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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 26, 2021 9:41:10 GMT
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Post by franklin on Apr 26, 2021 9:58:13 GMT
From now on there's gonna be a huge backlash against McDormand from people and the film industry.
I think she'll even miss out a nomination for the upcoming Macbeth.
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Post by Miles Morales on Apr 26, 2021 9:59:18 GMT
From now on there's gonna be a huge backlash against McDormand from people and the film industry. In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win.
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Post by franklin on Apr 26, 2021 10:00:42 GMT
From now on there's gonna be a huge backlash against McDormand from people and the film industry. In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win. EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth.
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 26, 2021 10:12:18 GMT
5. The membership of the Academy is changing, and it shows. Yes, we had Green Book but it was a one-off. Why are you ridiculing Green Book here? It was my favorite film of 2018. More over, the film is not racist or insensitive. Not sure why you bring this up as a "mistake".
As for the leading actor roles, it didn't shock me that Hopkins or McDormand won. Their performances were in films nominated for Best Picture.
My only takeaway is that the BAFTAs and Oscars lined up perfectly. That was a something groundbreaking.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 26, 2021 10:20:01 GMT
The extended eligibility TOTALLY helped Hopkins to win today.
He was very lucky he built his narrative in the last month.
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Post by franklin on Apr 26, 2021 10:21:46 GMT
The extended eligibility TOTALLY helped Hopkins to win today. He was very lucky he built his narrative in the last month. McDormand too.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 26, 2021 10:23:44 GMT
Still baffled by how this was put together. How do you fuck it up this badly?? Like if you blink, you could miss a name...
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 10:33:07 GMT
In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win. EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth. If the Academy gave a shit about people complaining on Twitter, Green Book would never have won Best Picture. Casey Affleck wouldn't have won for Manchester By The Sea and Rami Malek wouldn't have won for Bohemian Rhapsody.The Academy like what they like. McDormand is a part of the club, and this 3rd win just makes her an even more important member of the club. The Tragedy Of Macbeth probably becomes an even hotter ticket with AMPAS after this. I know some people here are banking (or hoping ) on the Rudin connection to sink the project's award hopesl, but A24 acted swiftly to take him off the project, and therefore minimise the PR liablity he would bring to the project. Rudin won't be able to win an Oscar for this, and his involvement will be played down and minimised. That just leaves the combined starpower and respect of Joel Coen, Denzel and McDormand to be the face of this movie. These are heavy hitters with AMPAS. If the film lives up to expectations in terms of reviews, it could potentially be pretty big with the Oscars .It would be pretty hard for McDormand to win a 4th again so quickly, but I feel she probably only has to be decent to get a nomination for The Tragedy Of Macbeth.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 26, 2021 10:37:14 GMT
From now on there's gonna be a huge backlash against McDormand from people and the film industry. I think she'll even miss out a nomination for the upcoming Macbeth. Hell no! She's one of the most respected and adulated actresses in the industry and rightfully so. As the matter of fact, I could totally see her winning a 4th Oscar for Macbeth now 😁
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 10:43:19 GMT
From now on there's gonna be a huge backlash against McDormand from people and the film industry. I think she'll even miss out a nomination for the upcoming Macbeth. Hell no! She's one of the most respected and adulated actresses in the industry and rightfully so. As the matter of fact, I could totally see her winning a 4th Oscar for Macbeth.😁 Like I said, I expected McDormand to probably be the early frontrunner for The Tragedy Of Macbeth had she lost for Nomadland. As it is, Denzel is probably the biggest beneficiary of that movie with McDormand getting her third this season, as he will probably now be seen as more of a realistic campaign priority to win, as Frances just bagged another.
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Post by Miles Morales on Apr 26, 2021 10:48:21 GMT
In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win. EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth. Lmao, Twitter - the same site currently complaining about Anthony Hopkins' win and were completely up in arms about Promising Young Woman winning anything. A few complainers on Twitter won't do jack shit to McDormand's respect and reputation in the industry - this isn't Green Book winning BP or Boremian Crapsody taking the majority wins of the night, where the criticism was widespread and valid and Academy took notice; Frances gave a legitimately great performance and got rewarded for it.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 26, 2021 10:48:39 GMT
In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win. EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth. Fuck Twitter! I mean yes, I wanted both Chadwick(especially him since it was his one and only shot) and Carey to win but let's not pretend that Anthony and Frances were not worthy! And so what if they are veterans who had already won before? That should not be a reason for never awarding them again.
