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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 12:54:15 GMT
Demi Moore and G.I. Jane/The Scarlet Letter.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 22, 2021 15:15:31 GMT
Ed Norton around 2004.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jul 23, 2021 3:09:25 GMT
I'm no fan of Gosling and I did not finish Drive as I failed to see "anything" in it, especially his overhyped performance in there, but he is the only one in this thread who is far far far away from being included in a "Decline" list. More people should be outrightly protesting! On a personal note, I LOVED him in First Man (he made me cry!) and I'll watch Blade Runner's sequel one day just to see how he did in that. Give Drive another shot. It's my film of the last decade, and he is pitch-perfect in it. Blade Runner 2049 is almost as great, too, and his performance is even better and, for me, is his career-best (my win that year). I watched most of Drive by the way, I just lost interest on the way. No one, even Carey Mulligan and Oscar Isaac who both I've been a fan of in other movies, did nothing for me. But yay, you made me even more excited for Blade Runner 2049! Thanks )
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Post by jakesully on Jul 23, 2021 3:41:47 GMT
Give Drive another shot. It's my film of the last decade, and he is pitch-perfect in it. Blade Runner 2049 is almost as great, too, and his performance is even better and, for me, is his career-best (my win that year). I watched most of Drive by the way, I just lost interest on the way. No one, even Carey Mulligan and Oscar Isaac who both I've been a fan of in other movies, did nothing for me. But yay, you made me even more excited for Blade Runner 2049! Thanks ) Nicolas Winding Refn films are not for everyone (definitely an "acquired taste" that is for sure haha) so I can completely understand how someone wouldn't be into it as others are (some of my friends aren't too fond of Refn's movies either but me? I pretty much adore all of them (From the Pusher trilogy to Only God Forgives etc ). Drive is my #1 film of the past decade (it just hit all the right notes for me from beginning to end). And you should definitely get around to seeing Blade Runner 2049 when you get the chance! It is visually stunning with a great great story (I think I like it even more than the original Blade Runner, its that good imo ) .
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Post by jakesully on Jul 23, 2021 21:02:07 GMT
I'll add Jeremy Renner. He exploded on the scene with The Hurt Locker then The Town back to back roles that earned him 2 Oscar noms. And While I still remain a pretty big fan of his acting , lately it seems that Jeremy Renner is only playing Hawkeye. He even has a Hawkeye Disney + show coming out later this year. Blah I'm sure he's getting paid rather well (at least for his sake I hope he is) but he is too good of an actor to be still wasting his time with the MCU. After the rather disappointing Avengers: Endgame I pretty much lost all interest in that shit (totally burnt out from it).His last true really good performance was in Wind River. He was sensational in that. He has some show that is being filmed called Mayor of Kingstown but I read the premise and it doesn't sound all that interesting to me. But who knows it could be great. Then there is that Spawn reboot that he's been attached to for quite some time which doesn't sound promising either. Another than that , all he has lined up in some voice work. I know he's recently been in the celeb gossip news for all the wrong reasons (all that drama with his ex sounds really messy and sorta disturbing). And there is his music "career"...smh so bad.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 24, 2021 0:12:48 GMT
I'll add Jeremy Renner. He exploded on the scene with The Hurt Locker then The Town back to back roles that earned him 2 Oscar noms. And While I still remain a pretty big fan of his acting , lately it seems that Jeremy Renner is only playing Hawkeye. He even has a Hawkeye Disney + show coming out later this year. Blah I'm sure he's getting paid rather well (at least for his sake I hope he is) but he is too good of an actor to be still wasting his time with the MCU. After the rather disappointing Avengers: Endgame I pretty much lost all interest in that shit (totally burnt out from it).His last true really good performance was in Wind River. He was sensational in that. He has some show that is being filmed called Mayor of Kingstown but I read the premise and it doesn't sound all that interesting to me. But who knows it could be great. Then there is that Spawn reboot that he's been attached to for quite some time which doesn't sound promising either. Another than that , all he has lined up in some voice work. I know he's recently been in the celeb gossip news for all the wrong reasons (all that drama with his ex sounds really messy and sorta disturbing). And there is his music "career"...smh so bad. Yeah, Renner really flamed out. Very good in a Best Picture Winner, even better in the next year's follow-up with probably a #2 position in the Oscar race against an all-time level Bale, and then shit shut down. I think that Kill the Messenger movie did something to his run/energy.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jul 24, 2021 0:13:50 GMT
How about Michael Fassbender and The Snowman?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 24, 2021 10:40:50 GMT
How about Michael Fassbender and The Snowman? I think his decline started a little earlier. Maybe since Days of Future Past, his last successful movie. The Snowman was a chance for him to get some steam back but it didn't work out. He's been in mediocre/bad stuff since then.
