside from that scene with the letter her performance in that film is like someone invited a clown to the library. It's amazing to me how in the middle of that run there was Hope Springs, which is one of my favourite things she's ever done.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 11, 2022 20:15:33 GMT
The Laundromat or Don't Look Up
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Post by sirjeremy on Mar 11, 2022 20:25:33 GMT
I wasn't crazy about her performance in Heartburn.
Haven't seen Still of the Night yet. Even she said she wasn't good in it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2022 20:58:40 GMT
I wasn't crazy about her performance in Heartburn. Haven't seen Still of the Night yet. Even she said she wasn't good in it.I'm not sure that's true - maybe I just haven't seen the quote though (?) I'd love to see what she said on that though if she did - I'm a pretty massive Streep fan - and have only heard her criticise Still of the Night as having a bad script and she took the part thinking it would get better when they started shooting it.......not her own actual performance / work in it (?) - I've heard her call it a bad movie a lot though. She's usually very coy about her own work - even here where she lets her guard down .......she answers the question but talks "around" it in a specific way
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Post by sirjeremy on Mar 11, 2022 21:26:00 GMT
I wasn't crazy about her performance in Heartburn. Haven't seen Still of the Night yet. Even she said she wasn't good in it.I'm not sure that's true - maybe I just haven't seen the quote though (?) I'd love to see what she said on that though if she did - I'm a pretty massive Streep fan - and have only heard her criticise Still of the Night as having a bad script and she took the part thinking it would get better when they started shooting it.......not her own actual performance / work in it (?) - I've heard her call it a bad movie a lot though. She's usually very coy about her own work - even here where she lets her guard down .......she answers the question but talks "around" it in a specific way I' Nearly 30 years on, I've never forgotten what she said about Still of the Night - that her choosing it was a 'blunder' and that the role was something she couldn't do - because it was the first time I'd read an actor talking about regretting doing a film they were in and saying they weren't great in it. It's from Empire magazine, January 1993, and I've just dug it up: www.simplystreep.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=3457The rest of the interview is a joy to read, too.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2022 21:46:32 GMT
I'm not sure that's true - maybe I just haven't seen the quote though (?) I'd love to see what she said on that though if she did - I'm a pretty massive Streep fan - and have only heard her criticise Still of the Night as having a bad script and she took the part thinking it would get better when they started shooting it.......not her own actual performance / work in it (?) - I've heard her call it a bad movie a lot though. She's usually very coy about her own work - even here where she lets her guard down .......she answers the question but talks "around" it in a specific way Nearly 30 years on, I've never forgotten what she said about Still of the Night - that her choosing it was a 'blunder' and that the role was something she couldn't do - because it was the first time I'd read an actor talking about regretting doing a film they were in and saying they weren't great in it. It's from Empire magazine, January 1993, and I've just dug it up: www.simplystreep.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=3457The rest of the interview is a joy to read, too. Thank you - I loved this! I don't quite read what she said the same way - to me she's saying nobody could have done anything with that movie - not so much like her performance isn't good or bad - just that it is bad - that she played the part as it was written and no one could do more with it because it's only an homage type film.........but I can see taking it the way you do too. Would love to hear your thoughts when you see it Btw that interview is really great - she takes quite a swipe at Dustin Hoffman reading between the lines - though she's sort of hiding it here: "Dustin doesn't laugh that much" .......... ........I know in recent years she hasn't been as nice about his on-set behavior.......
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 12, 2022 0:45:53 GMT
The Iron Lady is practically unwatchable.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 12, 2022 1:00:04 GMT
Not a fan of her work in August Osage County. Got ran off the screen by Julia Roberts.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 12, 2022 4:20:26 GMT
I'm one of the biggest Streep stans here but Florence Foster Jenkins was a baaaaaaaad movie.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 12, 2022 5:12:21 GMT
To add on to this wonderful list of bad work, I just wanna say that Before and After fucking sucks and Streep seems like she's dissociating half the time.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Mar 12, 2022 11:16:11 GMT
I agree that The Manchurian Candidate is horrible to the point of being almost unwatchable, but I don't think she's that bad in it (or good either). She's just... there. She's forgettable and unengaging, but so is the the film and everyone else in it.
My least favorite of her performances is definitely Julie and Julia, where her shrieky impersonation never rings true and frankly is just irritating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 13:06:46 GMT
What do you all think of Mamma Mia!? From what I've seen, that would have been my second choice... somehow that movie is even worse than The Manchurian Candidate.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 12, 2022 13:59:38 GMT
What do you all think of Mamma Mia!? From what I've seen, that would have been my second choice... somehow that movie is even worse than The Manchurian Candidate. I honestly think she's great in it. Charming, full of energy, elevates the movie.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 12, 2022 14:50:43 GMT
What do you all think of Mamma Mia!? From what I've seen, that would have been my second choice... somehow that movie is even worse than The Manchurian Candidate. I like her here too .......though the movie grows tiresome to me - she's better than it is. Sounding like a broken record but imo what really separates Meryl Streep - most of all - is that all the English speaking actors - male or female - who have excelled in film after her emergence (post the 1970s) can't match her breadth of work: just for comedy even - DDL, Washington, Hopkins, or even PSH and Phoenix can't - or they can't match her virtouso heights in amount of dramatic performances if they do have the comedic work ( Hanks, DiCap, etc). Like that's just MEN in the last 45 years - and of course she has the same edge over all subsequent females too. Performances like Mamma Mia seem slight in isolation - but to me they are part of this greater tapesty of whole body of work - of this set of much needed "lightening up" ones she willed into existence. Without them - all of them - she'd be closer to Liv Ullman - who is an all-timer obviously - but....... Also in Mamma Mia specifically - she has a genuine joy of performance - not merely "having fun" but a genuine joy as George C. Scott once called it - which is something that's missing in all the actors or actresses called "the male Streep" or "the "new" Streep".......there's actually none who are close to either of those things.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 17:56:44 GMT
pacinoyes - I don’t disagree with your arguments at all. I love Meryl Streep, and think she’s amazing. She’s also Tahar Rahim’s favorite actress - no surprise there, but thought you’d like to know.
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