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Post by wilcinema on Apr 26, 2021 10:50:53 GMT
Frances is not going to win three acting Oscars within 5 years, stop it. Even she's annoyed at all the awards she gets lol, remember what she said about awarding new blood?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 26, 2021 10:52:36 GMT
À true class act. However, I have the feeling that he's feeling awkward that the Academy chose him instead of Chadwick. He definitely shouldn't. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 10:56:36 GMT
In your dreams. No one's complaining about her win. EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth. franklin - You're looking at that all wrong tbh: IF she gets an Oscar nominations for Macbeth - to me, it may actually be a bigger deal than her 3rd win in a way: ..............and that applies to her co-star even more: No one ever gets nominated for Shakespeare - just 10 people ever (3 females) I think - and FOUR of them are Olivier . I have often said Denzel Washington - as good as he is - and how can I say this in a nice, pacinoyes, non-argument starting way: is in no fncking way one of the "10 best" American film actors of all time right now................... but if he gets an Oscar nomination for Macbeth or wins it's a huge, huge deal and would likely put him in that very elite class...... What is less clear is why anyone would actually be predicting McDormand or Washington in the first place. If either - or both - of them gets nodded - that IS acting history.......... IF Frances McDormand (and Denzel Washington) DON"T get nominated - for a Scott Rudin film btw ......... that would be ....................absolutely expected.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 11:07:14 GMT
EVERYONE is complaining about it on Twitter. As I said, I don't even think she'll get a nomination for Macbeth. franklin - You're looking at that all wrong tbh: IF she gets an Oscar nominations for Macbeth - to me, it may actually be a bigger deal than her 3rd win in a way: ..............and that applies to her co-star even more: No one ever gets nominated for Shakespeare - just 10 people ever (3 females) I think - and FOUR of them are Olivier . I have often said Denzel Washington - as good as he is - and how can I say this in a nice, pacinoyes, non-argument starting way: is in no fncking way one of the "10 best" American film actors of all time right now................... but if he gets an Oscar nomination for Macbeth or wins it's a huge, huge deal and would likely put him in that very elite class...... What is less clear is why anyone would actually be predicting McDormand or Washington in the first place. If either - or both - of them gets nodded - that IS acting history.......... IF Frances McDormand (and Denzel Washington) DON"T get nominated - for a Scott Rudin film btw ......... that would be ....................absolutely expected.
Your being extremely weird about this (yeah I know hoping against Denzel is your thing, but you were starting to seem a bit more accepting of reality. Now it looks like you are back to square one. Shame). But I guess we know what your schtick will be for the next Oscar season As I said, A24 has officially taken Rudin off The Tragedy Of Macbeth. The Academy isn't going to punish people they love like Denzel, Frances and Joel for a movie that Rudin has been taken off and won't be able to win an Oscar for. I think you will need a new angle to take down this film than relying on a severed connection to Rudin, imho. If reviews are great, it likely will be an AMPAS juggernaut.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 11:18:15 GMT
franklin - You're looking at that all wrong tbh: IF she gets an Oscar nominations for Macbeth - to me, it may actually be a bigger deal than her 3rd win in a way: ..............and that applies to her co-star even more: No one ever gets nominated for Shakespeare - just 10 people ever (3 females) I think - and FOUR of them are Olivier . I have often said Denzel Washington - as good as he is - and how can I say this in a nice, pacinoyes, non-argument starting way: is in no fncking way one of the "10 best" American film actors of all time right now................... but if he gets an Oscar nomination for Macbeth or wins it's a huge, huge deal and would likely put him in that very elite class...... What is less clear is why anyone would actually be predicting McDormand or Washington in the first place. If either - or both - of them gets nodded - that IS acting history.......... IF Frances McDormand (and Denzel Washington) DON"T get nominated - for a Scott Rudin film btw ......... that would be ....................absolutely expected.
But I guess we know what your schtick will be for the next Oscar season Last time I saw you on here you were running and hiding from Good God and his question (below, in bold). .......stop picking fights. You think he's the best........I think he's somewhere between 11-20 atm. That's it...........end it already. Still waiting for answers to a few questions:
1. Why does Washington have 0 BAFTA nominations when Poitier has 6? 2. Why has Washington never even managed a London critics nomination?
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Post by wilcinema on Apr 26, 2021 11:20:50 GMT
Denzel as Macbeth in a Coens movie is always bound to get in, unless it's a complete disaster. I mean, if he got in for Roman J. Israel Esq., a movie and a performance I thoroughly detested, I don't see how he can miss with this And Lady Macbeth is the kind of character that someone like Frances will be nominated for, but she's not winning again.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 11:33:59 GMT
Denzel as Macbeth in a Coens movie is always bound to get in, unless it's a complete disaster. I mean, if he got in for Roman J. Israel Esq., a movie and a performance I thoroughly detested, I don't see how he can miss with this And Lady Macbeth is the kind of character that someone like Frances will be nominated for, but she's not winning again. I do see this logic but it is a little trickier I think - and I too disliked Roman J Israel - though I think the performance is ok (not nodworthy). I would say though that 2021 is likely to be stacked, Macbeth doesn't lend itself to nominations really - even in great versions like Polanski's (0 nods ever for that piece), Coen has never directed this material or in this way before, he is without his brother - and this is a faithful to the text version which is potentially good and bad. What is actually interesting about that project is it was initiated by McDormand based on her stage work in a recent adaptation which suggests she is a co-lead not a Supporting role - which may be quite harder to pull off. Husbands directing their wives in adaptations where they gear it more towards them than normal (ie Mendes directing Winslet in Revolutionary Road) - often goes a bit haywire from expectations. I've already said my main fear is they are way old for those parts - the oldest Macbeth couple ever......... .......we'll see though, it's one of my most anticipated of the year without question......
