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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 14:21:23 GMT
1. The Lion in Winter
2. On Golden Pond
3. Morning Glory
4. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
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Post by Schiggy on Apr 24, 2017 16:41:28 GMT
I've only seen Guess Who's Coming to Dinner but she's supporting and not even that good. So that's a def bleh win in general.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 25, 2017 16:09:03 GMT
1. Lion in Winter
2. Morning Glory
3. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
NS On Golden Pond
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Post by stephen on Apr 25, 2017 16:17:36 GMT
1. The Lion in Winter
2. On Golden Pond
3. Morning Glory
4. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
I have no qualms with her winning four Oscars. But aside from her Eleanor of Aquitaine (which I consider her finest work), she won for her weakest nominations.
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Post by taranofprydain on Apr 25, 2017 16:34:23 GMT
The Lion in Winter
On Golden Pond
Morning Glory
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 16:22:09 GMT
I have no qualms with her winning four Oscars. But aside from her Eleanor of Aquitaine (which I consider her finest work), she won for her weakest nominations. I don't disagree. I would say The Philadelphia Story, Summertime, and Long Day's Journey Into Night would have made the more worthy wins from her nominated work. |
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Post by stephen on Apr 26, 2017 16:50:42 GMT
I have no qualms with her winning four Oscars. But aside from her Eleanor of Aquitaine (which I consider her finest work), she won for her weakest nominations. I don't disagree. I would say The Philadelphia Story, Summertime, and Long Day's Journey Into Night would have made the more worthy wins from her nominated work. I'd put The Rainmaker in there over the first two, but she would've made a sublime winner for Long Day's Journey, as would any of the non-Bette Davis nominees. 1962 was a phenomenal year, and if they'd deigned to run Patty Duke in the right category over Davis, it would've been the best lineup out of any category ever. |
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Apr 27, 2017 10:45:47 GMT
1. On Golden Pond
2. The Lion in Winter
3. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Number 1 and 2 are constantly trading places, they're my favorite performances of hers and I love both equally. Third is one of my least favorite performances of hers. Haven't seen Morning Glory yet.
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Post by agent69 on Apr 27, 2017 14:04:47 GMT
1. The Lion in Winter
2. On Golden Pond
3. Morning Glory
4. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 27, 2017 17:53:36 GMT
The Lion In Winter
On Golden Pond
Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
Morning Glory
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Post by mizzaphoenix on Apr 27, 2017 20:02:23 GMT
I prefer her in her earlier work. I wouldn't really nominate her in these.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 27, 2017 22:38:25 GMT
1. On Golden Pond
2. The Lion in Winter
3. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
n/s Morning Glory
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Post by scorpio68 on Apr 28, 2017 3:17:30 GMT
The Lion in Winter
On Golden Pond
Morning Glory
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Her 1968 win is one of her best performances ever, the other 3 wins are at least fairly strong performances - at the very least, she was certainly worthy of 4 Best Actress Oscars
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Post by getclutch on Apr 28, 2017 13:30:37 GMT
The Lion in Winter
On Golden Pond
Morning Glory
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:50:13 GMT
What do you think of Carroll Baker in Baby Doll? She'd for sure have gotten my vote in '56. |
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Post by stephen on Apr 28, 2017 19:04:09 GMT
What do you think of Carroll Baker in Baby Doll? She'd for sure have gotten my vote in '56. She was very good. I nominate her. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 23:23:43 GMT
So, from her nominated performances (ranking her with her fellow nominees), I for sure would have awarded her for...
1940: The Philadelphia Story
1959: Suddenly, Last Summer
1962: Long Day's Journey Into Night
1968: The Lion in Winter
I go back and forth between her work in Summertime and Susan Hayward's in I'll Cry Tomorrow for 1955. I'll go with Hayward for now.
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Post by jimmalone on May 2, 2017 14:46:22 GMT
1. The Lion in Winter2. On Golden Pond3. Morning Glory4. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
1. The Lion in Winter 2. On Golden Pond 3. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? Haven't seen Morning Glory |
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Post by wendy on May 2, 2017 18:42:07 GMT
Terrific:
1. Morning Glory (not as much fire as her Eleanor, but she absolutely sparkles here... an incandescent star turn that shows a lot more emotional range than she did most of the time)
2. The Lion In Winter
Unremarkable:
3. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?
Glll:
4. On Golden Pond
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Post by marvelass on May 3, 2017 15:24:49 GMT
I don't understand why people consider Duke co-lead. The whole movie is told from Annie's POV, and it's her journey we follow. In The Miracle Worker, Helen is just a means to an end for her to come to terms with her guilt over her brother's death in an almshouse. That's Helen's main purpose in the film. So, she supports Annie in that regard. I think people get confused because Helen Keller is the more famous name and an icon, so it's hard for people to see her as a supporting character in a story that depicts her childhood. But, as I pointed out, the movie is mainly about Anne Sullivan and her struggles.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 2:08:04 GMT
Terrific: 1. Morning Glory (not as much fire as her Eleanor, but she absolutely sparkles here... an incandescent star turn that shows a lot more emotional range than she did most of the time) 2. The Lion In Winter Unremarkable: 3. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? Glll: 4. On Golden Pond For which of her nominated performances would you have awarded her? |
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Post by fujiwarafan on May 4, 2017 12:45:33 GMT
1. On Golden Pond (her "farewell" to acting, very serene and touching performance)
2. Morning Glory (very energetic, vital and a "young" performance)
3. The Lion in Winter (good but never stood out for me)
4. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? (Totally underserved)
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Post by wendy on May 4, 2017 18:15:02 GMT
Terrific: 1. Morning Glory (not as much fire as her Eleanor, but she absolutely sparkles here... an incandescent star turn that shows a lot more emotional range than she did most of the time) 2. The Lion In Winter Unremarkable: 3. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? Glll: 4. On Golden Pond For which of her nominated performances would you have awarded her? None. Long Day's Journey Into Night is the closest but that year is ridiculous with lead actress performances. When you consider all the international gals (Andersson, Papas, etc.) she's lucky to make a top 10. And that performance would win in other years. I also love her in stuff like Desk Set and The Trojan Women a lot and she's quite high up for those. But I actually find it's often with her that her stronger work is in an incredible year.  |
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Post by marvelass on May 4, 2017 19:32:29 GMT
Why do people assume that the Oscars are an international award? Yes, they've awarded foreign performances and films, from time to time, but AMPAS is an American institution, first and foremost. Do people expect the same of the Césars or Goyas? (I don't count the BAFTAs as a 'foreign' award, because they've ingratiated themselves with the Oscars.)
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Post by scottydoesnotknow on May 5, 2017 21:18:44 GMT
I find that she and Bette Davis did not win for their strongest performances with The Lion in Winter being the exception. That in itself is not unusual, but both have multiple Oscars and it's weird that all of their wins were for the weaker material of their filmography. I think their Oscar wins and losses are shining examples of timing, narrative, and who the alternatives are being major factors in determining who wins an Oscar.
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