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Post by franklin on Jul 24, 2021 12:35:42 GMT
I think Fassbender started to fade around 2015-2016 (39-40 years old). Steve Jobs was a commercial flop, but still it was decent enough critically to warrant him an Oscar nomination.
The 2016-2019 period though has been a string of underperforming movies or outright flops for him (Assassin's Creed, The Light Between Oceans, X-Men:Apocalypse, Alien-Covenant, The Snowman, Dark Phoenix), and i'm not confident about Next Goal Wins either which is still undated. I hope he'll rebound with Fincher's The Killer in 2022.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 24, 2021 12:54:20 GMT
I'll add Jeremy Renner. He exploded on the scene with The Hurt Locker then The Town back to back roles that earned him 2 Oscar noms. And While I still remain a pretty big fan of his acting , lately it seems that Jeremy Renner is only playing Hawkeye. He even has a Hawkeye Disney + show coming out later this year. Blah I'm sure he's getting paid rather well (at least for his sake I hope he is) but he is too good of an actor to be still wasting his time with the MCU. After the rather disappointing Avengers: Endgame I pretty much lost all interest in that shit (totally burnt out from it).His last true really good performance was in Wind River. He was sensational in that. He has some show that is being filmed called Mayor of Kingstown but I read the premise and it doesn't sound all that interesting to me. But who knows it could be great. Then there is that Spawn reboot that he's been attached to for quite some time which doesn't sound promising either. Another than that , all he has lined up in some voice work. I know he's recently been in the celeb gossip news for all the wrong reasons (all that drama with his ex sounds really messy and sorta disturbing). And there is his music "career"...smh so bad. It’s Taylor Sheridan’s new show so I’m optimistic.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 24, 2021 15:08:16 GMT
Fassbender also has Taika's Next Goal Wins coming up. He'll back.
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Post by jakesully on Jul 24, 2021 22:30:18 GMT
I'll add Jeremy Renner. He exploded on the scene with The Hurt Locker then The Town back to back roles that earned him 2 Oscar noms. And While I still remain a pretty big fan of his acting , lately it seems that Jeremy Renner is only playing Hawkeye. He even has a Hawkeye Disney + show coming out later this year. Blah I'm sure he's getting paid rather well (at least for his sake I hope he is) but he is too good of an actor to be still wasting his time with the MCU. After the rather disappointing Avengers: Endgame I pretty much lost all interest in that shit (totally burnt out from it).His last true really good performance was in Wind River. He was sensational in that. He has some show that is being filmed called Mayor of Kingstown but I read the premise and it doesn't sound all that interesting to me. But who knows it could be great. Then there is that Spawn reboot that he's been attached to for quite some time which doesn't sound promising either. Another than that , all he has lined up in some voice work. I know he's recently been in the celeb gossip news for all the wrong reasons (all that drama with his ex sounds really messy and sorta disturbing). And there is his music "career"...smh so bad. It’s Taylor Sheridan’s new show so I’m optimistic. No shit?! Damn I wasn't aware of that at all. That makes me quite optimistic for it as well!
