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Post by wilcinema on Feb 3, 2022 13:47:38 GMT
WSS is falling off, I don't see Faist getting in, he was probably a jury save, and Oscar voting has already ended. I'll just predict the SAG five in Supporting Actor, Leto makes sense with Gaga doing so well and that Ensemble nomination.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Feb 3, 2022 13:52:47 GMT
I can't believe Denzel missed again! I really don't understand BAFTA's issue.
Happy for Plemons and a big thumbs down for Leo's nomination.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 3, 2022 14:03:07 GMT
I can't believe Denzel missed again! I really don't understand BAFTA's issue. Well, this new part Jury nominating system of theirs is quite eccentric. They clearly aren't using it just to make up for past omissions or right past wrongs (otherwise Denzel would have been a jury pick. I didn't expect him to be top 2 at all). If you aren't in the top 2 vote getters from the branch, it's basically a handful of Jury members deciding the rest of the nominees. The fact that even perceived British frontrunners/contenders like Carey Mulligan last year or Oliva Colman and Andrew Garfield this year can now miss at BAFTA makes their acting nominations almost unpredictable now. It's very conceivable that only 1 person (or none if Gaga is a shock snub) in the Best Actress line-up for BAFTA translates to Oscar. If this keeps up, their value as a useful precursor for some of these categories will diminish. They will keep increasingly just doing their own thing. I suspect Joanne Scalan wins the Best Actress BAFTA this year, and someone not nominated here (probably Kidman) takes the Oscar. |
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Post by flasuss on Feb 3, 2022 14:16:34 GMT
Yeah, at this point, they just don't like Denzel. I still think the top two in Best Actor were Cumberbatch and Smith, if only because Smith doesn't feel like a jury save at all Quite the opposite- black (perceived) frontrunner misses even the nomination to BAFTAs is exactly why the Jury system was created in the first place. |
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Feb 3, 2022 14:25:38 GMT
Who is the hell were the top two in Actress? Gaga and……?
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Post by stephen on Feb 3, 2022 14:27:51 GMT
Yeah, at this point, they just don't like Denzel. I still think the top two in Best Actor were Cumberbatch and Smith, if only because Smith doesn't feel like a jury save at all Quite the opposite- black (perceived) frontrunner misses even the nomination to BAFTAs is exactly why the Jury system was created in the first place. Eh, I feel like the system was designed more for performers like Adeel Akhtar and Mahershala Ali. Will Smith being an actor of color who just so happens to be the frontrunner doesn't mean that there was a pressure on voters to recognize him if he didn't make the top two. I think they just liked him that much. |
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Post by stephen on Feb 3, 2022 14:29:02 GMT
Who is the hell were the top two in Actress? Gaga and……? My money's on Scanlan. BIFA winner, hometown legend, in a film that is very popular over there. (And she's justly deserving, too.) |
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 3, 2022 14:39:03 GMT
It's so weird that Jessie Buckley was nominated but not Olivia Colman.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 14:39:55 GMT
It's so weird that Jessie Buckley was nominated but not Olivia Colman. Especially if you actually watched the movie... |
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Post by stephen on Feb 3, 2022 14:41:29 GMT
It's so weird that Jessie Buckley was nominated but not Olivia Colman. It's not that weird when you look at it, though. The jury knows Colman has won a slew of BAFTAs and if she didn't get into the top two, they probably decided to use their clout to recognize other performers. And isn't it a different jury per category? One doesn't know what the other is doing. |
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 3, 2022 14:44:44 GMT
We have to take these with a grain of salt. BAFTA's new voting rules are idiodic and the committees throw everything off.
It's hard to look at these with any historical context.
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Post by wilcinema on Feb 3, 2022 14:45:38 GMT
Smith as Top 2 still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Don't Look Up peaked during longlist voting, which would explain Leo as a top pick, and Ellis and Cast were jury picks too. I know Smith is an entirely different beast in this race, but with DLU getting into Best Film I think they just loved its main star.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Feb 3, 2022 14:47:03 GMT
dENzEl wIlL gET hIs fIrSt bAfTA NoM aS mACbeTH wITh tHE jUrY sAVe
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 3, 2022 14:48:24 GMT
Wow no Colman, Stewart or Kidman.-
No Denzel.
Titane not best foreign country language film, but best director.
Not West Side Story
Ground Zero again!!!
