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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 23, 2021 20:56:51 GMT
If you type " greatest actors", " greatest actresses", and " famous Hollywood actors" into Google, (exactly as it's written and spelled out like that) this is what you get as a Top 12 from left to right tabs: I think this is somewhat worth a look, though not intended to be the ultimate measuring stick of course. " Greatest Actors" 1. Denzel Washington 2. Daniel Day-Lewis 3. Tom Hanks 4. Robert DeNiro 5. Leonardo DiCaprio 6. Al Pacino 7. Jack Nicholson 8. Marlon Brando 9. Clint Eastwood 10. Christian Bale 11. Joaquin Phoenix 12. Anthony Hopkins " Greatest Actresses" 1. Meryl Streep 2. Bette Davis 3. Katharine Hepburn 4. Ingrid Bergman 5. Julianne Moore 6. Audrey Hepburn 7. Elizabeth Taylor 8. Cate Blanchett 9. Nicole Kidman 10. Grace Kelly 11. Helen Mirren 12. Jodie Foster " Famous Hollywood Actors" 1. Tom Hanks 2. Leonardo DiCaprio 3. Will Smith 4. Robert Downey Jr. 5. Tom Cruise 6. Johnny Depp 7. Scarlett Johansson 8. Dwayne Johnson 9. Jennifer Lawrence 10. Brad Pitt 11. Angelina Jolie 12. Denzel Washington My opinions: - pupdurcs is gonna be happy with that #1 for greatest actor. Giving him ammo to his lifelong selling that Denzel Washington is indeed known as the greatest actor of all time, and it's just this forum that has him lower by comparison. -In no world of mine is Christian Bale and Joaquin Phoenix that high as great actors, but I get that it might be a little bit recency based. Though Bale has The Fighter, which is better than most actors’ best performance. -The greatest actresses list would be accurate to a list made by this board. It looks like a MAR list all the way. -Marilyn > Audrey. Can't see having Audrey but not Marilyn. -Robert Downey Jr. and Dwayne Johnson? I think this just counts who stars in the biggest movies. If you're naming The Rock or Downey Jr. as the most seen actors... possibly yeah. But I don't think they're anywhere near as loved as Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts. If you take into account actors who are loved in movies, and not just seen.... you can't name a Top 12 without Bullock and Roberts. I personally would replace DiCaprio and Johansson with Harrison Ford and Clint Eastwood. At their days, I think they were way more popular.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 23, 2021 21:02:13 GMT
I think you’re confused by what “most famous actors” means.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 23, 2021 21:03:42 GMT
I think you’re confused by what “most famous actors” means. Ok..... please elaborate on what I'm confused about.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 23, 2021 21:09:53 GMT
I think you’re confused by what “most famous actors” means. Ok..... please elaborate on what I'm confused about. There is no conceivable list of most famous actors that doesn’t include RDJ and The Rock. They are 2 of the most internationally famous actors easily. Not sure why you’re argument against them is that they are not beloved like Bullock or Roberts? That has zero to do with their level of fame.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 23, 2021 21:12:23 GMT
This isn't meant to be a "real" list it's just reflective of their algorithms and certain keywords and things like that. So the totality of searches and key words used reflects how the list is shown when you search it..... For example: "Greatest British Actors" starts with........... Tom Hardy in that "#1 spot" (though it isn't called that)
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 23, 2021 21:15:01 GMT
Ok..... please elaborate on what I'm confused about. There is no conceivable list of most famous actors that doesn’t include RDJ and The Rock. They are 2 of the most internationally famous actors easily. Not sure why you’re argument against them is that they are not beloved like Bullock or Roberts? That has zero to do with their level of fame. Ok, but then it's also saying The Rock is above Arnold. The Rock is well known for sure. No one's arguing that any of them aren't well known, just debating who's slightly more known than the other. It is a finnicky mental exercise I suppose, but in what world is RDJ and The Rock above Clint Eastwood and Arnold in terms of fame and pop culture iconography? That's what fame means right?