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Post by franklin on Aug 25, 2021 9:15:33 GMT
In the wake of this big Reminiscence flop:
Hugh Jackman after 2017 [49 years old] That year for him was a one two punch of big commercial successes like Logan and The Greatest Showman.
After that, flops after flops. I hope he rebounds a bit, at least on a critical level, with The Son next year.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Aug 25, 2021 13:09:52 GMT
Sean Penn around 2012-2015.
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Post by mhynson27 on Aug 25, 2021 14:38:14 GMT
In the wake of this big Reminiscence flop: Hugh Jackman after 2017 [49 years old] That year for him was a one two punch of big commercial successes like Logan and The Greatest Showman. After that, flops after flops. I hope he rebounds a bit, at least on a critical level, with The Son next year. Other than The Front Runner, all Hugh has done since 2017 is some voice work in a box office hit and a critically acclaimed award winner (2 separate films) and oh yeah, get nominated for an Emmy. Wouldn't exactly say he's had 'flops after flops'.
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 18:38:45 GMT
Winona Ryder in Boys, before that movie, she was the best new thing, after that was a long decline, with some highlights in between, she could have performance praised by some critics or by audiences like Stranger Things, but never was the actress that suppose to be in 1994.- But after 1996 she was never cast in a BIG ROLE FILM.- I think she is nowadays one of the most underated actresses. She isn't perfect, she try to defend her character more than just acting. She just need a director who could manage her, a great publicist agent and dictions classes and a speech therapist.- With a better agent-publicist, probably she would probably at least being an Emmy Nominee right now.-
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 18:43:37 GMT
Demi Moore and G.I. Jane/ The Scarlet Letter. GI Jane received better reviews and box office success. Not great reviews or a Box office Hit, but was a decent movie that could be seing as her swan sing as a movie star.- Her decline started with the Scarlet Letter and her career was later totally ruined by Streaptease, her main sin was to publicitated too much her average (for being kind) films of the latter 90s. Then she divorce, and lives in perpetually semiretirement after that.- the same thing happened around the same time with Sharon Stone after Casino, she try too hard to publicited average or definitive bad films.- Worse was Meg Ryan after the Russell Crowe movie, while Stone or Moore could play co-staring roles in staring roles for much elder and ugly male co-stars or as the villian in femine action chicks flicks, and special appareance on TV, but Ryan totally dessapeared. She try in the indie films without any success. She even sold her production company. Maybe her only hope is to catch the roles of Jack Quaid Mom.-
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 18:55:19 GMT
Kevin Costner after Westworld, well he had some flops like Wyatt Earp, but Westworld ruined his career. After that he has some thing that outperformed on Films or TV, but never was the big star that he become after Dance With Wolves. Probably one of the SHORTEST HUGE A STARS CAREERS.-
Mel Gibson after The Passion of Jesus Christ. To be fair, I guess he got tired of acting, his career despite a best direction nom for another movie several years later, and being part of succesful franchises never return to the star power he had in the 80s and 90s.-
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 19:00:34 GMT
Glenn Close after 101 and 102 Dalmatians, between those films she only made one top billing film that was a big flop. And after 102 Dalmatian she was never top billed again in a big budget film.- She had being busy on supporting and cameo roles in big budget films, but at least top billing on Indie films, Broadway and TV.-
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 19:07:49 GMT
Colin Farrell, well most of his top billed roles were big bombs on Box office. But after in Bruges, was maybe his last opportunitie of being a big star again (or for the first time) and he wasted on films like Fright Night or Winter's Tale or Total Recall. For I don't know why, he is continue being casting in co-leading roles in indie and prestigious films and supporting roles on big budget films.-
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Post by hugobolso on Aug 27, 2021 23:14:25 GMT
I can't believe no one mentioned yet the granddaddy of them all: Coppola after Apocalypse Now, which clearly burned him out. Not that he didn't made good movies after that, but he clearly was never the same again. No he decline when he met JLo in Jack, whose ego was bigger than all the Coppolas AND Brando together
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Post by beeblets on Aug 30, 2021 17:09:27 GMT
Jim Carrey 1998 with Truman Show. Had Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in 2004, but apart from that it's been a slow decline from mediocrity all the way to down right awful.
