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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 23, 2024 20:11:23 GMT
Guess I'll post this in this thread. Inverse did an interview with Oscar winning screenwriter/filmmaker Brian Helgeland (L.A. Confidential, A Knight's Tale, Mystic River, 42) for Man on Fire's 20th anniversary along with some of his other work. Great interview on working with Denzel on Man on Fire, but I thought the most interesting quote from him in this interview were his thoughts on Tony and Ridley Scott since he collaborated with both of them on projects: Every few months, I think about the landscape of cinema and how much Tony Scott is missed as a director. What did you learn from working with him so closely?
He was the hardest-working and most committed director I’ve ever worked with. In the morning, he’d stand up on a platform and talk to the whole crew. He was like a general leading an army into battle, running through what the crew were doing for the day. Tony always talked about process, but he’d simply say, “I make movies about what people do for a living. That’s all I do.” He described Top Gun to me as a movie that’s just about showing audiences what fighter pilots do for a living! His levels of passion, dedication and commitment were on another level. When he finished Man on Fire, there was no stone left unturned. Ridley [Scott] is an incredible filmmaker, too, but Tony is the better director because he truly understands human emotion. I’m allowed to say that after working with both of them. Sorry, Ridley! Thought that was interesting opinion of him. Of course history is going to look back at Ridley as the great filmmaker of the brothers, but its interesting to see a reexamination of Tony Scott's filmmaking legacy from prominent artists in the industry like Christopher Nolan, Quentin Tarantino, and now Brian Helgeland. Link to the full interview: www.inverse.com/entertainment/man-on-fire-anniversary-20-years-interview-brian-helgeland-knights-tale-sequelGreat interview with Brian Helgeland. Yeah, it really nice that Tony Scott's legacy has been strengthened as much as it has. Shame he didn't live to see how much respectability he now has. There was a video doing the rounds on social media a few days ago with Tony saying he'd never be looked at for an Oscar. Would you say he's the great action filmmaker of his generation? Or John Woo? James Cameron is a generation after him.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 23, 2024 20:13:51 GMT
Also, a lot of stuff today celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the release of Man On Fire.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 23, 2024 20:20:14 GMT
Great interview with Brian Helgeland. Yeah, it really nice that Tony Scott's legacy has been strengthened as much as it has. Shame he didn't live to see how much respectability he now has. There was a video doing the rounds on social media a few days ago with Tony saying he'd never be looked at for an Oscar. Would you say he's the great action filmmaker of his generation? Or John Woo? James Cameron is a generation after him. That's a tough one. Both Woo and Tony Scott influenced a shitload of action directors that followed them. I'll have to go with Tony though, because I think at his best, he married style and substance in a way I don't think Woo ever quite did as strongly (style wise, Woo was ground-breaking though). Tony managed to inject a lot of depth and thematic intelligence into some of his best his action films like Crimson Tide, Man On Fire, Deja Vu etc.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 24, 2024 4:04:54 GMT
More good stuff from the Man On Fire anniversary.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 30, 2024 22:34:46 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on May 27, 2024 6:04:48 GMT
One of the main Spanish daily newspapers El Pais has just printed an article with the headline, How Denzel Washington became the most respected actor in the industry.
That he's randomly getting this type of press in Spain makes me think he might be up for the Goya Lifetime Achievement Award or something of that nature soon.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 27, 2024 21:17:03 GMT
Article is doing the rounds in Latin America. The Mexico edition.
A English translated version of the article below.
How Denzel Washington became the most respected actor in the industry
The actor is about to reach 70 doing what he likes most, alternating action projects with brainy movies, and without doing anything he doesn't like: behaving like a star.
EVA GUIMIL
MAY 27, 2024 - 04:30 WEST 17
After Will Smith's painful incident at the 2022 Oscars , Denzel Washington (New York, 69 years old) was his first support. “In your greatest victories, be careful, that's when the devil comes for you,” he told her backstage. Smith told it that same day because he knew that if Washington forgave his attitude, Hollywood would forgive him too. The protagonist of Malcom ”. Although in the beginning he was inevitably compared to Sidney Poitier , he is aware that he has already surpassed his idol. “He's our Brando, he's Nicholson, he's Olivier,” enthused Tom Hanks. His long list of awards, which includes two Oscars, a Tony, two Golden Globes, the Cecil B. DeMille Award, the AFI Life Achievement Award and two Emmy nominations, makes it clear that Hanks' words are not an exaggeration.