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 23, 2021 21:28:22 GMT
There is no conceivable list of most famous actors that doesn’t include RDJ and The Rock. They are 2 of the most internationally famous actors easily. Not sure why you’re argument against them is that they are not beloved like Bullock or Roberts? That has zero to do with their level of fame. Ok, but then it's also saying The Rock is above Arnold. The Rock is well known for sure. No one's arguing that any of them aren't well known, just debating who's slightly more known than the other. It is a finnicky mental exercise I suppose, but in what world is RDJ and The Rock above Clint Eastwood and Arnold in terms of fame and pop culture iconography? That's what fame means right? Today they probably are. Who do you think people under the age of 30 know more? And sure, Arnold and Eastwood are more well known to an older generation but I’d say RDJ and The Rock win out when looking at the full spectrum from very young to very old.
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Post by countjohn on Aug 23, 2021 21:29:06 GMT
In addition to what pacinoyes said I'm typing in these search terms and am getting the results back with different names and in varying orders. So I wouldn't put too much stock in the order the names come up in. I typed in "greatest actor" in the singular and DDL came up at no. 1 with different names like Oldman and Penn up there as well. "Best film actor" has Anthony Hopkins first, "greatest film actor" had De Niro, for "best movie actor" it's Tom Hanks. There's a lot of randomness to stuff like this.
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Post by quetee on Aug 23, 2021 21:40:45 GMT
I got top ten:
Denzel Bobby D Daniel Day Lewis Tom Hanks Al Pacino Leo Marlon Brando Jack Clint Anthony Hopkins
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 23, 2021 21:41:37 GMT
If you type " greatest actors", " greatest actresses", and " famous Hollywood actors" into Google, (exactly as it's written and spelled out like that) this is what you get as a Top 12 from left to right tabs: I think this is somewhat worth a look, though not intended to be the ultimate measuring stick of course. " Greatest Actors" 1. Denzel Washington 2. Daniel Day-Lewis 3. Tom Hanks 4. Robert DeNiro 5. Leonardo DiCaprio 6. Al Pacino 7. Jack Nicholson 8. Marlon Brando 9. Clint Eastwood 10. Christian Bale 11. Joaquin Phoenix 12. Anthony Hopkins " Greatest Actresses" 1. Meryl Streep 2. Bette Davis 3. Katharine Hepburn 4. Ingrid Bergman 5. Julianne Moore 6. Audrey Hepburn 7. Elizabeth Taylor 8. Cate Blanchett 9. Nicole Kidman 10. Grace Kelly 11. Helen Mirren 12. Jodie Foster " Famous Hollywood Actors" 1. Tom Hanks 2. Leonardo DiCaprio 3. Will Smith 4. Robert Downey Jr. 5. Tom Cruise 6. Johnny Depp 7. Scarlett Johansson 8. Dwayne Johnson 9. Jennifer Lawrence 10. Brad Pitt 11. Angelina Jolie 12. Denzel Washington My opinions: - pupdurcs is gonna be happy with that #1 for greatest actor. Giving him ammo to his lifelong selling that Denzel Washington is indeed known as the greatest actor of all time, and it's just this forum that has him lower by comparison. Ehhh....I don't need a Google Search Function to know that Denzel Washington in the real world has been regarded as the measuring stick of great actors for quite a few years now. He is what Pacino and DeNiro were to general audiences in the 80's and 90's . Or what Brando was to them in the 50's and 70's. If this forum or some others want to pretend otherwise, that's kinda up to them. Won't change reality.
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Post by stephen on Aug 23, 2021 21:44:46 GMT
" Greatest Actors" 9. Clint Eastwood Glad someone finally said it.