Maybe the Koda Actress will be Oscar nominated.-
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Post by flasuss on Feb 3, 2022 14:49:10 GMT
Quite the opposite- black (perceived) frontrunner misses even the nomination to BAFTAs is exactly why the Jury system was created in the first place. Eh, I feel like the system was designed more for performers like Adeel Akhtar and Mahershala Ali. Will Smith being an actor of color who just so happens to be the frontrunner doesn't mean that there was a pressure on voters to recognize him if he didn't make the top two. I think they just liked him that much. Not really. Adeel Akhtar and Mahershala Ali missing for these movies doesn't generate negative headlines for BAFTA, Smith missing does. |
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Feb 3, 2022 14:49:38 GMT
So Kodi was almost certainly number 1 but who was number two? Kotsur or Hinds?
Are we assume Debose and Balfe?
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 3, 2022 14:59:25 GMT
My biggest thing is trying to determine whether or not Leo a jury save. If he wasn’t, then he’s probably getting nominated for the Oscar.
The Denzel Washington thing is just sad at this point. Not sure how Ali makes more sense as a jury save.. I used to think that the BAFTA snub talk was overblown, but it’s pretty obvious now that it’s deliberate, and I don’t really understand it.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 3, 2022 15:00:17 GMT
We have to take these with a grain of salt. BAFTA's new voting rules are idiodic and the committees throw everything off. It's hard to take these as an indicator for the Oscars In terms of who’s getting nominated, yes. But they were dead on with winners last year. Will be interesting to see how they match up this year. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 3, 2022 15:01:47 GMT
Supporting Actor shows that we've definitely got a solid top three (Kodi, Troy, and Ciaran), but the rest of the category is in flux. My question is, which of these guys were our top two? Precursors would point to Smit-McPhee and Kotsur since they've hit everything, but Hinds doesn't feel quite like a jury pick the way Kotsur does. Faist and Plemons desperately needed this, and at the right time, too. I think it's too little, too late for both of them, but one of them could conceivably ride this wave to an Oscar nod. I think BCoop is 4th, and then it’s Leto v Plemons for the last spot. |
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 3, 2022 15:13:14 GMT
We have to take these with a grain of salt. BAFTA's new voting rules are idiodic and the committees throw everything off. It's hard to take these as an indicator for the Oscars In terms of who’s getting nominated, yes. But they were dead on with winners last year. Will be interesting to see how they match up this year. Even with winners, we are looking at 1 year of data. 2020 was anomaly because so few films were released too. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 3, 2022 15:17:31 GMT
My biggest thing is trying to determine whether or not Leo a jury save. If he wasn’t, then he’s probably getting nominated for the Oscar. The Denzel Washington thing is just sad at this point. Not sure how Ali makes more sense as a jury save.. I used to think that the BAFTA snub talk was overblown, but it’s pretty obvious now that it’s deliberate, and I don’t really understand it. I think he was among the top 2, Don't Look Up was popular across many categories, Top 5 Picture and Screenplay. My guess is Ali was the jury pick. |
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Post by flasuss on Feb 3, 2022 15:23:52 GMT
So Kodi was almost certainly number 1 but who was number two? Kotsur or Hinds? Are we assume Debose and Balfe? This being BAFTA, Hinds certainly, who maybe was even #1.
Balfe certainly, but Debose could easily be a jury pick.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 3, 2022 15:32:57 GMT
My biggest thing is trying to determine whether or not Leo a jury save. If he wasn’t, then he’s probably getting nominated for the Oscar. The Denzel Washington thing is just sad at this point. Not sure how Ali makes more sense as a jury save.. I used to think that the BAFTA snub talk was overblown, but it’s pretty obvious now that it’s deliberate, and I don’t really understand it. I think he was among the top 2, Don't Look Up was popular across many categories, Top 5 Picture and Screenplay. My guess is Ali was the jury pick. I dunno where he was but he quite logically could have been #2. He also logically it could be argued could be as high as 4th now - depending on if you think Garfield took a hit today (I don't tbh).....I mean none of these actor dudes aside from Smith / Cumby are "locks" and we've been calling them locks for way too long....... In terms of the Oscar race that BAFTA BP means "something" I don't know what exactly but it's not meaningless - the Academy is going to like DLU a lot more than BAFTA I'm guessing....... Makes the race more exciting........ |
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Post by iheartamyadams on Feb 3, 2022 15:39:20 GMT
The SAG snub will look very strange in hindsight if DiCaprio gets in at the Oscars.
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Post by filmnoir on Feb 3, 2022 15:49:52 GMT
Yeah, at this point, they just don't like Denzel. I still think the top two in Best Actor were Cumberbatch and Smith, if only because Smith doesn't feel like a jury save at all Quite the opposite- black (perceived) frontrunner misses even the nomination to BAFTAs is exactly why the Jury system was created in the first place. But King Richard also got nods for Supporting Actress, Screenplay, Casting. I also doubt the other nominees in Best Actor would have been in the Top 2. |
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