The overwhelming confidence with which he manages his career is clear when seeing his last two works: The Tragedy of Macbeth and the third part of The Equalizer , Antoine Fuqua's adrenaline saga that recently arrived in Spain on Movistar+. Washington can combine Shakespeare and the vigilante Robert McCall, one of the favorite heroes of what has been called " father's cinema " and his career does not suffer: he has achieved an a priori very difficult balance between the Oscar actors and the stars of action, perhaps because in his ability to give himself over to the most unprejudiced cinema there is more to explore new interpretive territories than to fatten his pocket.
If his desire were mere profit, we would have seen him in the abundant superhero sagas and the sequels and prequels to past hits, Hollywood's favorite genre, but he is clear that he does not want to be part of a cast of familiar faces for greater glory. from the box office. He wants to be the absolute star. “My career is based on saying no.” Be careful, he doesn't say “no” to everything: he will be part of the long-awaited second part of Gladiator in which, according to what its director Ridley Scott has leaked, he will play a former slave turned into a very powerful man.
The one who according to The New York Times is the best actor of the 21st century could have had a very different life without his mother's intervention. Washington grew up in Mount Vernon, a suburb of New York. His parents, a preacher and a hairdresser, divorced when he was 14 and the teenager Denzel was left to care for his mother. When she detected that her son was more in bad company than in the classroom, she sent him to a strict military academy. A gesture that he considers decisive in his career. ”Two of those friends served time in prison and the other lost his teeth. That was a few years ago. "I got him some good teeth, but I haven't seen him much lately," he told The Times .
Today, Washington, the former bad boy, has an elementary school in New York named after him and has helped launch the careers of others who were in his situation, such as the lamented protagonist of Black Panther , Chadwick Boseman . In the nineties, a group of young black people, including the future Marvel star, were trying to get into a prestigious Oxford summer program and The Bill Cosby Show actress, Phylicia Rashad, “lobbied” for them. “She basically got some famous friends to pay so we could go,” Boseman revealed to Rolling Stone . Among those actors was Denzel Washington, who didn't know it until Boseman was already a star.
The military academy brought with it summer camps in which acting classes were taught and finally theater, a passion that he still maintains. But it was not an easy path. At the American Conservatory he met actor Delroy Lindo ( The Good Fight ). “We didn't have much money. We had bread, a few liters of milk, peanut butter and a jar of honey, and we lived on that for a week,” he also recounted in The Times . And then television arrived.
Thanks to St Elsewhere (1982-1988), the first series from the future makers of Doctor in Alaska , he became the most desired doctor on television. It is the only series in a career that did not take long to be meteoric. In Shout Freedom (1987), a product tailored to Kevin Kline, it was he who earned an Oscar nomination for playing anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko. He won the statuette the second time around, thanks to the young soldier in The Glory Times (1989) , and everyone assumed that his performance as Malcom But Pacino came across the weak (not to say laughable) Scent of a Woman and Hollywood felt it had to settle a historic debt.
For many it is one of the great thefts in Oscar history. Not for him, who admits having voted for Al Pacino. He, too, did not see in it the racism that has always been attributed to the Academy. “For him it was his seventh candidacy, I had already won one. So Al Pacino hadn't won anything because he was Italian-American? If I had been nominated seven times and had not been given an Oscar, someone would have said it was him because he was black. There are prejudices and racism in Hollywood, but as in all types of jobs. You have to be very careful with all this and never use racism as an excuse,” he told EL PAÍS when he presented Asalto al tren Pelham 123 in Madrid (2009). He didn't take it so well when years later the statuette for which he was a favorite for Fences ended up in the hands of Casey Affleck .
Washington has never allowed race to determine the roles he plays . The backbone of his career was not intended for “black men.” Julia Roberts lobbied for her to become her partner in The Pelican Brief (1993), Alan J. Pakula's political thriller. According to rumors, against the will of John Grisham, author of the novel. When Washington finally took over the role of her, she motu proprio deleted the sensual sequences between her character and Roberts' character. “Of course she wanted to kiss Denzel. “It was her idea to eliminate the damn scenes,” said the actress.