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Post by quetee on Aug 23, 2021 21:47:05 GMT
" Greatest Actors" 9. Clint Eastwood Glad someone finally said it. My dad would sign off on that one too. Haha.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 23, 2021 21:48:19 GMT
Ok, but then it's also saying The Rock is above Arnold. The Rock is well known for sure. No one's arguing that any of them aren't well known, just debating who's slightly more known than the other. It is a finnicky mental exercise I suppose, but in what world is RDJ and The Rock above Clint Eastwood and Arnold in terms of fame and pop culture iconography? That's what fame means right? Today they probably are. Who do you think people under the age of 30 know more? And sure, Arnold and Eastwood are more well known to an older generation but I’d say RDJ and The Rock win out when looking at the full spectrum from very young to very old. By that logic, I can say J-Law wins out over Kidman looking at the full spectrum because she is more of a young person's thing, even though you'll tell me I'm wrong. Nobody over 30 would seriously think RDJ and The Rock > Arnold and Eastwood, and last I checked there are more people as an overall population above 30 than below 30.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 23, 2021 21:52:18 GMT
Today they probably are. Who do you think people under the age of 30 know more? And sure, Arnold and Eastwood are more well known to an older generation but I’d say RDJ and The Rock win out when looking at the full spectrum from very young to very old. By that logic, I can say J-Law wins out over Kidman looking at the full spectrum because she is more of a young person's thing, even though you'll tell me I'm wrong. Nobody over 30 would seriously think RDJ and The Rock > Arnold and Eastwood, and last I checked there are more people as an overall population above 30 than below 30. What I’m saying is in terms of the current overall population in 2021, RDJ and The Rock are easily on any list and would be ahead of Arnie and Eastwood in terms of their level of fame.
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Post by stephen on Aug 23, 2021 21:52:32 GMT
Glad someone finally said it. My dad would sign off on that one too. Haha. Respect. But honestly, Clint is very much underrated in the pantheon and deserves a lot more recognition for his skill set. I still maintain his performance in Unforgiven is one of the most technically impressive Best Actor-nominated performances of that decade, and is probably the most underrated overall. The way he makes it look so easy as to seem effortless -- yeah, it's in his wheelhouse, but the man built that wheelhouse, and we've seen great actors come along afterwards trying to Clint it up and they just can't do it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 23, 2021 21:56:30 GMT
This is so stupid fun ........ Somehow the algorithm is fncked up and Keith Urban places ahead of Luke Hemsworth Greatest Australian Actors 1, Hugh Jackman 2. Chris Hensworth 3. Geoffrey Rush 4. Eric Bana 5. Heath Ledger 6. Liam Hemsworth 7. Hugo Weaving 8. Simon Baker 9. Russell Crowe 10. Guy Pearce
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Post by countjohn on Aug 24, 2021 1:35:30 GMT
By that logic, I can say J-Law wins out over Kidman looking at the full spectrum because she is more of a young person's thing, even though you'll tell me I'm wrong. Nobody over 30 would seriously think RDJ and The Rock > Arnold and Eastwood, and last I checked there are more people as an overall population above 30 than below 30. What I’m saying is in terms of the current overall population in 2021, RDJ and The Rock are easily on any list and would be ahead of Arnie and Eastwood in terms of their level of fame. IDK man, basically everyone knows Eastwood in the western world and can immediately eyeball a pic of him, even if you're a zoomer who's never seen any of his movies. He's at that John Wayne/Audrey Hepburn/Marilyn Monroe level of iconic. There's plenty of old people who've never heard of The Rock and people who just don't care about the MCU/Superhero movies and don't really know RDJ as a result.
