When you type into Google "greatest actors" + "famous actors

Eh, idk. Always Sunny, being in a shit-ton of Tim Burton movies (Depp rates as the most known actor), and being a meme. He may not be a draw like Washington or Hanks, but I can see an argument that he's about as well-known to the general public.

For my money the greatest narration voice ever. 

Actually these particular Google results or the Yougov polls - show how movie fans (or people in general) live by Argumentum ad populum - the false idea that something is "true" because the majority think so.

Like nowhere in any of these polls is Morgan Freeman anything - at all - other than "not hated by almost, anyone"

Do you like Morgan Freeman? Yeah ....sure.....

It's amazing how much we live on polls and lists when they're really just fight starters rather than fight settlers.....

I get why Freeman makes it, but I think Freeman is a guy you tend to respect more than love.   People get less attached to him and his characters than they do with Denzel.   Not saying nobody loves him, just saying his characters which tend to be sympathetic poor sods or elders or school principals (like in Lean On Me) seems to hint "guy you respect" but I think way more people get attached to Denzel's characters.  Again not saying absolutely nobody loves him, just less than Denzel, in general imo.


And.... Ooohhhhh ohhhhh, I redid it with slightly different characters, and I got this:


Anyways, my new redone version....



"Greatest Actors of All Time"

1. Robert DeNiro
2. Marlon Brando
3. Tom Hanks
4. Jack Nicholson
5. Daniel Day-Lewis
6. Al Pacino
7. Denzel Washington
8. Anthony Hopkins
9. Leonardo DiCaprio
10. Dustin Hoffman
11. Laurence Olivier
12. Morgan Freeman


"Greatest Actresses of all All Time"

1. Meryl Streep
2. Katharine Hepburn
3. Bette Davis
4. Elizabeth Taylor
5. Audrey Hepburn
6. Ingrid Bergman
7. Julianne Moore
8. Cate Blanchett
9. Jodie Foster
10. Vivien Leigh
11. Grace Kelly
12. Kate Winslet


"Most Popular Hollywood Actors"

1. Tom Hanks
2. Leonardo DiCaprio
3. Johnny Depp
4. Tom Cruise
5. Scarlett Johansson
6. Will Smith
7. Jennifer Lawrence
8. Denzel Washington
9. Robert Downey Jr.
10. Robert DeNiro
11. Brad Pitt
12. Al Pacino

I think the female list is more predictable because besides Kelly, every single one made this boards Top 25.

In the real world, Kelly is considered a great actress not just a star which this board considers her as. Sure she's known for tabloids but people who dont go on IMDB definitely dont see much difference between her or Audrey or Liz, but the pecking order here is 1) Audrey 2) Liz 3) Kelly

Like you said, these tend to scramble so it doesn't mean too much but these definitely look frightfully similar to the lists made on this board. So that's something to take into account, imo
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Its also worth noting that these lists skip the 70s and 80s and go directly to the golden age/classic Hollywood and jumps straight to the 90s then 00s. I guess Dunaway, Keaton, Lange, Spacek, Burstyn, and Winger gets the short end of the stick.

pacinoyes - LOL. You're right. It's missing Lemmon, Hackman, and Newman. Well I searched and Newman barely missed. I think he was #13 or #14 so he's close by and not significantly far.   But.... in no world is Hackman and Lemmon this high on the hierarchy of great actors.  That's just the truth. It's only Movie Awards/Oscar Buzz that has those 2 people that high.  Not even Film General have those 2 near the Top 25.

I think if you go on Film General, you'll get roughly the same list except Bogart replaces Lemmon, and Mifune for sure replaces Hackman just because of all the Kurosawa fanboys over there yet not here. Hackman as I've remember you said before, is a tier lower than DePac, Nicholson, and Hoffman on the 70s scale. Maybe he's not less great, but as you said he feels bit peripheral and just not as big by reputation.

Well..... Denzel, Leo, and Hanks probably makes any list irl over PSH or Phoenix - PTA is always bigger on the internet and film world than they are irl. 

And yeah... maybe the Oscars matter, so I'm shocked of the omission of McDormand. She has 3 times the Oscars of Winslet and Kidman and Mirren, yet Kidman and Mirren featured on the first list and Winslet featured on the 2nd. I don't think McDormand is perceived as strong an actress as this board would like to tell you despite her huge awards cabinet.... but most of them earned in the 2010s where award shows inflated by the count. Viola Davis nowhere near these lists is also surprising if awards really do matter that much.

When I type that in I get the following:

Daniel Day-Lewis
Denzel 
Bobby D
Hanks
Jack 
Pacino
Leo
Brando
Hopkins
Hoffman
Freeman

Looks like Google finally got redpilled and knows we live in a society. 

Franklin as number one is beyond funny. I'm not sure if I should laugh or be offended. LMAO. 

I try not to think like general audiences - you want to be a snob in everything in life - let's hear it for elitism   ........

I think the general public would think Viola Davis over some of those names for a "general audience" ...........McDormand because she's that lady who wins for everything they see on TV etc.  Maybe even Theron or Adams .........

I like your list much better than what the GP would likely pick tbh ......

To me there's just no way any of those guys ^ (except DiCap) will be held in the same esteem level as Tom Hanks - and I like ALL of those guys better than Tom Hanks - people twist themselves into knots arguing "against" him - he's too nice, he never played bad guys blah blah but people love him so much they don't see that the same way at all - that's message board dumb-assery:

He's got somewhere around 10 BP nominees already - more to come - he has A TON of other classics - family classics too - his films can be watched dozens of times in the cases of some of those, they are made for watching on your TV which is where cinema is going .........he's going to win 3 Oscars, maybe even by next year (and play a viillain). People rate an actor by how much they like an actor - America loves him.......his being "too nice"is the f'n point, not the problem ........ DiCap could rival him but no one else that I see.

I'd add Brando, Nicholson, on the list and I think there are classic male actors who would  hover around the top 10 - Newman, Lemmon, Eastwood, Stewart - I also think Joaquin Phoenix has positioned himself or will as the "alternative" actor - what Depp or PSH were - where he stands removed from his peers yet not small time - in a way that relates to this board - all the others are acclaimed like Radiohead, he's acclaimed like The Replacements........

If that hasn't happened yet..........It certainly will ......

Side note: My "friend" (acquaintance!)  - movie critic (he's on RT!) told me Phoenix is just incredible in C'Mon, C'Mon and when I asked him could he get nodded he said "I don't know, but that's not really the point of the performance" ..............which sort of sums him up in that "alternative" way .....