The actor did not want to offend what he considered his target audience. "Black women are not typically seen as objects of desire in movies and have always been my primary audience," he told Newsweek . Since then it has been rare to see him involved in interracial relationships on screen and he is not known for filming risqué scenes. Only in The Flight , where he played a pilot with addiction problems, did we get to see some of his anatomy. He is part of a fairly short list of actors who limit intimate contact to their real partners. Washington met his wife Pauletta de Ella before he was famous and married her in 1983. They have four children, all linked to acting. The most famous of these is John David Washington , star of Christopher Nolan's Tenet (which Washington has confessed to not having understood). They are a united family far from the headlines and one of the few long-standing couples that remain in Hollywood.
Nor was it written that a black man would play Tom Hanks' lawyer in Philadelphia (1993). The producers were looking for a popular comedian, a Robin Williams or a Bill Murray who would be familiar and “likeable” to viewers. But during a flight he ran into Jonathan Demme's co-producer, Edward Saxon, who was working on the script at the time. The actor asked him to let him take a look at what he was reading and knew that it must be Joe Miller, the lawyer who goes from homophobic to close friend of the main character.
Demme was not convinced: including Washington as the protagonist implied that a film intended for the general public would star a homosexual and a member of a racial minority (or two, since Antonio Banderas was also there), but that meant saying no to one of them. the big stars of Hollywood. He argued that Miller's character had to be funny. “I said, 'There's a big problem... it's meant for an actor with a gift for comedy,'” the late Demme recalled. And Washington responded: “I can be funny.” There was nothing more to say.
“Choosing Washington as the protagonist guaranteed the film a black audience that otherwise would not have had much interest in the problems of a rich white homosexual with AIDS,” stated Sight & Sound . He was already officially on the A list and had hits like Red Tide (1995), The Bone Collector (1999, one of those thrillers born in the shadow of Seven in which he shared the screen, but not even a chaste kiss, with Angelina Jolie) and Hurricane Carter (1999), which earned him a new Oscar nomination, corroborated his status.
And then came Training Day (2001). His first collaboration with Fuqua allowed him to definitively distance himself from his idol Poitier, because the protagonist of The Lilies of the Valley could never allow himself to play amoral characters because then “black people were not even considered fully human.” He was to be an immaculate representative of the black man, without blemish. Fortunately, times changed and Washington was able to play the corrupt detective Alonzo Harris, one of the great characters of his career and the one who, paradoxically, allowed him to equal Poitier as the second black actor to win the Oscar in the main category.
As he has revealed, he improvised most of the role. For his co-star, Ethan Hawke , that shoot was the best acting school. “It was like playing with Miles Davis or playing baseball with Babe Ruth,” he declared. “Denzel changed my life. Being 30 years old and starting to work with one of the all-time greats? I've never seen anyone be a better storyteller. He knows what the audience thinks. “He knows how to surprise.”
The 2000s were when he became an action hero, either at the hands of Fuqua or Tony Scott , whom he still mourns. With him he filmed thrillers as fascinating as Fire of Vengeance (2004) or Unstoppable (2010). He also had time to work again with Jonathan Demme in the underrated version of The Messenger of Fear (2004), where he shared the screen with Meryl Streep.
Streep was fascinated by the actor's versatility and dedication, something common to all his filming partners. However, everyone emphasizes that her relationship is limited to work. "I didn't try to be friends with her, go to a Lakers game, or go to birthday parties," Hawke says. Washington highly values privacy and does not participate in the Hollywood game or expose his life on social media. “If they see you for free all week, they won't pay to see you on the weekend,” she says. “I don't tweet. I do not have instagram".
About to turn 70, he claims to be in his acting autumn and wants to dedicate it to working with the best. When Paul Thomas Anderson declared that he was one of his favorite actors, he called him out. “I went to his house,” he confessed to The Times , “I want to be with the best filmmakers, because I'm not going to make many more films, I know that. That's why I want to work with the best." He has already worked with Joel Coen and has also contacted Alfonso Cuarón and Steve McQueen. “I want to work with the greats.” He may feel that his career is coming to an end, but that does not mean that he is in decline.