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Post by franklin on Aug 24, 2021 1:45:32 GMT
Great and accurate list, aside from Eastwood in the top 10 greatest actors, but i get it, he's a unique beloved super icon who at the age of 90 is still relevant and still lingers in the general public's minds.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 24, 2021 2:40:06 GMT
What I’m saying is in terms of the current overall population in 2021, RDJ and The Rock are easily on any list and would be ahead of Arnie and Eastwood in terms of their level of fame. IDK man, basically everyone knows Eastwood in the western world and can immediately eyeball a pic of him, even if you're a zoomer who's never seen any of his movies. He's at that John Wayne/Audrey Hepburn/Marilyn Monroe level of iconic. There's plenty of old people who've never heard of The Rock and people who just don't care about the MCU/Superhero movies and don't really know RDJ as a result. Well... that's kinda what I'm saying. The Rock and RDJ has exploded in the 2010s, but Arnold is more well known overall. And that's also without saying that he's still making movies right now, so he's not exactly flown off the map even tho the interest is less than The Terminator or Jingle all the Way days. The only thing my dad knows of The Rock is.... "Was he in that movie White House Down???" That's besides saying that The Rock wasn't even in White House Down, he just assumed it looked like a film where The Rock would be in the central role. Both mom and dad knows Eastwood and Arnold. They remember a time when Arnold was movie star, not governor. Neither has one clue who Downey is. I'm only 34 and unless you just habitually watch comic book movies and blockbusters released from the 2010s, Arnold and Eastwood are still more famous than Downey and The Rock. Talks about The Rock being potentially Arnold part II occurred as early as The Scorpion King, I will admit - but I still don't see that he has surpassed Arnold, with respect to the fact that both are still making movies.
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Post by cherry68 on Aug 24, 2021 5:46:41 GMT
By that logic, I can say J-Law wins out over Kidman looking at the full spectrum because she is more of a young person's thing, even though you'll tell me I'm wrong. Nobody over 30 would seriously think RDJ and The Rock > Arnold and Eastwood, and last I checked there are more people as an overall population above 30 than below 30. What I’m saying is in terms of the current overall population in 2021, RDJ and The Rock are easily on any list and would be ahead of Arnie and Eastwood in terms of their level of fame. I'm sure my mother never heard even the name of The Rock and probably R D J. Besides, don't underestimate the number of baby boomers to evaluate the current overall population. In terms of how many people search actors ' names on the Internet, actually the results might be different than the real life though.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Aug 24, 2021 13:36:31 GMT
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Post by quetee on Aug 24, 2021 16:24:02 GMT
I don't buy this YouGov list ( Morgan Freeman first on every demographic target really??) Btw, slightly off-topic, but if instead of "Greatest Actors" you google "Greatest Actors of All Time", this is the result for the top 10: 1. R. DeNiro 2. M. Brando 3. T. Hanks 4. J. Nicholson 5. D. Day-Lewis 6. Al Pacino 7. D. Washington 8. A. Hopkins 9. D. Hoffman 10.L.DiCaprio Why is that so hard to believe?
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 24, 2021 16:28:26 GMT
I don't buy this YouGov list (Morgan Freeman first on every ah, really??. Btw, slightly off-topic, but if instead of "Greatest Actors" you google "Greatest Actors of All Time", this is the result for the top 10: 1. R. DeNiro 2. M. Brando3. T. Hanks 4. J. Nicholson 5. D. Day-Lewis 6. Al Pacino 7. D. Washington 8. A. Hopkins 9. D. Hoffman 10.L.DiCaprio The 5 in bold looks like our MAR top 5 list just reordered .........way to ruin it America's Dad!!! Interesting note: that entire list is almost all 2 or 3 Oscar winners which probably factors into searches ..........only Pacino and DiCap have just 1 win ......and I would guess that Hopkins had a lot of searches on his name in the last year because of The Father - and people looking up things like "How many Oscars does Anthony Hopkins have?"............. and things like that which certainly connects to the algorithm ........
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 24, 2021 17:37:26 GMT
I don't buy this YouGov list ( Morgan Freeman first on every demographic target really??) Btw, slightly off-topic, but if instead of "Greatest Actors" you google "Greatest Actors of All Time", this is the result for the top 10: 1. R. DeNiro 2. M. Brando 3. T. Hanks 4. J. Nicholson 5. D. Day-Lewis 6. Al Pacino 7. D. Washington 8. A. Hopkins 9. D. Hoffman 10.L.DiCaprio Why is that so hard to believe? I know right? Morgan Freeman is the black Tom Hanks. His range might not be enormous and he isn't always at the forefront of GOAT debates, but his likability rating with audiences is through the fucking roof! If Hanks is America's Dad, Freeman is America's Grandapa. Everyone loves him. Even in the UK, he was voted the most popular contemporary actor of 2020: yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/contemporary-actors/all
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