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Post by wilcinema on Apr 26, 2021 11:42:28 GMT
Denzel as Macbeth in a Coens movie is always bound to get in, unless it's a complete disaster. I mean, if he got in for Roman J. Israel Esq., a movie and a performance I thoroughly detested, I don't see how he can miss with this And Lady Macbeth is the kind of character that someone like Frances will be nominated for, but she's not winning again. I do see this logic but it is a little trickier I think - and I too disliked Roman J Israel - though I think the performance is ok (not nodworthy). I would say though that 2021 is likely to be stacked, Macbeth doesn't lend itself to nominations really - even in great versions like Polanski's (0 nods ever for that piece), Coen has never directed this material or in this way before, he is without his brother - and this is a faithful to the text version which is potentially good and bad. What is actually interesting about that project is it was initiated by McDormand based on her stage work in a recent adaptation which suggests she is a co-lead not a Supporting role - which may be quite harder to pull off. Husbands directing their wives in adaptations where they gear it more towards them than normal (ie Mendes directing Winslet in Revolutionary Road) - often goes a bit haywire from expectations. I've already said my main fear is they are way old for those parts - the oldest Macbeth couple ever......... .......we'll see though, it's one of my most anticipated of the year without question...... I really, really want it to succeed precisely because it would partly be against the odds. I'm not a big fan of Denzel, but I want an acclaimed, revered actor like him to win for a role like Macbeth, the kind of role that scares the shit out of an actor because even just the name of it spells trouble. It's one of my most anticipated too because I really want to see what they did with it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 11:44:08 GMT
But I guess we know what your schtick will be for the next Oscar season Last time I saw you on here you were running and hiding from Good God and his question (below, in bold). .......stop picking fights. You think he's the best........I think he's somewhere between 11-20 atm. That's it...........end it already. Still waiting for answers to a few questions:
1. Why does Washington have 0 BAFTA nominations when Poitier has 6? 2. Why has Washington never even managed a London critics nomination?
This isn't about where you rank Denzel. That's pretty irrelevant to me. It's about the cynicism of you already campainging hard against The Tragedy Of Macbeth with the Rudin thing (boy you took that oppurtunity and ran with it ), even though A24 has a already removed him from the picture. It's just odd you banging on about it like it's a dealbreaker/killer for the movie's chances, but you are going to do you, so whatever. You could be a bit more subtle in your approach, is all. You used to be more clever about this kind of stuff. Now it's very bull in a china shop. And I don't owe Good God a damned thing,and he can answer his own damned questions. But nice try to call back-up
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Post by bob-coppola on Apr 26, 2021 11:56:22 GMT
Actually, I think being on Netflix helped them. Those three movies would've tanked at the BO in a normal year/with a regular distribution, but being on Netflix saved them from being labeled as flops. But on Mank's case, no one but Netflix would've allowed it to be made the way it was anyways, so... Mank and Ma Rainey would've been flops but I think Trial of the Chicago 7, with the right marketing, could have seen decent box office success. It's very crowd-pleasing, in the same ballpark as Green Book. It was way more acessible, but still a courtroom drama. How do you even sell those these days?
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Post by bob-coppola on Apr 26, 2021 12:03:27 GMT
C'mon, it's naivety to think the Rudin scandal is gonna splash on McDormand and Washington of all people. His production credit was already removed and, even if he was a big part of it, everyone can just pretend he just bought sandwiches for the crew one day or something. And even if it comes up, many Rudin movies will be contenders.
By the way, I must follow the right people on Twitter, 'cause everyone who was live-tweeting the Oscar was happy over Hopkins and McDormand - especially McDormand. I don't think there's a backlash incoming, McDormand is like the cool, hippy aunt every Twitter kid would love to have.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 26, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
Last time I saw you on here you were running and hiding from Good God and his question (below, in bold). .......stop picking fights. You think he's the best........I think he's somewhere between 11-20 atm. That's it...........end it already. Still waiting for answers to a few questions:
1. Why does Washington have 0 BAFTA nominations when Poitier has 6? 2. Why has Washington never even managed a London critics nomination?
This isn't about where you rank Denzel. That's pretty irrelevant to me. It's about the cynicism of you already campainging hard against The Tragedy Of Macbeth with the Rudin thing (boy you took that oppurtunity and ran with it ), even though A24 has a already removed him from the picture. It's just odd you banging on about it like it's a dealbreaker/killer for the movie's chances, but you are going to do you, so whatever. You could be a bit more subtle in your approach, is all. You used to be more clever about this kind of stuff. Now it's very bull in a china shop. And I don't owe Good God a damned thing,and he can answer his own damned questions. But nice try to call back-up You know he's hoping the Rudin ordeal derails The Tragedy of MacBeth. Next up: Hoping the reviews are bad.
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