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Post by LaraQ on Aug 30, 2021 19:52:15 GMT
Dane DeHaan, after a nightmarish 2017 that included Tulip Fever,Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets and A Cure for Wellness.He was being positioned as Hollywood's new leading man,a baby Leo.Other than a Quibi mini series and a few other tv shows,his career is pretty much dead right now.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 17, 2024 19:59:38 GMT
I think this is always an interesting thing to discuss, and explore retrospectively. Russell Crowe - 2005/2007ish? Pretty much most people agree his run from 1999-2001 is some of the best stuff there is. But when Master and Commander came out, the movie was not acclaimed for his performance, moreso for his co-star Paul Bettany. Still, it wasn't an obvious slide imo until Cinderella Man/American Gangster which some people hoped would continue his great run. Cinderella Man was a movie that was predicted to be a main awards player, but when the reviews came out.... it was considered typical mawkish Oscar bait and nobody really cared about it, imo. ^ My personal pet punching bag - I always say he had THE biggest decline from a high peak at a younger age than ANYONE in film history- he wasn't even 40........his great run to me goes '91-'01........ Cinderella Man is the one that to me where it falls apart - I think A Beautiful Mind blows goats as a movie but it's a masterpiece compared to Cinderella Man ..........Crowe works really hard against what his director is doing in the first one ..........in Cinderella Man he's selling the exact same stuff his director is doing I haven’t seen Cinderella Man, but I’m curious if you think Crowe’s performance fails because he just doesn’t transcend the film he’s in (like he was able to do in A Beautiful Mind) and is merely uninteresting/pedestrian, or is it more that he’s flat-out unconvincing in the same way you think Giamatti is bad in the film (doing a poor Wallace Beery impression, as you say)? You say he's "selling the exact same stuff his director is doing" in Cinderella Man, but is it maybe a case of him being “trapped” by his director and the writing (more trapped than in A Beautiful Mind), or would you say there were definitely opportunities for Crowe to elevate the material through his acting choices?
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 17, 2024 20:31:45 GMT
^ My personal pet punching bag - I always say he had THE biggest decline from a high peak at a younger age than ANYONE in film history- he wasn't even 40........his great run to me goes '91-'01........ Cinderella Man is the one that to me where it falls apart - I think A Beautiful Mind blows goats as a movie but it's a masterpiece compared to Cinderella Man ..........Crowe works really hard against what his director is doing in the first one ..........in Cinderella Man he's selling the exact same stuff his director is doing I haven’t seen Cinderella Man, but I’m curious if you think Crowe’s performance fails because he just doesn’t transcend the film he’s in (like he was able to do in A Beautiful Mind) and is merely uninteresting/pedestrian, or is it more that he’s flat-out unconvincing in the same way you think Giamatti is bad in the film (doing a poor Wallace Beery impression, as you say)? You say he's "selling the exact same stuff his director is doing" in Cinderella Man, but is it maybe a case of him being “trapped” by his director and the writing (more trapped than in A Beautiful Mind), or would you say there were definitely opportunities for Crowe to elevate the material through his acting choices?Not convincing to me............ this formerly great actor is no longer catching any sparks here and has become what I call "an indicator" - he points you in a general emotional direction without providing internal life to it........ I actually think he started to slip before this too - he was 40 or so here (wtf) - but here it seemed what I was seeing was his desperation to get that 2nd Oscar back that he pissed away not exactly the character's desperation......... The closest I can think to compare it to is something like Tom Hanks in Road to Perdition where you maybe buy it to a certain degree but not to the degree that is necessary in the story to work as written so you (or "I") ignore the positive things in it and remember the negative.........like physically Crowe is fine ......that's something.......but it ends up feeling like nothing because there's not much internal life there..........I also remember not really buying him as an American here even.............. and that had never been an issue before
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