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Post by sirchuck23 on May 27, 2024 23:57:48 GMT
That’s a great article. Denzel seems to be very respected in Spain. The San Sebastián Film Festival had The Equalizer as its opening night film back in 2014 just so they could give him the Donostia Lifetime Achievement award.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 28, 2024 0:08:39 GMT
That’s a great article. Denzel seems to be very respected in Spain. The San Sebastián Film Festival had The Equalizer as its opening night film back in 2014 just so they could give him the Donostia Lifetime Achievement award. I believe Cate Blanchett is getting the Donistia award this year. So if he's getting a lifetime achievement award in Spain this year, my guess would be the Goyas, which is much bigger the the San Sebastian/Donistia,as the Goyas is the Spanish Oscars.
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Post by Joaquim on May 28, 2024 1:20:44 GMT
You really couldn’t spoiler tag that wall of text?
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Post by pupdurcs on May 28, 2024 5:01:10 GMT
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Post by fiosnasiob on May 30, 2024 19:22:39 GMT
One of the main Spanish daily newspapers El Pais has just printed an article with the headline, How Denzel Washington became the most respected actor in the industry.That he's randomly getting this type of press in Spain makes me think he might be up for the Goya Lifetime Achievement Award or something of that nature soon. That was a good read, in Spanish por supuesto ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6692321/images/cA8ED42py2XIGMrRQ1mH.gif) It would be nice if Denzel could show off some of his Spanish language skills again in a GOYA or whatever ceremony, it's kind of amazing all the full scenes he had to do in Spanish in Man On Fire with (all excellents) Mexican actors, Mario Zaragoza, Carmen Salinas and the poor Norma Pablo in her acting debut against Denzel in a total fury mode. I like the Philadephia part and the task Denzel had to accomplish, without him, that movie would have been a depressing courtroom drama about a dying gay man discriminated against for having AIDs, with him, it's still all of that but so much more, he balances, lighten up the whole thing and of course brings the dramatic acting chops when needed. Hawke is goddamm right, I could watch Denzel in Alonzo's skin sitting in that 1979 Chevy Monte Carlo for hours just to listen all the stories about Spooky, Too-Fine, C.J., Big Smoke, etc...
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 11, 2024 22:35:11 GMT
Hmm....I think UFC Welterweight Champion Leon Edwards might just be a fan of Denzel Washington .Shocked he didn't know who Daniel Day-Lewis was though
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 9, 2024 13:46:39 GMT
Denzel in Gladiator II
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Post by stephen on Jul 9, 2024 13:49:39 GMT
The trailer really was Washington-heavy, which is smart because he is still a reliable box-office draw. And he looks like he is having so much fucking fun in it. Hell, everyone looks like they're having the time of their life. Hechinger and Quinn are absolutely bananas.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 9, 2024 14:09:52 GMT
The trailer really was Washington-heavy, which is smart because he is still a reliable box-office draw. And he looks like he is having so much fucking fun in it. Hell, everyone looks like they're having the time of their life. Hechinger and Quinn are absolutely bananas. Denzel's the X-Factor in this movie, in order to ensure success, even though he's (rarely for him) not playing the lead. It kind of reminds me how Marlon Brando was cast in certain projects in the 1970's ( Superman, Apocalypse Now) paid the most money of the cast and his presence heavily promoted, though he was a supporting role. Though I don't see him relegated to supporting roles going forward like Brando was ( mainly because Brando's weight wasn't conducive to remaining a leading man) Denzel has that kind of clout and credibility that Brando got back with audiences in the 70's after The Godfather.
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Post by franklin on Jul 9, 2024 14:23:34 GMT
I don't know, this year he's turning 70.
You can't be a movie star forever.
And in the trailer he looked like he was playing himself, but in the Roman Empire.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 9, 2024 14:26:34 GMT
I don't know, this year he's turning 70. You can't be a movie star forever. And in the trailer he looked like he was playing himself, but in the Roman Empire. If you say so.
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Post by stephen on Jul 9, 2024 14:27:54 GMT
Meanwhile, Denzel has booked his next film: ![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/The-man-who-laughs-movie-poster-1928.jpg)
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